Our experience with filing form I-751, Petition to Remove the Conditions of Residence, or another fun jaunt through bureaucracy

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Note: Let me apologize up front for writing a post that’s only tangentially related finance. Such posts won’t be frequent; however, we just finished a fairly involved bureaucratic process with the USCIS, and one for which not much help was available, so I wanted to share what we went through in the hopes that others out there in similar situations might find it helpful.

My husband (a Spanish citizen) and I (a US citizen) married in 2003 and in 2004 went through the (commonly known as getting a green card). Anyone who’s gone through the fun of filing papers with the (new name for the INS) can imagine that that in and of itself was a barrel of fun. (If you haven’t, consider yourself lucky. Just imagine the DMV on steroids.) We were living in Beligum at the time of filing, and ironically, it actually took us a mere 4 weeks for the USCIS to process and approve our application from there, much less than the 6 months or 1 year that it would have taken had we been living in the US at the time and had filed from here. Apparently, the are really behind.

US laws state that if you’re married for less than two years when you file for permanent resident status, you will , assuming you’re approved. In order to remove the two-year condition and receive a “regular” green card, it’s up to you to file form I-751 within the 90 day period before the second anniversary of your entry as a permanent resident into the US. (That’s straightforward, right? Don’t you love bureaucracy?) For example, suppose my husband entered the US on June 15, 2004. Then we would be required to file , sometime between March 15 and June 15, 2006, or risk deportation.

The 2-year conditional resident status and complicated filing deadline are just ways the government uses to prevent immigrants from entering the country under false pretenses and marriages of convenience. Of course, whether or not it works, plus the debate over how paperwork can prove that your marriage is “real” are things we won’t get into right here. It’s an imperfect solution for an imperfect world.

If you’ve read this far, the main reason for this post is that the instructions for form I-751 are very vague. Other than the application form and a few typical requirements, and the requisite $205 processing fee (!!), the USCIS suggests you send in “supporting documents providing evidence of the relationship” as part of your application. They recommend birth certificates of any children born into the marriage, lease and mortgage contracts, financial records, and “other documents”. Interesting how evidence of financial commitment serves as a practical proxy for proof of emotional or marital commitment.

The USCIS also requires you submit from people who have known you since your conditional permanent residency status was granted attesting to your relationship, meaning they write letters addressed to the USCIS that are signed and sworn in front of a (in the US) about how in love you are, when and how they’ve seen you together as a happily married couple, etc. Needless to say, as someone who values my privacy, this was really a really awkward request for me to make of friends and family.

We weren’t sure what other documents to include with our application, and the few resources on this subject on the Internet were were agencies willing to charge money for advice. We hadn’t had any children yet, and most of the bills and accounts were only under one of our names simply because we’d been too lazy to file for joint bank accounts and add both our names to the utilities. (We really should have looked at what was required in the I-751 form far ahead of time and prepared.)

Luckily, we also had a friend who had just gone through the I-751 filing process. Upon filing, he and his wife had actually filed and then received notice from the that they needed to send in more documents showing evidence of their relationship before their petition was approved. His advice was just to simply overwhelm them with paperwork, include as many affidavits as possible, and send photographs as well. Beat the bureaucrats at their own game, so to speak.

So, I spent several weeks calling our old auto and renter’s insurers, previous apartment complexes and utility companies in an attempt to get written proof that we had been living at the same address, mostly because I’d opted to go paperless and use e-billing options instead of receiving paper bills on most of our utilities.

We certainly don’t have the most complicated relationship to prove, but we were still surprised to receive our approval only two months after submitting our application. This was especially unexpected given that we had received a notice of receipt that included an automatic 1-year extension to my husband’s permanent resident status simply because the USCIS was so behind in processing.

And so, here’s the list of the documents we filed. I’m in no way claiming that if you file these things your petition will get approved (or even receive expedited processing), but if you’re just wondering, as we did, about what in the world we ought to submit, below are some ideas. Some people also include a letter addressed to the USCIS, but it’s not required, and we didn’t.

    List of documents submitted:

  1. A list detailing each of the documents submitted (more specific and detailed than this one)
  2. Additional addresses page (required if you’ve lived at more than one address during your residency)
  3. Two 2”x2” passport photos
  4. Copy of Permanent Residence Card (front and back required)
  5. Sworn affidavit from my father
  6. Sworn affidavit from friends who’ve known us (2)
  7. Sworn affidavit from my mother and stepfather
  8. Photographs of ourselves taken on trips and events during the conditional residency period (we submitted 30 prints from digital shots using service)
  9. Air way bill and receipt for move to the US
  10. Certificate of group health coverage
  11. Residency verification or copies of leases from apartment complexes (we’d lived in two complexes during this time and submitted both)
  12. Puppy guarantee from breeder showing both our names
  13. State vehicle certificates of title for each car
  14. State Vehicle Registrations for each car
  15. Flight itinerary from Orbitz for trips taken
  16. Any IRA or other beneficiary forms showing spouse as beneficiary
  17. Copy health insurance cards
  18. Letter from apartment complexes showing renewal options
  19. Renter’s insurance policies at each address
  20. Energy bill showing letter of credit and service period (they couldn’t send us back copies of our bills since we were on e-bill)
  21. Copy of credit cards showing our names using the same number
  22. COBRA coverage documents
  23. Copies of current and previous auto insurance for each car and at each address
  24. Phone bills/phone service confirmation at each address showing both our names
  25. Copy of lease on the house we’re currently renting
  26. Current and previous water bills showing both our names
  27. Purchase contract for car showing both names (if applicable)
  28. Joint bank account statements
  29. Federal tax returns filed for each year
  30. State tax returns filed for each year

There you have it. Pretty much anything that has both your names on it and shows you lived at the same address that covers any part of the period of time in question. Fill out the required forms, gather the documents, package it up, and send it by some sort of method where you’re sure to receive proof that you’ve sent in the forms and that they’ve received them. (Within the US, USPS’s Overnight Guaranteed is a good service to use because you must send to a PO Box.)

Although we’d like to never have to go through such a process again, we have to say that things are still less bureaucratic here than in Europe. Having lived Brussels, that continent’s political and bureaucratic capital, we have very little to complain about in comparison to some of the things we went through there!

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Flexo

What an ordeal. I’m glad they approved your application quickly after everything was delivered.



Ricemutt

Thanks. But just imagine, the US is one of the better places in the world where bureaucracy’s concerned!



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sameboat

How long did it take to get ur receipt? We have filed – @4 weeks now but we haven’t received receipt with 1 year extension. I have proof that they have received my application.



Ricemutt

It didn’t take us very long — sent 4/15 by USPS express mail, and the I-797C is dated 4/17, so as I recall, we received the receipt in our mailbox a week or two after we submitted the packet. (The notice has the extension statement on it.)

We submitted to the Laguna Niguel office. If you’re worried, I’d try calling the USCIS. I’ve actually spoken to a real person there and received some helpful information, surprisingly enough.



Katie

I submitted mine on 11/21, was received on 11/24 and the check was cashed on 11/28. Still no receipt though:( and the receipt number I got from the 800 number people does not work online nor when calling them back.



Ricemutt

It’s possible things are just really slow given the Christmas season, both in terms of processing and mail.

I actually didn’t call the USCIS office until we’d already received the green card, some months later, because it had a typo on it and we had to go through another whole rigamarole with them.



Pinks

I sent my I-751 on February 20, 2007 and received a Finger Print Receipt letter shortly after. However I haven’t received a receipt with a 1 year extension. Am I premitted to travel aboard even though I don’t have the extension? Thanks!



Kapil Rajurkar

I submitted my I-751 in September, 2006. Had my fingerprints taken in October. I have received the letter for extension.

In May I received a letter asking for further evidence specifically asking for evidence of a Bona Fide marriage and joint lease/property since we got married.

I have taken letters from people at my university, colleagues, brothers and even my wife! But I have taken these letters in printed form with only their signatures (as opposed to sworn affidavits). Will that suffice? Or is it of no importance if the letters are not sworn by?

Thanks!



Edo

Wow — I’m just preparing to file this jointly with my wife (I’m American, she is Argentine) and this was _really_ helpful reading. Thanks.

We’ve been living with our parents most of the two years, so have no leases to speak of. A written letter from my parents would be the way to go, I suppose? And what’s a sworn affidavit then, if not a signed letter? I must be confusing them as one and the same…



Roxanne

Geese! I’m doing this for my brother-in-law but will have to do it for my husband in 2 years. My sister and I both married foreigners. I will start now. Great advice.!



Roxanne

I sent my I 751 on April 27, 2007. I didn’t receive a receipt as yet.it’s now June 15th.I’m just praying to God right now. Not even the fingerprint appt ,I really want to travel what must I do ?



Marilyn

I just wanted to mention that everyone should get a NOA1 and not just because they are behind in their processing… that is just the common practice…

Also if you pay all your bills online etc.. you can just print off your bill online , they usually have options for that on the utility sites…

And affidavits are not a requirement, they are a suggestion… We didn’t include any and our petition was approved with no problems or RFE’s…

and as of now the new fees are $275 ($70 biometric fee included) and you don’t have to include the passport photos anymore… You will get a biometrics appointment where they will take your fingerprints and picture…



Ricemutt

Thanks, Marilyn, for the updated info!



sydalg

I mail my I-751 last May 26, 2007 through UPS priority mail but until now I haven’t receive anything. I wonder if they receive my mail or not or what happen to my papers



Marilyn

sydalg, did you track your package and do you know if they received your package?

It probably will be another couple of weeks before you hear anything. It took about a month before we got the NOA but sometimes it takes longer, depending on where you filed…



sydalg

Marilyn, thank you. Unfortunately, I mailed priority but not certified so their’s no tracking no. but I asked the them at the post office and said they should receive it because its a priority. So should I wait for another couple of weeks before I call the USCIS office?



Rob

This is great information. I’m working on filing the I-751 for my spouse. I’m a citizen and she’s from El Salvador. I’ve been calling around to local lawyers, and it seems that the going rate for assistance with this form is about $1,000 – $2,000. A couple of lawyers told me that the form was simple enough that I could file it myself. One lawyer even spent a half an hour on the phone with me and discussed the filing requirements in detail. I was very surprised to hear that he had yet to include the affidavits. I assumed and will continue to assume that they are mandatory. I agree with the advice given, swampt the bureaucracy with documentation.



hit

is anyone know how long will it take to get
NOA and biometric for Nebraska service center. I just sent my i-751 form on 23rd August, they receive on 24th Aug but still no reply. It’s almost two weeks.

Do anyone have experience with Nebraska service center? I am planning to go out of country in Dec, i don’t know.



Hannah

Anyone know how long it’ll take to receive the biometric appt from the date of receipt of NOA? I am planning to travel shortly, and not sure if it’s the best time to leave. I submitted my application on Aug 21 with the Vermont Service Center, and have received NOA 2 weeks later.



troy

What is the best mailing options to send an I-751 petition?
Thanks



NEBI

Pls does any one know how if getting my biometrics and picture taken means no interview and condition on permanent residency removed? And how long it takes to get the 10yrs GC if filling with Nebraska Center. Thanks



Anna

Hi, i was wondering regarding joint bills – how many statements of each do i need to submit? Will it be enough to send just a couple of most recent ones?
And another question – what would you say from your personal experience: is it worth it to spend money on a lawyer or is it simple enough to do it myself?
Thanks
Anna



nyl zurc

wow! ur all great… thanksfor all the advices!!!

i’ve learned alot, i will be filing soon this coming Nov-2007 my 2nd annie will be on March-03-07. God Speed!



MELHAM

my daughter got her i-551 separate from me, mine is january 2008 hers is may 2008. my lawyer mailed my i-751 today Oct 23 2007 and my daughter will be filing hers on february 2008. any one like my case?



ChrisW

Good info, and thanks for sharing your experience here!

I filed my I-751 for my wife (with 45 pages of associated documents) a few weeks ago. I have yet to receive a receipt, but I do know they received our parcel. So we’re not too worried yet.

One thing that is useful when doing this yourself, is read and re-read (and then re-read) the I-751 instructions. They can be downloaded here: http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/I-751instr.pdf.

They are fairly clear, though their list of evidence to send along is really just a list of suggestions. We did not send any affidavits, but we did send many other documents. I believe this is similar to evidence of relationship you need to gather when filing an immigrant visa application. In other words, their lists are simply suggestions to help in choosing good documents to state your case.

We did not include passport photos either. The instructions say they require front/back copies of the green card, but the photos are only needed as exceptions for those residing overseas or in the military.

Most galling about this process is the fee. After spending a great deal of money in the immigrant visa process 2 years ago, it is very aggravating to spend additional money just to get this condition removed. The cost now is a total of $545 ($465 filing fee and $80 biometric fee). Simply put, this is HIGHWAY ROBBERY. If there is ever an organized outcry about these ridiculous costs, I will certainly be joining in.



papi1958

I am supposed to complete form I-751, my green card expires on jan 31 08, i have all the papers they need, i am still married, do i need a lawyer?? i really cant afford a lawyer.



MELHAM

PAPIL,

you dont need lawyer if you have complete documents , you can do it yourself, just make a copies and even the picture put them together with the fees and mail them certified.



imailin

My husband and I filed the form I-751 on June 2007, we received the biometric application shortly after. Now for some reason no matter how much money they charge or not, USCIS is behind… again… they are processing form received up to April 2007… I wonder, will we have the conditions taken out by Christmas? that will be a nice present from Santa.
Did anyone filled around June and already received everything?



sean

Hi guys this is pretty informative site and experiences shared wow!!! we are all in the same boat, well can anybody tell me what to do :
1)) uscis tsc recieved my application on Feb-12
2)got my i-797
3) now the time frame is out of the time period and they are processing april 2007

4)called uscis they sent a letter your case is still pending

Is this normal delay or do i have to wait

any suggestions please



imailin

Sean: Well, have you received the biometrics appointment? if not You may have to call since they received your application on February and they are already processing April. Have you received the letter saying that your case is processing?



Sunny I

Please does anyone have suggestions, I miss the 90-day deadline for filing the petition to remove condition of permanent residency, now I have only 30-days left to file, i am ready to file in a couple of days, also have to travel outside the US, is it advisable to do so? By the time i return i will probably have 15 days left before my greencard expires.



imailin

well. send everything before you leave…. you still have those 30 days left…. if you miss that, then you are in trouble. it is important… cause if you dont they could deport you.



NickD

I wrote my senator regarding the I-751, exactly how many people are bringing aliens into this country using the marriage provision for profit? Seems like a very unprofitable undertaking, I figure if I were to start a business would have to charge at least $500,000.00 per woman to make a profit besides the huge risks involved.

The I-751 is completely redundant to the initial immigration phase we all had to go through, essentially the same paperwork and proof. Get a bit tired where this is very common of practically all government agencies, you are guilty until you prove yourself innocent, just the opposite of what out Bill of Rights state. In addition, a veteran of a foreign war that somehow managed not to be killed serving his country, but at one time was willing to die for this country. Not anymore.

We have 20 million illegals in this country with more crossing the borders each and everyday our government is not doing anything about. Nevertheless, we are paying a huge penalty for attempting to do things, legally. I get disheartened each month to see that Nebraska is falling further and further behind, my senator is helping, but apparently, he does not have much pull.

I have to take a nice pill before any contact with immigration, and really swallow my pride. I am treated as not only a criminal, but a child as well. By chance, I met my wife over five years ago, we courted for over two years before tying the knot and have been very happily married for over three years now. For me, she is one in a billion, but she is not from this country I fought for.

We both married the person next door that ended up in a disaster for both of us, you do not necessarily meet the person God intended for a long happy life, next door.

I did hire an attorney for the first phase, and offered to pay him for the I-751 phase, he said, I would gain nothing so I compiled the paperwork attempting to keep things simple. The immigrant fills out the I-751 that both of us read six times and I did the cover letter specifying her numbers, full name, and a list of the enclosed documents.

How does one prove he loves his wife? Made color photos of her driving license, sent in copies of joint ownership of our home and vehicles, joint IRS tax forms, auto, life, and health insurance, and joint bank statements, plus four notarized affidavits from friends that we are living together with a statement, the USCIS is welcomed to visit us at anytime. If they want a hundred such affidavits, can provide them, but why should we have to prove our innocence?

If you read the context of the I-751, it is loaded with loop holes, just claim verbal abuse, get a divorce and marry another alien, for profit.

I waited exactly 90 days to FedEx the I-751 with even a cashiers check enclosed with no questions of a bouncing check, it was cashed in two days. But with the delays, felt I should have sent it in a year earlier. Why the impatience on our part? For one, the one year extension is getting close to expiration, then there is the tension. But I told my wife, why would they deport her and not the other 20 million that are here illegally, we are trying to do this legally with all of our cards on the table. And if she is deported, I am going with her, the hell with this country I fought for, will find some country that would welcome both of us.

Furthermore my wife is a professional woman working for a large corporation with very strict immigration rules. And it is embarrassing for me to go to her legal department and explain to them why her green card is expired and her one year extension date is near to expire. If Nebraska is falling so far behind, can’t they get help from the other three? Besides, immigration is self supporting and can’t even keep up with their recent drastic fee increases. Something is wrong here.

This country is based on independent strong thinking individuals, but we are all turning out to be lambs.



imailin

NickD I am with you!!

UsCIS is getting more expensive by the months, not by the years.. But slower by the minutes…



NickD

Price today for the I-751 is $465 plus another $80 for biometric fees. But again I ask, is it really necessary? Does it prevent marriages for just the sake of bringing in aliens? What about state laws, live in WI with very strict divorce laws with extended waiting times, plus regarding whether you have a prenuptial agreement or not, odds are the courts won’t approve it.

Would be nice if the USCIS published the number of criminals the I-751 has caught.



Fredfreomsanjose

Hi. This page is extremely helpful. I am starting the I-751 and was wondering if anyone has a sample Sworn Affidavit from friends and family? I know it is not required but in talking to 3 immigration lawyers, the more affidavit docs the better. They cannot give me the text of the affidavit without me retaining them…



NickD

The following is what I e-mail to the persons I requested an affidavit from. It’s best these people write in their own words just following the guidelines. Whether it’s acceptable to the USCIS, will not know until they get to our application.

“An outline of what the USCIS wants is as follows taken from their I-751 application form.

“Affidavits sworn to or affirmed by at least two people who have known both of you since your conditional residence was granted and have personal knowledge of your marriage and relationship. (Such persons may be required to testify before an immigration officer as to the information contained in the affidavit.)

The original affidavit must be submitted and also contain the following:

Information regarding the person making the affidavit:

His or her full name and address;

Date and place of birth;

Relationship to you or your spouse, if any;

Full information and complete details explaining how the
person acquired his or her knowledge.

Affidavits must be
supported by other types of evidence listed above.”

Here is a sample letter I found on the web:

*Full Name*
*Address*
*Phone Number*
8-31-03
To whom it may concern:
My date of birth is xx-xx-xx, and I was born in town, state. I have known Jennie xxxxx since March 2001. I first met her at a family dinner at a local restaurant. I attended her wedding to Benjamin xxxxx in August 2001. I see Jennie regularly at family events and holidays. I have spent the past three 4th of July celebrations with Jennie and Benjamin watching fireworks. I have helped them move into their first apartment in 2001 and recently into their new home in June 2003. They have worked hard together to make this home their home. They are happily married and looking forward to their years ahead.
Sincerely,
*Signature*

Closure of this letter can be:

“I declare under penalty of perjury under the Law of the United States of America that the foregoing is true and correct. Signed on month day, year at my town, my state.”

If your affidavit writer is willing / able to have their letter notarised, then you may as well have it done.

We will need this letter of affidavit by March 27, 2007 when our form is due for submital. We will need the actual letter on not an e-mail copy.”



Ymadra

I submitted by I-751 petition to Nebraska Service Center in the first week of Oct. I just happebed to check the status of my case on uscis’s website and noticed that my file is now at the California SC. Is this normal? did this happen to someone else also? please share.

The biometric notice I received in Nov also has a California receipt number.



NickD

Processing dates are posted once a month, disheartening to learn that Nebraska has only gained a week after waiting a month. CA states they are processing I-751′s in under six months.

Man I hate that guy at our local DMV office, really gave my wife a hard time getting her drivers license 3 years ago. Finally had to go to a town 120 miles away where the people are not so prejudiced.

Well she gets her renewal application, this can’t be bad, she works at a clinic and have her eye doctor fill out the portion on her eyes so she doesn’t have to fool around with that. Bring in her expired permanent resident card if that makes any sense plus her I-797C one year extension form. This jerk wants to keep those for his records, I say no way, would copies be okay, he says yes. We leave, get copies made and come back. Then this jerk says I never heard of this extension notice and will have to contact Madison to find out.

We had this same problem with her employer, except there, I was nice. Just because I am a veteran of a foreign war, I must think that I am special.

So he tells us he will have to send these copies to Madison to find out if they are legal before she can get her renewal. I can’t tell you how angry I was. So now we have to wait to find out if she can even get her renewal.

In the meantime, many illegals driving around here in brand new SUV’s without a license, and the cops turn their backs. I am calling my senator today, this is a country I was willing to give my life to, but not anymore.

I was born in Illinois and needed a new copy of my birth certificate, they switched to a computerized system and made a bunch of errors. I finally hired an attorney as my wife had typographic errors in some of her paper work as well, So far I have spent about $15,000.00 and still back at square one.

Did just receive a call from Madison, they will extend her license for the period remaining on her one year extension, then we will have to reapply again. Again there was no more new information on the I-751, same old stuff, same old wait, and same old frustration. Was told by the DMV, sorry, but the good have to pay for the sins of the bad.



elisabeth

hi, I filed in /texas jan 30, 2007 for I 751- it is still being processes, meaning it has not been even looked at yet. I called immigration, as according to web page it is outside of processing time which is supposed to be 6 months. I had an angry officer talking me telling me that the processing time is up to 12 months, when I asked why the web page gives different info, he commented that would need to be changed. however the web-page still shows a much shorter processing time. I am wondering whether they post that on their web page to look good towards their superior. I am frustrated , as I need to travel, however the 1 year extension is due to expire, and I do not even know when the final letter of approval would come.
I find the immigration procedures most inefficient, and would like to do something about that with media. anybody have a link whom to contact here to bring this to public attention?



NickD

My call did work to our governors office, DMV issued a full eight year drivers license to my wife.

Says on the back of that I-797C to call your service center at anytime, they prefer that over a letter to quickly tell you the status of your case. After your comment, Elisabeth, will hold off on that, sometimes a squeaky wheel gets the grease, other times it gets pitched. My state senator is showing concern, but the congressmen tell me there is a war going on.

In the initial go around, they checked by background to my birthdate and quickly learned I didn’t marry foreigners a zillion times, just once and this one is forever.

We had proof of a two year courtship with many visits, letters, and hundreds of photos, we both made bad mistakes in our first marriage and didn’t want to make another one, she just happen to be in another country. Ha, marrying the person next door didn’t work if either of us.

To have to go through all this stress again, seems insane.



lekalo

I am terrified! I sent the I-751 yesterday (Overnight guarranteed as recommended), but the post office informed me that the “attempted to deliver” and will try again later, if not they would hold my package for pick up for 5 days! I said, this is a PO BOX who is going to pick up the package? I have proff that they attempted to deliver it, but here is the thing, my 90 days expire on 12/14/07, so I sent it on 12/12/07 to arrive today 12/13/07. So obviously this is the very last day! What’s going to happen? Does USCIS take into consideration that it was sent on time, or do they simply receive it and deny my case (or deport me) b/c I was late due to the whole post office issue. Does anyone know of a case like this…Help!



lekalo

sorry for the typos…I’m just really stressed out!



imailin

Well, I haven’t paid much attention to the forums and uscis website for the last month… This is really stressing me out… I don’t really need that…
In the last month Texas center only have moved 3 days… with the amount of money that they charge now a days they should at least try to be a little more efficient. Back on September I got an info pass appointment; well my green card was expiring, and I wanted them to stamp my passport. The Officer that “help” me was really rude. She treated me like if I was from another planet and replied to me: “have you receive your NOA?” I said yes, but I had some questions… she did not even let me finish my sentence when she told me with a tone “form i751 takes A LOOOOONGGG time, so you have to wait. Goodbye” Jesus! Come on! Apparently they do not do much for people, at least answer my question with respect, I would think…
My frustration is that I see people that filed after me and they have been transfer to California and they are being approved… That is not fair, just because I got stuck on Texas I have to wait… why?



imailin

lekalo
WHY DID YOU WAIT UNTIL THE LAST SECOND?
i DONT REALLY KNOW WHAT THEY WILL TELL YOU, BUT SOMETHING FOR SURE I WOULD DO : IS GET AN ATTORNEY AND MAKE HIM CALL THEM. GOD LUCK!



NickD

lekalo is not clear if he/she is specifying the expiration date of his/her temporary PRC or the recommended 90 day before the card expires that the NSCIS recommends you send in the I-751 to give them time to process it before the card expires.

I have read on an immigration attorney’s site, sorry, forgot the link that he recommends you apply for the N-400 application for US Citizenship at the same time you apply for the I-751 and gave an example where one of his clients received their US Citizenship before they received their ten year permanent resident card.

I passed this on to a friend of my wife that is over a year ahead of us that also has been married for well over three years. Her N-400 was rejected because the NSCIS goes by the date of the PRC, not the marriage date, and this date can be either months or years after the marriage date.

Not sure why people call the PRC a green card, it ain’t green, can’t even find green on the new cards.

We are all Immigrants to this great country, I have the original immigration papers from my grandfather 120 years ago. All done in Ellis Island, one sheet that was typed in a hurry, even the capital letters are raised because the typist didn’t fully depress that old heavy caps shift key. Three months later, have the single sheet for his US Citizenship, of prime importance is the oath of allegiance he pledged to this country.

My wife is also of European descent, her grandfather came from a town only 350 miles away from where my grandfather came from but somehow got on a boat to South rather than North America. It’s a small world, too bad things are so much more complicated today than a hundred years ago and certainly a lot more time consuming. I didn’t see anything about fees on his immigration nor citizen papers, that changed too.



MD

I just sent my I-751 and my husband and I have like tons of paperwork, financial,legal, bills…amazing in three years of marriage you don’t get that much of a “green” behavior. Unfortunately we have to sent it to Texas Service Center that now says that the receipt dates are current…will see, the processing time it’s another story.
The only result of all the illegal immigration debate was only more fees and more struggle for the legals ones…what a justice!
How possible is taking same or more time than the first phase? I mean we are married already, you approved me the first time round duh, and what about after two years that be paying taxes, work hard and all that, where is that?…plus it’s NOT practical to have all the things together…what about the ones who like to be independent (like me), does not make any sense. Plus most companies once you were with them they don’t like to be doing “joint” stuff. It’s ridiculous! since when I need my husband to decide which color and what car to buy? But well, the last car we buy, we did all together and was a pain, he was at the dealer, I was at the bank, we were calling each other and nobody understood why he needed me and why I needed to go there…
Since they raise the fees, I would prefer to pay even more just to go directly in front of an officer the date that I have to file, show my papers, answer their questions and be done in less than a day, be efficient…oh no, it can’t be that way because then by 2009 the fee wouldn’t be able to be $700 for the same inefficency and paperwork.



NickD

City, township, county, state, and federal are the different forms of government we live under and the first four all have different rules, regulations, statues, laws, and ordinances. Not sure about the four NSCIS service centers, no experience in this, do all four treat an immigrant equally?

In Wisconsin for example if a couple that lives here gets married in another state, the marriage is not even recognized and severe fines can be imposed, and depending what county you live in, have to show proof of all previous marriages and divorces so not does one have to go through all this stuff with the NSCIS, but also with the county and the state. If you get married in a religious institution and that marriage is annulled by that institution, the state does recognize the marriage but not the annulment, you still have to go through the state procedure to get a legal divorce.

In my state, even if a couple does not get legally married, but live together for a certain period of time, the state considers that as a common law marriage and a state divorce action must take place. I know of cases where the woman is receiving alimony payments from a guy she lived with for two years.

In my state, a guy would be insane to marry an alien just to bring her in, the NSCIS would be nothing, prenuptial agreements are not recognized and in the case of a divorce, would be paying alimony for the rest of his life or until the woman decides to remarry. And if she paid the guy to bring her here would be in a perfect position to blackmail him, get all of the money back she paid him, plus get alimony besides. Does the NSCIS even consider the state rules?

Even at that, the woman, or man in this case can claim mental or physical abuse according to the I-751 or a hardship in returning to her country and still get their PRC.

Even with a couple that are very much in love, the NSCIS is putting undue stress on that marriage by the way they treat the couple and their long delays, the alien spouse does live constantly with the threat of deportation, a fear factor that is certainly not deserved. As I told my wife many times, if anything goes wrong, both of us are leaving this God Damned country, a country that I swore to give my life to.

She left all of her possessions and a high paying job to come here, does the NSCIS even consider the sacrifices she made?

America is described as the great melting pot of the world, but just listen to the candidates running for president about the racial prejudices still harming this country or the minorities. Hearing about it and experiencing it is another story.

My wife brought a daughter just starting high school, didn’t speak English very well and was picked on by many of her fellow students and even some teachers. I can’t tell you the hell that I raised with that high school, just short of a lawsuit, but it was continuous. Today, she speaks English better than most Americans, but it was a very bad experience for a young girl to have to go through. Something I didn’t even think about, thought more of having a happy peaceful family.

My wife has experienced the same problems at the DMV that I mentioned, we went to another DMV in another town that wasn’t quiet so prejudice, I don’t want a lawsuit. She was also shunned by certain co-workers in her job, but she in her kind gentle way is a though cookie even getting a very high reward at her job where she was honored by these prejudiced co-workers.

There welcome into the USA when they first arrived her was a strip search inspection at the airport, I was so furious I was ready to kill treating a 5′ 3″ 120 pound woman that way.

I did finally travel with her to her home country to meet my wonderful in-laws for the first time, going down was no problem, but returning, I tossed down my VA card and put my arm around my wife and told the immigration guy, this is my honey and kissed her. I transmitted vibrations, if they didn’t treat her with the greatest respect, I would kill him and I could. Everything went smooth. Her friend traveling alone went through hell trying to get back into this country.

Regarding my in-laws, almost impossible for them to come visit us getting a visa, my wonderful mother-in-law did visit us last year, and it probably sounds strange hearing that a guy was a wonderful mother-in-law, but she is an angel from heaven. It took her over a year to get a visa to come visit us. My wife does have a son that can’t even come over to visit us that she hasn’t seen for over three years, but we got a chance to visit him. He really likes me and I like him.

I have discussed all this and other issues with both my congressman and senator, but told there is a war going on. What for Iraqi freedom, have both friends and relatives going back there again, they don’t even want freedom. What about staying here and fighting for American freedom? The foundations of this great country are based on independent thinking men! We have way too many lambs in this country today being led to slaughter rather than standing up for their rights and becoming a very corporate ran country. I don’t like it, not what America is all about.

Most of our congressman and senators have no idea what our 1,525 government agencies are doing. For one thing, it is far way too complex. Time this country returns back to basics, or it is just going to die.



NickD

On the other hand, it appears the origin of the I-751 is based on a huge number of fraudulent marriages prior to 1986 as an easy way to bring immigrants into this country due to imposed conventional quotas.

From:

http://discuss.ilw.com/eve/ubb.x/a/tpc/f/902603441/m/28910060611

“True to their name, the Immigration Marriage Fraud Amendments of 1986 were primarily designed to deter sham marriages. The two year period promulgated thereunder should be an adequate deterrent against sham marriages at the threshold level, providing a warning to the parties that a short term marriage of convenience will no longer provide the simplest method for immigrating into this country.
At the end of the two year conditional period, the manner in which the Service interprets its function in assessing marriages for immigration purposes is of great importance. Congressional omission from the Amendments of a marriage viability requirement can be seen as a warning to the Service not to encroach on an area traditionally left to the states and a recognition of the validity of judicial criticism of the Service overstepping its authority by operating in the field of domestic relations.
Although a marriage that has been judicially terminated will be held presumptively fraudulent and a traditional marital union may be summarily approved, those unions that do not fit the traditional model may be subject to greater scrutiny and greater level of proof that they are not sham. In this context prior case law can provide a guide as to the possible treatment of such marriges for immigration purposes.
Rather than “lock-in”‘ the parties to a marriage, i.e., require that the marriage must conform to the traditional model, the conditional period’s primary function is to “lock-out”‘ the fraudulent marriage from the beginning. Any potentially harsh effects on good faith marriages are ameliorated by judicial interpretations that require that citizen/ alien spouses cannot be required to have more conventional marriages than average citizens. The Amendments give the Service the tools to prevent sham marriages. At the same time, however, the Amendments serve to protect good faith marriages under immigration law, thereby furthering the congressional aim of family reunification through the preferential treatment of alien spouses of United States citizens.”

Appears that well over 75% of the marriages were fraudulent, it was good for me to read this and maybe I will have some patience now. The NSCIS is still overflooded with marriage based immigrant applications.

Made the comment to my wife yesterday, it’s five years now since we met, we both couldn’t believe how fast five years went by.

We invited the USCIS to our home, hope they come, we have nothing to hide. And in meeting my wife, I finally believed in soulmates.



NickD

Wife says yesterday, let’s rent a movie to relax, I go to the video store to see a bunch of movies on chopping up people and serial killers, not my idea of entertainment. I see a new Robin Williams move, his best ever, License to Wed. He plays a Catholic priest with a program practically guaranteed to break up a potential married couple that was a lot more tedious than funny.

The potential groom, dismayed with his behavior investigates his past, learns that as a priest, he was married and divorced. Hit with this accusation, Father Frank admits it was true, but it is okay, he did not marry this woman with kids for sex.

She was illegal, married her to make her legal, then divorced her, not a failed marriage, but presented as a noble act on his part to bring in an illegal.

Guess this is why we have the I-751, but it still seems to thread upon our constitution, we are all guilty until we prove ourselves innocent.

Recall many years ago when in the military, friends and neighbors told me the FBI came around and asked many questions about me, was given a top secret clearance to perform my job. So why can they send those people around today, even the local police to find out who is breaking the law?



Veronica

I sent my I-751 last August. Later they captured my fingerprints. I was told that I have to wait 1 year to get the green card. I was thinking my petition is beig processed and I was not worring. Last week, which will be 5 months later from the day I was taken the fingerprints, I got a new letter wich said:”In order to remove your conditional residence you have to appear to this office so we can capture your fingerprints”. I have to go on Friday. What the heck. Why are they asking me again for the finger prints. Did this happen to anybody before? can anybody explain to me what the heck is going on?



MELHAM

its good they sent you a letter to notify you about having a finger print again..my daughter last 2004 after finger printing we waited 1 yr for the green card , until when I was called ( this time in NJ) for interview my passport was stamped , they stamped my daughter’s passport too thinking that her biometric was approved (in NY) , then after 3 months they are taking back my daughter’s stamped because they never got any biometric the officer got a mistake , they found out that in NY (where she had it) did not submit her biometric… so in NJ again requested for another one..it was good our papers was transferred here in NJ if not, up to this time they will say (INS) its a name check problem” we kept on going in info pass to what’s going on.

Maybe the same thing it was not submitted.



NickD

NSCIS is taking their time in posting the latest processing dates, but it’s Christmas time, can’t fool around with that, right? Nebraska is showing January 27, 2007 as of last months date. Have a bet with my wife, I feel the new date will be January 29, wife is more optimistic like the first week in February. Anyone else want to bet?

Another possibility for redoing the biometrics is that they were lost as well as the rest of the paperwork, but somehow didn’t lose the name of the applicant. The amount of inconvenience of that depends upon how close you live to your nearest field office. If it’s across the street, no problem.

Wife’s friend was called in for an interview with no reasons given, for her, a 750 mile round trip that can’t be done in a days time. She had to take off two day from work, spend money for a motel only to be told her paperwork was lost and she has to come back in a month with all the paperwork and new biometrics, so she had to make that trip again. She did get her PRC.

For us, our field office is in downtown Milwaukee, 460 mile round trip, never know the traffic nor the weather so give three hours leeway and at this time of year, can get a bad blizzard. And the form says if late or missed the appointment, your application will be denied and have to start all over again, that is not a comforting thought.

In contrast, my wife and I went to her home country and upon return, the immigration officer reminded us that we should have filed the I-751, I did bring along documents if proof and he said we are doing well. Says many aren’t even aware of this obligation, he didn’t say what happens to them and I didn’t ask. Just relieved that my wife and I could go back to our home.



dessssi

I am just getting prepared for sending my I-751. I can tell the information was very helpfull to me. My 90 days will start on 01-13-08, so I have 2 weeks. I am not even thinking of sending the papers later, since any way I will wait may be more than a year for a new green card. I have a good job and I don’t want to loose it, because of some immigration BS. Go explain to the american that doesent even now anything about USCIS what is this form that you got for extension of your green card.
My question is why they want from you your fingerprints after they already have them since they had to be taken 2 years ago for your first green card. Did they change? I don’t think so. ooo I think they just want more money..
When my husband asked me to marry him and I said yes I didn’t want to tell anybodey, because they will think I paid him. We worked together at this time and everybodey thouth I was with him so I can get him to marry me and I can stay in US. I had to hide one of the happiest days of my life, because of the judging of the others. We requested a day off, so we can go and get married. We told only the very good friends. Well I get yelled that I pick this day off and they want me to work, so I had to tell. Since then I heard so many comments…Now everybodey knows it wasn’t a fake marrage, but what we had to go thrue to prove our love….
The other day a police man stoped me for a burned light at my car and asked me where I am from and my husband was sitting next to me and he asked me:How much did you paid him to marry you? I was sooooo mad. I don’t think this judgment will ever stop.
I can’t wait to get this green card, so they can all see I am still with him even I have it.
I can’t see how you can stay married for somebodey for money for more than 4 years and you still dont have the paperwork…It’s just ridiculas!



NickD

Well dessssi, why just make an issue out of fingerprints when the entire I-751 procedure is entirely redundant?

My wife and I opted for a very large wedding with all of our friends and relatives invited and had a nice thick wedding album to show to the NSCIS agent that was quite impressive. Feel you opting for secrecy is your problem. Kind of indicates you have something to hide.

Disheartening to see after the NSCIS posted the new processing dates two weeks late, that Nebraska only advanced 13 days. Ha no longer a question whether we are going to get that PRC, but more of a question as to whether we will live long enough to get it.



dessssi

well, the rason we didn’t have a big wedding is money and we wanted to do it with family. My husband was the last kid out of 4 and he was not planed, so all his life he was treated like the mistake of the family, so his family didn’t even wanted to come to the wedding. Imagine that. My family couln’t get visa to come, so I never got the dreamed wedding, but at least I found the right one for me.
The place I worked on that time was horrible. The people were treated me with disrespect, because I was a foreigner. They all new and liked my ex and they couldn’t understand I left him, because he hit me.1 month after the wedding we both left the job for good. I don’t have anythig to hide, just the life is not always perfect for everybodey.
Don’t get me wrond I have a lot of pictures to show and a lot of prove that we are a couple. I work in a great company now on a good position and I am well respected.I was 21 when we married and we were young and had no idea what we had to go thru.



NickD

Ha, I am a bit older and had no idea what we had to go through.

One way to really prove your intentions is to have a child. That child if born in the USA automatically becomes a US citizen, and even if things do go wrong with the NSCIS, they will never deport your child nor you as you have to take care of it.

Sorry for the prejudice in this country, my wife and her daughter, especially her daughter had to go through the same thing. But the perpetrators soon learned they had to deal with me. I hope your husband stands up for you as well.

My wife and daughter had made lots of new friends since then. They both could be US citizens by now, if the dang NSCIS wasn’t so slow. But they go by the PRC dates.

Ha in-law problems with my previous marriage, best to move far away and make your own lives. Ha, they will come around sooner or later, and then you will wish it was later.



NickD

Ha, here it is the 14th again, another month went by. Wonder when the USCIS will post the new processing dates and how far they will advance this month? Any bets?



kobe8

I think the uscis is also in recession. i just submitted mine last week lets see what happen



NickD

Least they let you wait at home for that more than a year it takes to process a I-751. Think how it would be if you had to stand in line!

Ha, shouldn’t bring that up, they may change the policy.



KC

I-751 filed mid-Feb
Received 3/16/07 by Texas Service Center
Extension 1 yr to 3/30/08
Biometrics completed 4/25/07
No interview… yet…

I have a question. Suppose they take longer than a year to process this application. Are we supposed to make an infopass appointment to get another year extension on the conditonal resident status? Or is this automatically extended until they pull their finger out and process it?

Also, aren’t the biometrics only valid for a year? In other words, if they don’t make a decision by 4/25/08 will I have to take (and pay for) more biometrics?

This is crazy. BTW don’t believe the dates online. I filed mine 3/16 and have heard nothing. Apparently as of 12/14/07 they were completing cases received 4/8/07…

One final point. If illegals are to get amnesty, we should all file a class action for our $$$ back…



NickD

From the USCIS site:

“If you have a question about case status information provided via this site, or if you have not received a decision from USCIS within the current processing time listed, please contact the USCIS Customer Service at (800) 375 – 5283 or 1-800-767-1833 (TTY).”

Have heard of people getting an extension of their extension that they needed to keep their jobs. But have never heard of anyone successfully suing the government.



Juliana

Everyone’s advice is great… Thank you all!!!
My Conditional Resident card expired on 7/15/2007… I filed on 7/1/2007 (pretty late) but it was mainly because I almost got a divorce and it was odd asking my friends and family for the affidavits eventhough everyone knew we were arguing constantly. Good news is we patched things up and want to get married by the church soon. In conclusion to the filing we did not submit much paperwork just 2 affidavits, couple of bills and photos.
I received the appointment for my fingerprints surprisingly fast. At the end of August I had my fingerprints. We were traveling this december out of the country and in addition to the extention letter I received in August I had my passport stamped just in case.

Well it’s now over the 6 months and no “green card”…

Was it because I filed almost at expiration or should I not be worried because I got the letter and had the fingerprints.

Thanks good louck to you all



KC

Juliana, Depending on the Service Center you used, the application will more than likely take longer than 6 months. I’ve been waiting for 10 so far with no word following the biometrics in April 2007. I filed with Texas who I believe are the worst. California are apparently the quickest though.

If your filing date is before the date applications are being processed according to the USCIS website, I would give them a call to review.

In September 2007 Texas were completing petitions dated 3/19/07 I believe, so I called and was told if I didn’t hear anything in 6 months to call them again. Since September, the completion date has gone from 3/19/07 to 4/6/07. It’s taken them 4 months to work through 17 days of petitions. At this rate of completion, they should have yours completed by 2010… I’d check on the service center handling your case though.

BTW, is there any word on how often USCIS is supposed to update their processing dates? They used to be updated on the 17th, but now they’re being updated the following month. I though December’s dates were just held up due to the holidays, but it’s happening again this month by the seem of it.

To NICKD – Are the USCIS really considered a Government entity when it’s 100% privately funded? Just wondering… :)



NickD

NSCIS is indubitably a government agency but is suppose to be self supporting by the fees it charges. More than doubling the fees is suppose to reduce the processing time by 10-15%.

Is taking a long time to update the processing dates, thank goodness these people don’t work for US corporations. Nebraska, the very slowest is at 02/09/2007. We filed in early March of last year, wondering what the new date will be, February 10, 2007?

Hmmm, lot’s of arguments, sounds like my first marriage that didn’t last, but wish you the best Juliana.

Had everything filled out and sent it precisely 90 days before the expiration date, we had the biometrics appointment 3 weeks afterwards. Thought everything was moving good, then the clock stopped.

Did send in a ton of stuff, can’t be any doubt, just hope they didn’t lose it.



betty

for the I-751 does anyone here knows anyway to expedite the process? my spouse is in the military don’t know if have his commander send a letter will make it faster



KC

They’ve updated the dates today. Now Texas are completing cases dated April 19, which is strange as ours was received March 16…



NickD

Nebraska went from 02/09/2007 to 02/10/2007 if you can believe that. Just one day in over a month?

My feelings are that any attempts to buck the line will just end up sending you to the rear. But if your processing date has well passed, they claim you should call.



KC

The processing dates for Texas have been ahead of my date received since Sept. Called then and got an email back in Nov saying to wait up to 6 more months and if nothing heard by then to call again. I doubt they’re organized enough to send the petitions of people who call in to the back of the line :-) I wish they would send it to CA where they seem to be more organized. As you say, I just hope they haven’t lost it..



NickD

Curious to learn if anyone lost their job or was deported due to delays in processing, now that could be major.

Like anything else, you don’t do a search until you run into problems, took the I-751 on their word to allow 90 days for complete processing, then started wondering why nothing was happening.



CharlesS

A lot of good information on this board, keep it up.

I’m currently in the process of gathering all my supporting documentation and affidavits to file the I-751 form. I was concerned about the affidavits at first but after some online searching, I think I have a handle on what needs to me included. Not too sure about the format for affidavits and if they need to be typed or is handwritten ok? I will send whatever I get.

One small question has to do with photos of the wife and I. Should we send copies of the actually photos, or just make a montage of them and print them out on letter sized paper? Any help would be great. Thank you



KC

So today I kinda got some news about my petition thats been in Texas for 10.5 months… today they’ve transferred it to Vermont… I give up.



TED

HI EVERYONE MY I-751 PENDING OVER ONE YEAR NOW I FILE 1-18-2007 AND I GOT BIO-M AND EXTENTION LETTER ON 1-24-2007 UNTIL THAT TIME IT WAS PRETTY FAST… AND I CONTECT INS 10-25-2007 I TOLD THEM MY CASE IS OUTSIDE OF NOMAL PROSESSING TIME AND THEY SENT LETTER TO ME IT’S STILL PENDING BECAUSE MY BACKGROUND CHECK IS NOT DONE YET.ALSO THEY SAID I HAVE TO WAIT 6 MORE MONTH BEFOR CONTECT WITH INS.. NOW ITS OVER 1YEAR IAM STILL WAITTING……..
I’M REALLY WORRY ABOUT MY CASE NOW. ANYBODY HAS ANY IDEA ?? HELP ME OUT PLEASE…..



TED

PS: MY CASE IN VSC.



NickD

The only color photos I sent were copies of the PRCs and of my wife’s and her daughters, and my driver licenses, double size on photo quality paper so they could clearly see their photos are the same as on their PRCs and that all three addresses on the driver licenses are identical. You don’t exactly get a DL in my state without a bunch of proof where you live.

I did a lot of research on the affidavits and posted my results above, some of my letters were hand written, but all were notarized.

Never heard about a second background check, thought we all went through that on the first go around with tons of documentation along with a nice long wait.

On our first go around with the NSCIS, I brought in a thick brief case with all the original documentation, and a stack of copies about an inch thick, so the interviewer could compare them if she wanted to, left that stack with her. Really couldn’t add much to that for the I-751 except for a couple of joint IRS returns, we were already married for over a year when they got their first temporary permanent residents cards, love that term. So I just sent in duplicates of what they already have to make a complete package.

Thinking back, my step daughter was a little girl when we first got married, now she is a full grown woman, wonder if she will be a grandmother when the I-751 is complete? My wife and daughter would like to vote, one of these days, both have paid a lot of taxes.



MELHAM

Hi guys!!

I have an experience last 2004 , me and my daughter had finger prints (NY) and after that i never heared from them (this is for my first 2 yr green card) i kept on going to INS they always say” Name check” but i did not stop going every 2 mos after many months I moved to NJ and I informed them personally and they told me that my recors was transferred to CA, but that was only for me, i did not hear for my daughters record, i presumed that our papers were together.

I received a notice for interview and this time in Newark-NJ , 2006 (2 yrs after imagine that!) finally our passport were stamped…and we received our greencard 2 weeks later…after 3 months my daughter received a notice cancelling her stamp..due to the reason that her biometrics were never received from NY, gthat the officer got a mistake, presumming that our record were together (same as what i thought). The reason was THE BIOMETRIC WAS NEVER SUBMITTED TO THE INS..FROM THE BIOMETRIC CENTER (THE PLACE WHERE WE HAD OUR FINGER PRINTS) but during the biometrics the assiatant were so nice…but he/they never submitted. was it intentional to sabotage? i dont know

So the officer decided to make a request for a second biometric , the officer was do apologetic for the mistake in stamping but in return she helped us.

SO, submission of biometric is the cause of delay…I feel its a RANDOM where they delay submitting biometric.

So my daughters’ greecard expiration now are separate from mine, I just had my finger printing 1-18-08, I filed last 11-4-07…my daughter has to file her I-751 this 2-16-08 3 mos away…

Hopefully this time my biometric will be submitted. I forgot to mention ours is from VSC this time.



gigi

hi i submitted my I-751 to texas service center but got the letter of 1year extension for my greencard from vermont service center is this a good or a bad thing?



MELHAM

GIGI,

I think Vermont is better than Texas based on what i read on their testimonies



Kev

Hi I just got my notice from Texas they bypass my papers to Vermont , my concern is how long is it gonna take from now on another 6 months , I wanna join national guard and they do not accept extention of extention as well, or a little stamp out of nowhere in my damn passport, does anyone know how long does it take @ Vermont



MELHAM

Kev,

That’s the issue here…we dont know no definite time mostly takes 8 months to a year or more good luck!



anonymous fed

whoever said that using the government’s security clearance process would be more effective is smoking dope. you think paying $500 for the i-751 application is a ripoff? it costs over $5,000 per person to do a background investigation for top secret. those personal interviews with your neighbors take time and money. the backlog for getting a security clearance is much, much worse than for the i-751… over a year in some cases.



NickD

“whoever said that using the government’s security clearance process would be more effective is smoking dope. you think paying $500 for the i-751 application is a ripoff?”

As a veteran of a foreign war with a top secret clearance, what does this have to do with an I-751 application? And what immigrant is going to receive a top secret clearance in the application process? And what about the initial I-485 application that understandably took some time?

The only function of the I-751 is for immigrants that have been married for less than two years just to make sure that marriage was not for the sole purpose of bring an alien into this country and the requested information is the same as the initial application.

Even with loopholes that if either married party claims physical or mental abuse, a divorce is acceptable. There are no such reasons for divorce in my state.

And why does the I-751 explicitly state to send your application in 90 days before the expiration of your spouses PRC to allow for processing when it is taking well over 18 months?

Are you really a fed? I doubt it.

Just happen to meet the woman of my dreams in a foreign country, it cost me over $12,000.00 to bring her here and have the receipts to prove that, and I do not regret that or even complain about it. Nor do I complain about the fees, but I see no sense in these long delays.

As I wrote to the NSCIS, they are welcomed to come and visit us, even spend a month or more if they want to.



NickD

Here’s a copy of a letter I received from my immigration attorney that I would like to share with my friends here, he is a member of the top immigration law firm in the USA, the very best after a long research.

“I have reviewed the materials that you sent me as well as the laws that
apply. Unfortunately, there is no way that we can expedite the processing
of the I-751. Your wife and daughter, however, will remain in status as
long as it is pending. If they need to get work or travel permits after the
their conditional resident cards expire, they would need to make an
appointment with the local office (this can be done through at:
Http://infopass.uscis.gov/index.php).

As to filing the naturalization case, they do typically take a year or so to
process. You can, however, file for a naturalization while the I-751 is
pending. It just will not be approved until after the I-751 is dealt with.

please let me know if you have any additional questions. ”

They can’t do anything either with the I-751′s, but we plan on going ahead with the N-400 as that is also a very long wait.

Our daughter can get instant USA citizenship by joining the National Guard, two of her friends did, but are being shipped to Iraq when they were told this would never happen. She is afraid to go there and I am not sure why they are sending little girls there.

In my days, the women stayed home, can’t get use to this, we were big tough men, ha, still are. My neighbor is also a tiny woman slated to go, also a member of the guard, but got her medical training with money from the guard, she is a doctor. The rest of these girls are going to Texas for MP training, that doesn’t make sense to me. Hell, I will go, but they say I am too old, but still a lot tougher than my little girl.



Kev

Hey Guys,

Real good news, VSC is real fast, They sent me a notice telling that my case will be processes in 15 days for removal of cond. Unbelievable, isn’t it. You ll get yours soon.



MELHAM

kev,

congratulations!! mine was submitted to Vermont too last Nov.and had my biometrics last January 08 hopefully it will be sooner too. thanks.



KC

My petition, sent to and received by Texas on 16th March 2007, was transferred to the slowest service center at the end of Jan – Vermont.

As of Jan 15th, they were processing cases from 3/1/07.

Today, they updated their dates. Now as of Feb 15th, they were processing cases from… wait for it… 3/1/07.

They’ve processed exactly 0 days of I-751 petitions in a month.

BTW it took them 22 days from Texas sending the petition to Vermont for Vermont to receive it. Now I know USPS are pretty slow, but still…



NickD

Nebraska went from 01/28/07 in November to 02/09/07 in December to 02/10/07 in January, back to 07/05/06 in February. That is exactly not progress. They claim due to the high rate increases they received many applications in July 2007, but if it is on a first come first serve basis, why should this delay an application that was filed seven months before that date? Also what do the rates have to do with one files, by law, you have to file before your spouses PPR expires. Recently half the time I get into the Nebraska site, the dates are in the Polish language, the other half in English. Just the dates, the rest is in English.

The NSCIS says not to contact them for your case status until your processing dates show up on these sites.

While the NSCIS is doing nothing about the illegals, sorry undocumented persons, our state is cracking down on undocumented persons, my wife and daughter can get deported. It’s a strain, and I really do not know what to do. I did hire one of the finest immigration law firms in the country as parts of the initial forms were Greek to me, and they already have almost a two inch stack of information on all of us, all notarized and/or certified. And that took almost a year. What’s going on now is just not making sense.



betty

mine was submitted to vermont too and i got my fingerprinting feb18 was wondering if any of you got the greencard 10 years without any interview?



Julie

I filed I 751 in June 2007. It is being processed in Nebraska. I’ve been checking on the processing dates and for a while they were showing the date of February 07, so I assumend it will take them several more months to process my case. I checked the status of the processing dates and now it shows that they are processing cases from JULY 05 2006???? I am so confused. Any comments?



Maria

Thank you so much for such wonderful information!
I am a US Citizen who fell in love with a Mexican when he traveled to my city on business after we had already met during one of my business trips to his city!

I was despairing yesterday when I was reminded to ask my spouse when his conditional card expires..and he told me July. I know deportation of Mexicans is an everyday occurrence as of late, and we live with the angst of his papers looming over our head.
I now know we have time to apply, and thanks to this blog: we have much helpful information on how to do it!

I do have some questions..and would appreciate someone answering them. Thanks.

* Can we apply before the 90 day period (even if just a week ahead… ) or will this be considred ‘not following directions’?

* When can we apply for the N-400: is it after three years of marriage, or after three years of having received the conditional/provisional permanent resident card?

* What will we need to do as we have plans to travel overseas a few months after his card expires (and it looks like it takes TOO long before receiving the permanent card?

*We are not clear in regard to the statement on the USCIS form: “affidavits must be supported by other types of evidence listed above”. Short of photos…what else can family and friends provide as “evidence”?

*and finally…. what is an NOA1?

Thanks for this blog and everyone’s time.



NickD

I wish I applied a year ahead not knowing how long it takes, I sent ours in precisely 90 days before the expiration date. Posted above someplace on the affidavits.

My attorney tells me we can apply for the N-400 while the I-751 is pending, also a very long wait, but they go by their PRC dates rather than the marriage dates. Wife could have voted last Tuesday if the NSCIS was more timely, she is certainly paying a ton of taxes.

Ha, how about a ruling that a person doesn’t have to pay any FICA , state or federal income tax until they get their card, that way they will get their card in two minutes.

Believe NOA stands for notice of arrival, first after two weeks we received the one year extension, what the hell is this about? If they can take the time to send the extension, why not just send the card? Then three weeks later a notice to have the biometrics done. Hmmm everything is moving quick. Then a year of nothing, did they forget about us? But not for taxes, IRS sent her all kinds of stuff about taxes and the law.

We did travel abroad with her extension, but I was with her, a veteran of a foreign war, they treated her nice, they better. Her friend traveling alone was given hell being delayed four hours with a strip down inspection.

I just finished with our taxes and going to feel out the N-400 next. My wife speaks, reads, and writes English very well, but with the civics portions, looking more at the ideals of this country than what we see on the news.



Fanny

Hi I’d like to thank everyone contributing to this page all of the information is extremely helpfull.
I have a question though, my husband got a stamp on his passport when we went to the interview the first time. This was granting him the condicional permanent residency. That was on 8/4/06. His green card expires in August this year but i noticed the stamp they put in his passport expired last year.

Since he had a green card with a two yr expiration date i fig. it wasn’t important. Am I wrong?
This whole business is making me lose sleep I hope I can file everything correctly.
Thanks for all your help



MELHAM

I think the officer just stamped incorrectly.



Fanny

Thanks Melham I hope you’re right. I hope everything goes well!



NickD

All I know regardless of that stamp, if it’s other than a USA passport, they won’t let you back in the USA unless you have a valid PRC or a Visa. In our case an expired PRC with the one year extension with a comment from the officer, yes, I know, they are slow.

Why do they call it a green card, it ain’t green.



TED

HI EVERYONE MY I-751 PENDING ON VSC OVER ONE YEAR NOW I FILED 1-18-2007 AND I GOT BIO-M AND EXTENSION LETTER ON 1-24-2007 UNTIL THAT TIME IT WAS PRETTY FAST… AND I CONTECT INS 10-25-2007 I TOLD THEM MY CASE IS OUTSIDE OF NOMAL PROSESSING TIME AND THEY SENT LETTER TO ME IT’S STILL PENDING BECAUSE MY BACKGROUND CHECK IS NOT DONE YET.ALSO THEY SAID I HAVE TO WAIT 6 MORE MONTH BEFOR CONTECT WITH INS.. NOW ITS OVER 1YEAR IAM STILL WAITTING……..
I’M REALLY WORRY ABOUT MY CASE NOW. ANYBODY HAS ANY IDEA ?? HELP ME OUT PLEASE…..
I JUST GOT STAMP FOR ANOTHER YEAR EXTENSION..
STILL NOTHING….WAITING……



NickD

Ted, tell me more about your stamp, with the original I-797 with the one year’s extension notice, useless by itself, also need your expired PRC with the date on it. Exactly what did they stamp and is there a date on it?

What does that stamp say?

And what did you have to go through to get that stamp? Was it done via mail, or did you have to make a trip into your nearest field office?

It’s a 450 mile round trip for us with the potential for some pretty nasty weather.

But at least you are good for another year of waiting.

I thought we already underwent a background check for the original application, sounds like a weak excuse to me. My immigration attorney, senator, and governor are all helpless in this matter, but now will just settle for a stamp.

Was told the same thing when I applied for a passport last year, background check, what the heck in lieu of a cuss word. Brought in tons of information to my clerk of court that knew me for the last 30 years. All certified and documented, but the reason for the delay in getting my passport was a background check.

Back then before computers this was done quickly when I received my top secret clearance in the military, today, everything takes forever.

At the advice of my attorney filing the N-400, can’t the NSCIS hire someone that know proper grammar that can write a simple clear question? Questions are so ambiguous, takes a mind reader to guess what they are asking. Then you have to find a M-477 to get the rest of the information, nothing in the N-400 said you have to send in another ton of documentation that the NSCIS already has. While the M-477 shows a sample filled out form and is dated February 2008, the form they filled out in the book is an old one, with clear simple to answer questions.

Here we go again, asked my wife if we should move to Canada, getting a very low opinion of a country I had to lay down my life for.



MELHAM

Ted,
Through my experiences of my delay if you read my testimonies above…. My Biometrics was not submitted but when I follow up to INS they keep on telling me the delay was because of Name check.”.then I found out later , my biometric was sabotage (not submitted) it was good the officer helped my daughter to have another biometric.



NickD

According to the USCIS site only these forms require a background check.

# I-485, Application to Register Permanent Residence or Adjust Status;
# I-601, Application for Waiver of Ground of Inadmissibility;
# I-687, Application for Status as a Temporary Resident Under Section 245A of the Immigration and Nationality Act; and
# I-698, Application to Adjust from Temporary to Permanent Resident (Under Section 245A of Public Law 99-603).

The only form that would apply to us is the I-485, our spouses already had a background check. Nothing about background checks with the I-751.

We got good service in 2004, applications were sent in November, wife got her work permit in February so she could apply for a SS card, find a job, and get her drivers license. Then she got her temporary permanent resident card in June, and that was with a background check.

I thought the I-751 would be a snap, they already have all that information on us.

My wife and I made a very sincere commitment to each other and she had to leave everything she worked hard for behind. I did buy her a new car, put her on my checking and savings accounts, and my paid off nice home also in her name. Did have problems with a bank I have been dealing with for years as to their poor interpretation of the American Patriot Act. No problem, found a different and a much better bank in a matter of minutes.

I didn’t do this to appease the NSCIS, I did this because I really care for my wife, she is one in a million for me, make that one in a billion. And I also care about her welfare, not something one would do to bring an alien into this country.

This I-751 should be a snap, but it’s turning out to be a nightmare. About the only thing I could add is four letters of affidavits and just copies of everything else. I had my attorney check over all the forms and everything else we sent. If they wanted a hundred affidavits, could have provided that too, all of our friends and relatives can see how happy we have been and are together.

Now getting that stamp is our main goal, time is running out, quick. If Ted managed to do that, would like to know how, please!



KyleB

Hi Everyone,

Great source for information!

I have a question.

My wife has her conditional green card which is expired, but we have the one-year extension when we filed the I-751. We are currently temporarily living in Japan, but will be moving back to America early this summer.
My problem is her 1 year extension will be expiring at the end of April. Do we need to go back to the states to maintain her status? Is there an extra year extension automatically since we haven’t received her new green card? We also applied for a re-entry permit before we left the US, but it hasn’t been processed completely yet. Will that help in any way?

Any help is greatly appreciated!



MELHAM

my daughter just filed her -i-751 last Feb 25 and we received immediately her biometric notice..I am wondering why not the extention first…..Im sure this happened to some there is no extention notice but only biometric schedule..anyone can comment ? is she still be receiving for her extention notice?



KyleB

Melham,

She should be receiving her notice. It took about 4-5 months before we actually received our one year extension notice. We were through with all the biometrics stuff well before we got the notice.



TED

THANKS GUYS.

MY TEMP.G.C. EXPIRED ON 3/17/2007 AND I GOT I-797 ONE YEAR EXTENSION LETTER.
THAT LETTER WILL BE EXPIRE ON 3/17/2008 SO I MADE INFORPASS APPOINTMENT A MONTH AGO. THAT WAS PRETTY GOOD SYSTEM, U MAKE AN APPOINTMENT LOCAL OFFICE BY URSELF AND PICK DAY WHATEVER THEY AVAILAVAL DATE. IT TAKES JUST 5 MIN. FOR EVERYTHING UNTIL I GOT I-551 STAMPON MY PASSPORT IN THE OFFICE.
SO I GOT ANOTHER YEAR EXTENSION NOW.

LAST YEAR OCTOBER I RECEIVE LETTER FROM INS….

‘ The processing of your case has been delayed. A check of our records establishes that your case is not yet ready for decision, as the required investigation into your background remains open.

Until the background investigation is completed, we cannot move forward on your case……….
…. If you do not receive a decision or other notice of action from us within 6months of this letter, please contact us by calling our customer service .’

IS ANYBODY RECEIVED THAT KIND OF LETTER FROM INS? FOR I-751.
MY LAYER DIDN’T DO NOTHING, HE JUST SAYING I GOT TO WAIT.

I DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY IT TAKES SO LONG, I AM BEING WITH MY WIFE AND I SENT ALL DOCUMENTS THEY WANT.

NEXT MONTH WILL BE 6 MONTH AFTER I GOT THAT LETTER,, HOPE APPROVE LETTER BEFOR NEXT MONTH…… HOPE…………. PRAY EVERYDAY……



NickD

They certainly put us in a state of limbo, but not as slow as Venezuela, even though my wife is a permanent resident of this country, she can’t get a US Passport. So over three years ago we had to go to their consulate office in Chicago for her to renew her passport that was about to expire. First we had to register our marriage in Venezuela that required our original marriage certificate to go through their notaria procedure before it was accepted as an official document. That was a pain in the butt, expensive, and time consuming.

Then we made an appointment, took over seven hours for them to type out the application, we had all the information. But they never asked for my wife’s naturalization number. Just yesterday we get a letter from them saying our registration is invalid and therefore so is her passport. I immediately sent them that nine digit number.

Over three years! I do not see why the USA can’t issue even a temporary passport to a permanent resident, this gives us two countries to deal with, both slower than hell.

The N-400 is just like the I-751 with a stated 90 day waiting time, wife would have already been a US citizen if done in a timely manner, but now she, as well as me are in a state of limbo. My wife feels very awkward to say the least.

A background check on the I-751? Why doesn’t the NSCIS site say so, and why for the I-751? The I-485 certainly makes sense, why even issue a permanent resident card before a background check?

Well it looks like another 450 mile trip to the nearest field office, still like to look at the immigration papers for my grandfather. Millions of people were coming here in the 19th century, all neatly typed out by hand. From the day he entered this country, took him three months to become a US citizen. With computers, seems like that time frame has increased to over five years. Maybe they should go back and to everything by hand.



Phillip

I was also shocked by the backward dates of the Nebraska Service this month. I have a one year extension, what if it doesn’t get approved by then? Go to local office for a stamp in my passport? I propose we all write letters to congressmen and representatives. I will, if my case is stuck.Waiting is like living on a powder cake!



KC

Nick D:

From http://www.murthy.com/news/ukmemo.html

Once the I-751 is filed, the USCIS issues a Form I-797 Notice of Action (Receipt Notice) that extends the person’s conditional permanent resident status for one year. This Notice states that work and travel are authorized.

Under the December 2, 2003 Memo, a person who presents an expired I-551 (green card) and the above-described Form I-797 that is expired or will soon expire, may obtain a temporary evidence of I-551 stamp in his/her valid passport. The stamp will have a 12-month expiration date. The stamp is valid for work and travel purposes, just like the green card. If the person does not have a valid passport, an I-94 card with his or her photograph, containing the 12-month I-551 stamp, may be obtained. Prior to this Memo, there was some question of what happened to the conditional permanent resident if there was no decision on the I-751 prior to the expiration of the one-year extension period stated on the Receipt Notice. In our experience at The Law Office of Sheela Murthy, P.C., the district offices normally acted in a way was consistent with the Memo’s directives.

The regulations provide that a person’s conditional permanent residence is extended automatically until the I-751 is adjudicated. While faster adjudications of I-751s would be preferable, we appreciate the efforts made by the USCIS to provide those with valid extensions of conditional permanent residence with the proof they need to work and travel.

I’m going to get the stamp in my passport this week as well, due to my NOA expiring at the end of March. Will let you know what else I find out.



NickD

“may obtain a temporary evidence of I-551 stamp in his/her valid passport.”

That was my point, having a valid passport from the person’s home country. While that person is a permanent resident of the USA, the USA will not issue a passport to that person until they become a USA citizen. And their home country may not be willing to issue a passport to that person, because in their eyes, that person is a defector, traitor, or whatever name you want to give to that person in allegiance to their native country.

When we went to my wife’s home country consulate, they weren’t exactly friendly to her, while we were the only ones there, they kept us waiting for hours, even though we made an appointment well in advance and were rather rude toward us. We had to force ourselves to be patient and super nice.

But she did get her passport from a foreign country to the USA and her passport did get stamped by the USA NSCIS.

Wife is not exactly an orphan, she does have family, and a wonderful family, hard working honest people just trying to struggle to earn a living and survive like we are here.

And it was awkward traveling together, she with a Venezuelan passport, and I her husband with a USA passport.

Love is strange, in checking our roots, my wife’s and my grandparents lived very close together in the old country. My grandparents happened to get on a boat to North, while her grandparents happened to get on boat to South America.

And just as easy a foreign country can issue a passport, they can pull it, that is our concern right now. On one hand my wife is permanent resident of the USA, just like your spouse, on the other, needs a passport from her home country. Think about that for awhile.

We have also met all the requirements for her to become a USA citizen, but there are delays, and it’s these delays that are killing us as well as the rest of you. What else can do we, except wait and pray?

My wife didn’t see her son for over three years that is essentially stuck in Venezuela, a wonderful young man that I am honored to be called his step dad. But we can’t do a thing to bring him here, I have a large home, until she gets here US citizenship.

We suffer whenever that leader gives threats, hey, we are talking about my family! My step son is not a threat!

Just hit me like a tons of bricks, why can’t a USA permanent resident at least be issued a temporary USA passport?



susan

This is an amazing thread with tons of helpful information. I married my husband in India and the wait time for getting our marriage approved there was already 4 months with multiple trips to the magistrate. If we weren’t serious we would never have done it. Then getting his green card initially was more paperwork and waiting … and now, he has a chance for a great job in Calif. but the lawyer advised us he can’t go until his green card is renewed (it expires 4/29) and we are all set to file … but I can’t go with him to Calif. until he is settled because I have a good job in NY state. So complicated. Why can’t people live their lives in peace without all this hassle? The lawyer wants $1000 to help us, even though he can’t give us any guarantees at all, and says our case is “difficult” because I didn’t change my name to my husband’s – and because he doesn’t have a good job here. Sigh.
Good luck everyone …



NickD

Doesn’t make sense to me, Susan, if he has a permanent resident card and a valid passport, what is keeping him from coming to the USA? To get his card by marriage, he must have applied for an I-485 with your I-130 partition, plus those other forms.

If his card was conditional like the most of us here because you were married under two years, have to go through that same process again with the I-751.

Not a law that I know of that requires the bride to change her name, my own daughter-in-law didn’t do that when she married her son as she is an MD with an established practice, but they do have a valid marriage certificate.

I was checking my dates again, it took nine days from the time we sent in our I-751 to get a I-797c with both the biometric appointment and the one year extension, that was exactly one year ago. I sent the application overnight with my check and that was deposited by the NSCIS within two days.

Pretty fast, eh, but followed by a year of nothing. We have three months left before her extension expires as that is based on the date of her PRC expiration.

Suggest you find a different attorney.



susan

Thanks, Nick. I’m speaking with a second attorney soon – hopefully will get a better recommendation. I may not have been clear. My husband got his original green card – no problem. We’re filing for the renewal. The problem is the job – he has a part time crummy job here (NY state) but a good full-time job offer from Calif. where his sister lives. The plan was for him to go out there first and see how it worked, and for me to follow if things look good. My job here is ideal, so I don’t want to make a change on a risk. He is not happy here without proper work. That’s the way life goes. My problem is, the lawyer says we have to live together for all the time that the renewal process is going on (which could be a year – or more, judging from your experience). It’s quite depressing for us. I’ll let you know how it works out.



NickD

Susan, these are some of the reasons the I-751 gives for the conditional resident to still apply for a permanent residency.

“If you were granted conditional resident status through marriage to a U.S. citizen or permanent resident, use this form to petition for the removal of those conditions.If you are still married, the petition should be filed jointly by you and the spouse through whom you obtained conditional status.However, you may apply for a waiver of this joint filing requirement if:

You entered the marriage in good faith, but your spouse subsequently died;

You entered the marriage in good faith, but the marriage was later terminated due to divorce or annulment;

The termination of your status and removal would result in extreme hardship.

You entered the marriage in good faith and have remained married, but have been battered or subjected to extreme cruelty by your U.S. citizen or permanent resident spouse;

or; The termination of your status and removal would result in extreme hardship.”

Granted, none of these would apply to your husband, but trying to seek employment due to our poor economy in other parts of the country hardly sounds severe as those listed above. But I am not in the position to give legal advice, could share my attorney with you if you like.



susan

Thanks, Nick. I’ve read all that, too. My contact with a second lawyer was also disappointing. He advises that we should stick together here and do our best to make ends meet, rather than try to file separately. The main reason is because he has no job yet – it’s only the promise of a job. So filing separately won’t give him any advantages. So we’re going to go ahead and file, hope we get some answer before 6 months! And then, if the Calif. job is still open, we can explore that. The government is inscrutable. Thanks for all your advice.



NickD

Can only think about the good old days, like 20 years ago when high tech companies would fly a person out for an interview, and if hired would pay his/her moving expenses to move out there plus help them find a place to live. Instead all these jobs went to China and other Asian countries.

Susan, not that it makes any difference, you still have me confused. Aren’t you a US citizen? And aren’t we talking about the I-751 that removes conditional residence for an alien spouse?

If so, only your spouse sends in the application and signs it, you can do the cover letter and supply all of the supporting documentation. Do not believe there is such a thing as filing separately. If called in for an interview, does make a big difference if you go in with your spouse, purpose of the I-751 is just to give assurance to the NSCIS that you didn’t just marry a person to bring them into this country.



KC

Nick D:

In response to your reply on March 8, your wife should have no problem extending her permanent resident status while waiting for the I-751 petition.

As mentioned before: “If the person does not have a valid passport, an I-94 card with his or her photograph, containing the 12-month I-551 stamp, may be obtained.”

I got the I-551 stamp in my passport yesterday (3/11) and it’s extended to authorize work and travel in combination with the now expired conditional Green Card/PRC until the I-751 has been processed. While I was there I asked and if I didn’t have a passport, they would, as mentioned above, stamp an I-94 (the same I-94 tourists get if coming from a country with a visa waiver agreement – UK, Europe etc.) with the I-551. He said the most important thing is the PRC. Even though it’s expired, our status remains the same, we’re still permanent residents until someone dictates otherwise.

Hope this helps.



KC

P.s. I would check with the USCIS number first to confirm this is the case at all field offices. It’s a nightmare to get through to a person – just choose the option to change address and you get a live person… They don’t like it much, but if you pretend you chose the wrong option or pressed the wrong button on your phone, they usually become more helpful. My I-551 was done at Tampa, FL field office and took about 10 mins.



NickD

Thank you KC, just to clarify, my wife and daughter did receive a one year extension via a I-797C form after our I-751 application. But that is about to expire, so here we go again!

I did talk to my senator’s office today, it appears that the Nebraska Service Center is no long processing I-751′s and all these files were transferred to the California Office which was the reason the NSC back dated the processing dates.

Would have been nice if they said that instead. But with the CSC dates, we should have received notice by now, so they are making an inquiry for us. Should know something in two weeks. See what happens.

Read that Emilio Gonzalez, the head of the USCIS, hmmm, wasn’t that the NSCIS, or the INS, or the NSC(?), whatever, reported to congress the average wait now is six months for processing. We must have been dropped by the wayside someplace.



Danielle

We need to file form I-751 for my husband soon. The directions indicate that two completed fingerprint cards (form FD -258) are required. Can anyone comment on this? I didn’t see them listed in the writer’s list of things they included with their application. I’m curious as to how this works and why it’s necessary. Does it mean that we need to make an appointment with the local USCIS service center for fingerprinting (the other option is a military establishment) in order to send the application, even though a Biometrics exam comes after the petition is filed?

Any advice/info will be greatly appreciated. It’s nice to know other people have gone/are going through the same long and complicated process! Thanks.



NickD

Believe I read about that option if your circumstances dictate that you can do that. Wish we could have gone to our local police station for fingerprints, they are standing around doing nothing anyway, and sent in a couple of passport type photos with certified copies of their PRC’s.

Instead, we were directed to a field office that was a ten hour round trip drive for us, sit on folding chairs for an hour before we were called in for five minutes of fingerprints and photos. That was a very long day.

Have to do that for the I-485, the I-751, and again for the N-400. For filling out the I-751 used Adobe Arcobat 8 and copied and pasted information from the I-485 and the G-425A, same for the N-400, same questions, same answers.

Ha, commented to my wife the USCIS is giving me a reason to murder both of our ex’s as it would be much easier to copy a death certificate, one sheet instead of some 50 odd sheets for our old divorce papers.

Same old questions, same old supporting documentation, can only imagine the huge stack of paper the service centers must have. Isn’t there a paperwork reduction act?



KC

Please all see the folliwnh site:

http://www.visajourney.com/timeline/liftlist.php?op5=5,9,10,11,12

Some timelines for removal of conditions. It appears some have filed this year and already got approved…. this really makes NO sense!



LUCKY

hello.
VERY HELPFULL INFORMATION. I AM ABOUT TO SEND MY I-751 BEFORE 03-31-2008 MY GC EXPIRES 06-22-2008. I HOPE EVERYTHING WORKS FAST.

I READ SO MANY EXPERIENCES,OF HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE….THAT PRINTS WERE FAST… THAT THE NAME IS INCORRECT….ETC…ETC… I REALLY HOPE I AM LUCKY ENOUGH AND MY PROCESS IS FAST.

I HAVE ALMOST ALL THE DOCUMENTS, ETC.. WE DONT HAVE TO MANY PHOTOS AT ALL, WE REALLY DONT TAKE PICTURES I HOPE THERE IS NOT AN ISSUE HERE. BUT WE HAVE 2 CARS UNDER MY NAME MY HUSBAND CREDIT WAS TO BAD AT THE TIME WE BOUGHT THE CARS. WE HAVE BANK ACCOUNT, INSURANCE, LEASING APARTMENT. WE DONT HAVE ANY CREDIT CARDS TOGETHER AGAIN HUSBAND VERY BAD CREDIT….EACH OF US KEEP OUR CREDIT CARDS SEPARATELY.

I HAVE 2 AFFIDAVITS ETC… PLUS MY MARRIAGE IS NOT WELL SO FAR…. BUT WE ARE GOING TO FILE JOINTLY.

ANY OPINIONS?



JULIANA

Hello everyone,

I posted my first comment back in December. I filed in July 07 and I recently received a notice that is bothering me and I just don’t know if to seek a lawyers advice. I just hate to spend the money unless I trully have to.

I received a letter saying that the information I submitted was not sufficient for them to process my application but I submitted basically everything I had.

I have to respond by April 7th and I’m not sure how to proceed. Living in NYC, health insurance is pretty expensive but I guess I will have to place my husband on the insurance ($400+). Do you guys think they will have a problem if the effective date on the insurance is after March 08?

Also, we opened up a life insurance policy together but just over 1 month ago.

What i am worried about is that they will find this information too current. But what else can I submit. They specifically request NO COPIES OF PREVIOUS DOCUMENTS.

Need your help guys

Thank for the advice



NickD

Marriage, money, hiring an attorney, or even sending proof is not my problem. Problem is trying to keep my wife’s passport valid after four years of being here in a foreign country that the USCIS unreasonably expects you to have and keep valid while you are living here.

Wow, you applied in July 2007 and got a response already, you must have been born under a lucky star. We are way ahead of you with zero from the USCIS.

I send in copies of my wife’s, daughter, and my drivers license, health insurance, life, and car insurance, three years of joint IRS and state tax returns, copies of our joint savings and checking accounts, our property tax bills with her name on it, the deed to our home, four notarized with I swear the preceding is true notarized and could have sent in 200 of these, grade transcripts of our daughter with our address clearly on these, car titles, credit card statements, and other utility bills, some junk mail with addressed to my wife and daughter, could have sent a box of that crap, photo ID’s, and what else can I send as proof that we are living together.

Paid an attorney to look over everything before I sent it in, but not a word, not a single word from the USCIS.

Are they really serious about this 90 day thing? Now confusion as to whether our application is in Nebraska or California. Thinking now about sending in the same thing again with a check for 625 bucks, seems like a lot of folks that sent their applications in way after us are getting responses, getting a bit teed off.



timbo

Gathered all the papers that they have listed to file. Just about to send my stuff in.
Does anyone have a list off “stuff” that have been sent with successful feedback? Just trying to check and make sure I’ve got everything I could.

Affidavits, lease on apt, pictures, insurances(car and health), car purchase, credit card bill payments, joint tax fillings for past 3 years.

we do have separate bank accounts. just a consious decision on our part.( problem???) We have joint IRA account.

Any suggestions what else I need to add?

Wow wait time definitely bad. But at least it is good to know if it happens to me it won’t be abnormal.

Thank you. Good Luck.



MELHAM

timbo.

I think you have all the important doc, but how about testimonies from friends who know both of you as husband and wife a 1 or 2 letters is enough to help though some says its not that impt, but nothing to loose if you include them.-



KC

So… USCIS finally updated their dates last night (the longest it’s taken them to post updates since I started looking at them over a year ago.

On Jan 15th, Vermont were processing cases received March 1 2007.

On Feb 15th, Vermont were STILL processing cases received March 1 2007.

On March 15th, Vermont were processing cases received February 2nd 2007!!!!

Did we go back in time or am I missing something?

Our petition was originally filed with Texas on March 16th. Texas dates have been around March/April 2007 since August last year.

Then on Jan 31 2008, they decided to send it (and a lot of other Texas filer’s petitions according to visajourney.com) to Vermont who are behind Texas filing dates.

Now Vermont are going backwards! What the hell?!

I strongly urge people in the same or a similar situation to contact their Senator and/or Congressman and tell them about this, this site, the visajourney site and ask how the USCIS can claim to process cases on a first come first servved basis as they are not.



KC

Okay, maybe I should have checked the status of Texas Service center aswell.

Theirs went backwards as well. Processing cases Feb 15, 2007. On August 15 2007 Texas was processing cases from March 18 or 19 2007, so in 7 months they’ve processed minus 30 or so days of cases.

Meanwhile, California is rolling along and is now processing cases September 17 2007.



timbo

Melhan

I will include my friends statements with papers to send. Thank you for the reply.

This site has been helpful. One of my best friends he filed his papers at the end of Oct. 07 beginning Nov 07 and got his extended GC first week of march 08. He also filled in Texas. Lucky guy.



Kev

i got my new card from VSC today. I was one of the guys transfered from Texas 2 Vermont @ 31th Jan. Good luck 2 ya all. I dont have 2 deal with these dudes for the next 10 years. I will wait for couple of years for citizenship because they are damn slow these days, I think after a year everything is gonna be fine and petition for citizenship will take couple of months like it used 2 be, nowadays it takes 4ever



Kev

i guess everybody got it, so nobody replies, good luck ya all.



susan

Congratulations, Kev! Great news for you! We got our receipt last week – filed a week earlier. Now waiting for the biometric appointment … how long will that take? Anybody know? (We’re filing at Vermont.)



joe

KEV, congrats for your new card, but i wanna ask you, when was the date that you first sent the application?



TED

HI EVERYONE!!!
FINALLY I BEEN WAIT ONE YEAR AND THREE MONTH… IT WAS LONG LONG VERY PAINFUL TIME….
I JUST GOT APPROVE MAIL TODAY..
THANK YOU GUY ALL
AND THANK GOD!!!!
GOOD LUCK ALL…



Kev

I sent Removal of Conditions petition march 2007 to Texas, then they sent it to Vermont 31th january 2008 , Vermont is pretty quick I wasn’t expecting that soon. And my first application was I don’t remember but I guess it was sometime BC



joe

Thanks Kev, I sent Removal of Conditions petition march 2008 to Texas, and they transfered it to vermot as soon they received it, so I was wondering how long is it going to take.

Thanks.



Patricia

My 2 years Green Card expires this Saturday April 19th, 2008.

I sent in my I-751 application along with 5lbs of supporting documents last week Monday April 7th, 2008.

I-751 application received by USCIS CA Service Center Wednesday April 9th, 2008

I just recieved my NOA today in the mail Tuesday April 15th, 2008.

I am waiting for notice of ASC for biometric processing now. How long will it take?

Did anyone have to go to a 2nd interview?

Does anyone know if my soon to be expired Green Card & NAO is all I need to travel outside the USA?

Your feedback will be greatly appreciated.

Patricia



MELHAM

Patricia,

you did not mention where did you file your documents? Biometric schedule comes normally 2 weeks after the NOA.



NickD

I traveled abroad with my wife with here expired green card, and I-797C extension notice. Ha, no problems leaving the USA, but I believe since I was with her, also very little problems getting back in. Not so with her friend traveling alone under the same circumstances, was stopped for a four hour cross examination and missed her flight. Guess that depends on what kind of dingbat you run into.

We finally got notice that our new ten year green cards are on their way. Can’t believe this is happening.

We sent in the I-751 90 days in advance of her June 27, 2007 expiration date. I did contact our governor, congressman, senator, Ombudsman, a letter to Nebraska that was a wasted stamp, and a letter to California with updated proof that we are still living together. Maybe that last letter was key as some people still four months ahead of us are still waiting.

I already made efforts to update my wife’s and daughter’s foreign passports and learned about the I-551 stamp for travel and work authorization the way things were going. But happy to cancel those preparations.

Do not take that 90 day processing time, still printed on the I-751 form literally, this was a stressful period for us.



MELHAM

nickd,
finally congratulations!! you’ll have it anytime ..almost a year hah…..



KC

Nick D – Congratulations!! I finally got approval last Monday (14th). After 13 months.. Finally… : )



Patricia

Melham,

I filed my I-751 to the California Service Center…thanks for your response…

Did anyone here get a second interview or is it just random?

Patricia



kody

Nick D what did the paper that you got exactly said . because i have filed to NSC 3/28/2008 and then 2 weeks ago i just got a paper saying it has been transferred to CSS but at the top saying Approved removal of conditions…. did you get the same paper or was it diff???



MELHAM

patricia,

i think 2nd interview will be done if they are not satisfied with all the proof that was sent to them for them to approve.



Patricia

Melham,

Thanks for the response. Well I sent in about 10lbs of “proof” I just hope that it is enough.

I just got my biometrics appointment letter today. It is set for SATURDAY May 3rd, 2008.

Seems strange that they are open on a SATURDAY…They are OPEN right?



MELHAM

yes, some are open on Saturday. I notice that the waiting time average nowadays ae almost i year after biometrics.



Jess

I sent in my husband’s 1-751 removal packet on Feb 26, 2008 (it expires April 28, 2008) and to my surprise he got the Biometrics appt on March 19th.. i was thinking that since i never got my extension first, we would get his green card before the old one expires.. but that doesn’t seem to be the case after i was curious enough to check his case on line.. it has been sent to vermont (like a lot of yall’s) we sent it orginally to TX . Has anyone filed in Feb of 2008 and received both the biometrics app and their extension letter too? Im not sure if i should wait or be proactive and call the Vermont center so see when he would get his extension? Any tips or suggestions.. im also worried, because my husband wants to start a new job and his temp card will expire april 28th..

Thanks for lending an ear to my rambling!! :)

Jess
TX



joe

Jess, the same situation happened to me, mine expired april 27/2008, and i never got the extention letter, and in the USCIS page says the they transfered my papers to Vermont, just like you. that’s why I set up an appointment in INFOPASS(you can do it IN USCIS.GOV) to get the Stamp that replace the extention letter. SO I think you have to set up an app. immediatily in INFOPASS to get the stamp. (you husband can work and travel with it)

GOOD LUCK



Jess

Thanks Joe for that suggestion! I will let my husband know. Did you get your Biometrics appt ?



joe

yes Jess, I got it. that’s was the only paper I got. Remember to make an appointment AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.



Timbo

I filed in texas. They’ve received my package on april 16. But I haven’t received anything from them yet.

I ‘ve read that some people’s cases were re-routed to other offices. How can I find out about it if it happened?

If I don’t have a receipt from INS, is there any way I can track my case?



Jess

Timbo,

I dont think you can check on your specific case online thru USCIS since you don’t have a receipt yet on your 1-751, you might just wait until you get either the extension letter or your Biometrics Appt. It took me about 3 weeks from when they received my package to get soemthing from them.

what you can do is log on to the USCIS.gov page and check under the service center that you sent your package to and you can see an overal view of the process of your 1-751. I believe in TExas their currently completing cases in June of 2007.. so that is a way to see something on your behalf until you get a notice… i hope this helps.. and we feel your frustation! :)



Jess

Go to uscis.gov, the click on Processing times, then click on Field offices, click the state that you sent it to and then click on processing times. you then have a drop down menu that lets your check the processing time on any service center and see how fast they are moving or not !..



Fanny

Hi everyone, I’m preparing the I-751 for my husband but I had a couple of questions: Do I need to provide 2 passport photos? and Do I have to provide something like picture ID’s for the affidavits from my friends since the intstructions for the I-751 say “Affidavits must be supported by other types of evidence listed above”?

Thanks for everyone’s help.



jv

Hi all,

This information was really helpful. I need serious suggestion from you all. Me and my husband are living a very happy family with a 15 months old baby. I am permanent resident and my husband is US citizen. My card was expiring in march 13th 2008. But it just slipped out from our mind to file I 751 due to some stress. We just filed it yesterday jointly with an explaination that why we were late. But in that filing we forgot to put evidence of relationship. As we were under the impression that we needs to send it after we get receipt. We write down the reason that we both did not had an employement from june07 to dec07. Then starting of this year we both were on probation and its really stressed condition. So in that stress it just sliped out from the mind that we were suppose to file. Other thing is that we moved in different apt. But forgot to change an address with USCIS. So I dont know wheather they send me any type of correspondence after my GC expired. I need serious help from you guys. Any suggestions please????????????



Jess

JV,

Im sorry to hear all the troubles your going through. If you sent in your packet with an explanation on why it wasn’t sent on time that is for the Immigration to figure out. All i know is if you dont file on time most of the time you get a deportation letter. That’s what the instructions on the 1-751 mentioned. which is why they want you to file 90 before your card expires. I would either get some legal help if you dont have the money then there are legal aids you can go throuh. You want to be well informed with someone who knows the law to see what things are going to look like. Also if you moved, then you need to call USCIS or do it online and your address immediately so you can get all your correspondence. If you did not send your proof of relationship, do it now! don’t wait for a receipt because you wont get one, you will get something saying that its no accepatable. send it now to them.

I hope this helps



Jess

Fanny,

when i sent in my affidavits, i had them state whether they were a citizen or a resident of this country on their affidavits and had them give to me either a copy of their resident card or their naturilized paperwork, if they were born here i had them give me a copy of their birth certificate and their ID.

Pretty much treat it like an I-9, proof of identity (picture id) and their status in this country ( resident card or birth certificate or naturilized card or document) i submitted that for each affidavit. its better to be safe than sorry.

Hope that helps



jv

Jess,

Thankyou very much for all your time. I tried to call USCIS and ask to send papers now then they said not to send until I get receipt number. Do you think so I needs to make an appointment with Infopass? Let me know. I dont know whether I got deportation letter or not bcoz we changed our address more than a year. So please help me what to do?



Truman

Hey People,

How do you guys know whether your case was transfered to a different office?

I think I sent my I-751 case to NE, and I’ve got NOA. I also completed my fingerprinting BIOMETRIC last week.

Finally, Is California office fast? fastest? then, how fast? How can we know?

Thank you all :)

Truman



JD

Hey guys,
you are a wonderful bunch and plz those of you who get ther cards come back and give us an idea of how long it took, also you will give us a ray of hope.

i filed I751 last november 07 in VT, did biometrics shortly after
and since… silence

i was also surprised to see VT office dates go back 1 month. This is creating stress for both i and my wife, but we’re trying to ignore it and go on with our lives. I havent hired an attorney so far cause i didnt feel the need to. Bur from what i’ve read from you guys, and yes i read all ur comments, kev’s happy ending and melham’s wise input and all the rest of you, inspire me with more patience.

so VT is getting slower by the day, how long do u think i should start expecting an answer if i filed last nov 6 mo ago, i’m getting used to the idea of having to go and rerenew my status.
this is depressing and nerve racking



kody

i filed my i-751 on 3-15-07 recived by NSC 3-19-07 biometrics a month later and since then not a word . a month ago transfered to CSS a week ago new card issued and on it’s way. almost 14 month since i applied. tried to be a smart ass and send it a little early they sent it back. i attached 20 diff bills credit cards medica ,water ,elec ,gas ,car insurance , home insurance , mortage , and the 2 affada only hand written by 2 frinds didn’t even notor them . that’s all good luck everybody.



MELHAM

JD

i filed mine too last Nov and had my biometric Jan 2008..and m still waiting. My daughter had her biometrics last Feb 2008…if lucky enough we can have it 8 months but with the experiences like Nick, Kody average of 9-14 months waiting…

what can we do just wait and go on with our normal reoutine, some are really lucky, but i notice that California Sev Center is faster above all.



MELHAM

I forgto to mention that I filed my i-751 in Vermont



Fanny

Hi Jess,

Thank you so much for the advice. It really helps to know that you did that. I will get those documents to support my affidavits.

Again thanks alot!!!



Lucky

Hello guys,

i am so confused now, i filled in TX Uscis recieved on april 24, 2008. today May 08,2008 i received on the mail the NOA my biometrics appt for may 17 2008.

So when i will get my extension letter? or this NOA is my extension letter? Anyone has an experience for this. a similar case. My Green card expires 06-22-2008. Or still have time?

Thanks



Kody

Lucky

read the paper again the 1st one you got it’s an automatic extension for a year as soon as you apply . that’s what happened with me anyway.



Eddy

First of all thank GOD we have internet so all of us can share our stories.

My wife GC is expiring on 08/1/2008 so i sent her application late April “08 to make sure it will get to Mesquite, Texas within the 90 days period.

Application was delivered to TX by USPS on Friday , 05/03/08 but nobody was there ????? so on USPS website tracking stated will be redelivered or left notes ????
i am not sure what is going on here because it is a PO.BOX.
Anyway, i checked the USPS tracking site again on Monday and it said DELIVERED Monday 5/5/08. Both checks (biometric & application fees) were cashed in by 05/07/08.

Let’s see how fast it is for Mesquite, TX ASC compare to the rest of ASC’s.

Thank GOD that they just opened
ASC office in Durham, NC so we dont have to drive all the way to Charlotte just for biometric. We drove 2-3 hrs to Charlotte for my naturalization and her GC with 2 years condition.

Anybody have any experiences dealing with Mesquite, TX ASC ?

Make sure to check USCIS.GOV for the latest of fees, forms and requirements. For 2008 we dont need passport pics anymore.

Thank you all

PS : what is NOA ? Notice Of Application ?



LUCKY

Kody.

Thnaks for the answer. But thatis the first paper I received from them. Today may 9 I check my status online and ofcourse was tranfer to Vermont Center.

And it says… your case was trasnfer to Vermont we sent you anotive of that action on the mail….. Well i have not received anything… so fat my bio appointment will be next saturday may 17….

After that shall I call Uscis to see where is my one year extension?

Please Advice… i am filling nervous…



LUCKY

Sorry for my typos…. to stress with no info.

Is just the first time we applied for my green card, we have to applied 2 time. As we received on the mail a lleter that was case was abandon….. and deportation proceedings

Well we figure out that letter NEVER arrive on the mail and was the appointment for the first interview, so we have to apply for the second time. And ofcourse at the intervie the office ask us what Happend? Well… the letter never arrive on the mail Officer thats why we have to submitt everything again….and ofcourse i got aprove etc… And just recentrly I sent my 1-751

Any comments



Jess

Jv,

If immigration told you to wait for a receipt you should follow what they said, did you mention to them that not all your paperwork was turned in and that the application was incomplete? If so, then do as they say. But getting an appt w/ Infopass wont hurt, If i were you i would do it..

I hope all goes well.. My husbands GC expired on 04/26/2008 but were concious that it will take about 7-12 months to hear back, so its just a waiting game now. We still never got his NOA, with it stating that his card will be extended, we only got his Biometrics letter. So all you who have done your biometrics and no sign of the “extension letter” just be sure that you do have a 1 year extension and to be sure, carry your biometrics letter w/ you.. in case you get stopped or you start a new job or something. our paralegal suggested that.. and that makes me feel better.



Jess

Truman,

you know by going to the uscis.gov website and clicking on “check case online” put in your receipt number and it tells you your status.

I hope this helps



TIMBO

Thank you for your reply, Jess.

My papers have been received on April 16. First week of May I’ve received my Biometrics Appointment letter for may 15.

I ‘ve checked on my status on ucis website. Just like with many Texas filers here, my case has been transfered on April 21 to Vermont. It also states on the web that they have sent me a letter nofifing me of action, which I did not receive.

I think LUCKY is in similar situation.

My card also expired on May 11. Past friday my employer HR department sent me a notice of needing an updated Green Card.

So far I only have print out from UCIS website about my case status and BIometrics letter. In which case, neither of these documents states anything about Status extension.

Did anyone have similar situation or in one right now? Any suggestion will welcomed.



TIMBO

I am also moving next month. How difficult was it to do change of address?

Did anyone had to do change of address during the extention ( i haven’t even got NOA about statu extention. Only biometrics)?

Thank you. This site at least gives a peace of mind. UCIS website is very vague. Other people’s stories and experiences let one know what to expect and how LONG.



Lizzie

Hi!

I sent my I-751 on 05/10, Saturday (through USPS express mail) to be received by USCIS on Monday,05/12/08. My conditional status expires on 05/12/08. I am worried that I am late and will have the consequences of late filing.

Embarrassing to admit, I thought it was 90 days succeeding the expiratioin. I am stressed out… I need some advise.

Thanks!



LUCKY

FOR TIMBO, INFOPASS ASAP, TAKE THE RECEIPT TO THE LOCAL OFFICE AND THEY WILL STAMP YOUR PASSPORT. OR MAYBE WE ARE THE LUCKY ONES TO GET APPROVE FAST. NOT EVEN 2 WEKS I RECEIVED MY FIGENPRINTS SO FAST!!!! IN LESS THAN A MONTH, MY CASE WAS TRANSFER APRIL 28 TO VERMONT AND THE LETTER DATED FOR FIGERPRINTS MAY 3 THAT WAS FAST.

MY GREEN CARD EXPIRES ON JUNE 22 2008 I AM GOING TO WAIT UNTIL END OF MAY IF NOT….. I WILL DO A INFOPASS RIGHT AWAY…

LIZZI YOU JUST FILED ON TIME, IF YOU HAVE A CERTIFIED MAIL THAT THEY RECEIVED ON THE DAY YOUR DEADLINE IT IS OK. IF IS NOT YOU HAVE TO SENT A LETTER WITH A GOOD EXPLANATION WHY YOU FILE LATE. BUT IF THEY RECEVIED IN THE 12 SEEMS YOU ARE OK.



Lizzie

Thanks for the response, Lucky. I had it delivered express to reach recipient by noon of the 12th. When I check USPS tracking, it has this description: “We attempted to deliver your item at 11:43 AM on May 12, 2008 in LAGUNA NIGUEL, CA 92607 and a notice was left. A second delivery attempt will be made. If unsuccessful, we will hold it for five business days and then it will be returned to the sender. Information, if available, is updated every evening. Please check again later. ”

Does that mean it is late filing?



LUCKY

Lizzie.

They will come an pick it up, they will see on the receipt that it arrive on the 12, so don’t worry. Did u file jointly?

but keep us inform ok.

For TIMBO, after you move within 10 days you have to change your address. DONT FORGET!!!! make a INFOPASS to get stamp your passport.

I think we are in the same case no extension letter so far only biometrics. Keep posted.



Lizzie

Thanks for the assurance, Lucky. Yes, we filed jointly.

I post updates.

Thanks, again!



TIMBO

Lucky,

thanks for advise. still no paper. but still hoping. Going for biometrics on thrusday. i’ll keep in touch.

I will call to do change of address this week. Just got our lease signed.



Kev

anybody applied for citizenship? I think I ll wait until this mess settles down a bit. It used to take 2-3 months to be citizen, now it takes 2 years, I can’t believe what the heck they r doing in two years for approval. If the guy is here in States for 5 years without a felony he should be good to go I guess,



bear

Timbo

I had the same issue with my extension letter. Filed on Feb 19 08, got the biometrics letter on March 14 website said that my case was transferred to the Vermont center and they sent me a letter which I never received. My GC was to expire on the 10 May but last week I scheduled an Infopass appt, saw an immigration officer and got my passport stamped with I55 which is the same as the extension letter. They didn’t know why I hadn’t received the letter.

Suggest that you do as Lucky says and make an Infopass appt.

How it all goes quickly for us.

Good Luck!



Lucky

Good Luck to all. I am ready for my fingerprints on Sat the 17 so far….. no letter of extension.

Let us keep inform..



Jess

All,

I have taken your advice and just made the appt with my husband to go see an immigrations officer for his stamp on his passport since we are yet to recieve his extension letter and we need to travel.

Do i need to bring anything in particular? I am going to the Dallas, TX office and wonder if there is a charge or some sort for the stamp on the passport? the InfoPass receipt didn’t mention that but you never know. I will bring all my documentation just in case, but i want to know if those who have done it already what was their experience?

Thanks all, i will keep you all posted!



LUCKY

Jess,

Did you arlready went to the INfoPass thing?.
I need to do mine also?
Please inform



Jess

all, I went yesteday… May 20th to the InS appt and got the stamp I-551 on my husband’s passport… in lieu of never receiving his extension letter.. its good for a year and like everyone said it takes place of th extension letter and is good thru a year and you can travel and work… it was so painless.. that i reccomed all those who have not yet received there letter to do so now!



Jess

yes lucky i went.. and it was a painless process..

You should do yours as well if you have yet to receive your extension letter… since my husband and I had urgency to get it.. since were going out of town in june… we couldn’t wait for the extension letter any longer.. its worth going.. i recommend though to get the earliest appt.. our appt was at 6:15 and were done by 7am.. if you get it any later… others in front might take longer.. and you would be there laters.. when we left at 7am there was a huge line!.. the early bird DOES catch the worm! :)



LUCKY

HELLO ALL

TODAY MAY 21 I RECEIVED MY EXTENSION LETTER……IT SAYS YOUR CONDITIONAL RESIDENT STATUS IS EXTENDED FOR A PERIOD OF ONE YEAR…..ETC…

YOU WILL RECEIVED AN APPOINTMENT FOR THE BIOMETRICS…( WHICH ALREADY DID ON THE 17)

I KNOW MY CASE WAS SENT TO VERMONT… AND NOW WAIT… I HOPE NOT FOR TOO LONG.

BUT ANYWAY LET US KEEP US POSTED FROM ANY NEWS, AND TIMELINES. OK



HARD TIME

Hello guys.

Emergency suggestions. We file jointly but my husband keeps trheating me that he will call immigration and stop everything.

Already have my fingerprints and my 1 year extension.letter I just want to wait and file de divorce…. We have problems in our marriage since long time… but any way we did try.

Please any suggestions, comments.

if he files the divorce ( i am not going to do it) shall I just not sign? We are in texas.
thanks

please.. time is running. Still can I get of the country? or….?



Pejeto

Sent I-751 to Vermont on may 9 2008 It was received delivery confirmation on may 12, I have been waiting 2 weeks for some but nothing just silence, check the bank account periodically to see if at least they cash the checks I sent in the application and again nothing! It really started to worry me most people got the checks cash within 2 days. should I call them or resend it
again in case of a incomplete application should get it back right?…. help



LUCKY

PEJETO.

COUPLE QUESTIONS.

WHEN DOES YOUR GC ESPIRES?
DID YOU FILE DURING THE 90 DAYS PERIOD?
I SUGGEST IF YOU DONT HEAR FORM THEM IN 1 WEEK CALL THEM TRY TO SPEAK WITH AND OFFICE AND GET A RECEIPT NO. SO THAT WAY YOU CAN TRACK IT.

OR.. MAKE AND INFO PASS IT IS EASY SIMPLE, AND PAINLESS.



LUCKY

AGAIN ME.

I HAVE MY EXTESION LETTER 1 YEAR, I NEED TO TRAVEL, IT SEEMS THAY ON YOUR WAY BACK THEY ASK TO MANY QUESTIONS ON THE EXTENSION LETTER. SOMEONE?

DID SOMEONE TRAVEL WITH THAT EXTESION LETTER? ANY COMMNENTS??
THANSK.



Timbo

I finaly got my extension letter for 1 year. I did my biometrics appointment before I even received my extention letter. Similar situation with Lucky.

I now need to do address change.

anybody has any idea how long before Green cards comes?

Thanks guys. Good luck



LUCKY

THAT IS GOOD NEWS TIMBO!!!! NOW JUST CROSS OUR FINGERS THAT OUR CASE GOES FAST…..
I HAVE BEEN READING A LOT THE FORUMS OF I-751 AND REALLY THE TIMES ARE BETWEEN 5 MONTHS UP TO 13 MONTHS.

HOPE OURS GO FASTER



Julie.KK

I sent everything they needed for application, and i got a letter today saying that my conditional resident status is extended for a period of one year. what do they mean? i applied for removal of conditions? and another thing, i have travel arrangements, but my green card will expire before i’m back … is there something i can do about it? i can’t delay my flight until i get the renewal … any suggestions? thank you.



Eduardo

Marilyn.

Im sorry to have to ask this..but im freakin out…for the longest time i thought the ate meant 90 days prior to second wedding anniversary date…which for me would be 0ctober 5th 2006
my card permanent residence card says Card EXPIRES 06/24/09
Resident Since 06/24/07

so does this mean i have like 20 days to file my I 751 form!?

crap



LUCKY

JULIE,

YES THAT IS YOUR 1 YEAR EXTENSION MORE….WE ALL HAVE TO WAIT TO GET APPROVAL ON REMOVING CONDITIONS. YOU CAN TRAVEL WITH YOUR EXPIRE GC AND THAT LETTER OF EXTENSION WITH NO PROBLEM.



LUCKY

FOR EDUARDO.

NO YOU HAVE UNTIL APRIL 2009 TO SENT THE I-751, AND THE ANNIVERSARY IS WHEN THEY APROVED YOU FIRST GC NOT MARRIAGE. SO YOU HAVE 1 YEAR LEFT IN ODER TO SEND THE I-751 TO REMOVED CONDITIONS.

GOD LUCK



LUCKY

USCIS, …… ON SATURDAY I RECEIVED ANOTHER LETTER OF EXTENSION FOR 1 YEAR!!!!!!! WHAT ARE THEY DOING? SINCE THEY ARE TRASNFERIN THE CASES TO OTHER SERVICES CENTERS….EVERYTHING IS A MESS!!!!!!

WELL I GUES I HAVE TO TRAVEL WITH 2 LETTERS NOW, JUST IN CASE.

ANY APPROVALS ON 2008?

KEEP POSTED.



MELHAM

Hi! Just to let you know I submitted mine to Vermont:

my time line

Received by VSC Nov 7, 2007
Extention letter Dec 15, 2007
Biometric done Jan 18, 2008

7 months waiting……to date



Robert

Melham, your post on the I-751 was very reassuring to me. We are in the same situation.

Filed I-751 for wife in October 2007.

Received extension in November 2007

Biometrics February 4, 2008.

No Word or update since.

Processing time for Vermont says April 2007. Meaning, we will have filed for Citizenship by the time whe gets her green card. Not only that, her one year extension will have expired by then.



MELHAM

accdg to nikki if u can still remember (but he got already the 10 yr green card for his wife counted as 9 mos of waiting if m not mistaken that’s why he is no longer here in his website he is already happy).. one of his friends travelled with just extention letter , had a hard time in the port of entry , she was 5 hour delayed because of that. so to travel with just a letter of extention is quite risky.or maybe not to all.

Hopefully we can get it by less than a yr of waiting Robert…



Julie.KK

Thanks Lucky …i have another questions, do i have to go to the local office to get an extension stamp on my passport? or would the extension letter and the expired green card be enough? thanks



ron

i have a question my wife has a notice for petition to remove conditions on residence if i divorce her while it is being processed
thank you



LUCKY

JULIE.

WITH THE EXTENSION LETTER WILL BE ENOUGH ALONG WITH YOUR EXPIRED GC.



LUCKY

RON.

WELL WITH YOUR QUESTION, YOUR WIFE HAS TO FILE A I-751 WITH A WAIVER AND THE DIVORCE DECREE AND EVIDENCE OF THE MARRIAGE.
ARE U ALREADY DIVORCED? PLEASE EXPLAIN MORE AND TRY TO HELP YOU.



diana

I Filed my I 751 to Nebraska on mid February 2007. They did not send my new card yet so I did a request to them.
Their answer was this:

Based on your request we researched the status of this case. We are actively processing this case. However, we have to perform additional review on this case and this has caused a longer processing time. If you do not receive a decision or other notice of action from us within 6 months of this letter, please call customer service at the number provided below.

Can anybody tell me what this mean?



LUCKY

Sorry but your case it is pending… why you don;t try and infopass? and talk to a live person regarding your case.. or just simple wait… they are taking forever in cases of i-751.

good luck



lost

Hi everyone, i’ve been reading your posts and they have been very helpful, i sent my i751 form along with all proof on Jan 14 to the Texas SC. On Jan 18 i received extension letter and checked online and my case was transferred to VSC. I also got my appointment for biometrics on Feb 20, and since then i haven’t heard anything and online my case is still pending. My problem is my husband and I are having problems with our marriage, we did before and we worked on them but things now don’t seem like they are going to work out. What should i do, get divorced now and wait for my card to come on the mail, or just wait to see if things get better, but what if they dont? should i file all over again by myself?
Thanks for your help



mischa

I filed a separate form I-751 (and all the suporting documents) for me and a separate I-751 for my son which at the time was 14 y.o. he sign his application ….. this instruction I had from customer service USCIS. so, we send our petition at NSC …. but they send my application back because I filed to early. anyway, they keept my son application. Somebody here knows if a minor child shoul filed a separate form from his mother? he came here in US 6 month after me, I need to mention that I filed to early both application but I receind back just mine. the issue here is that my son case is still in pending and under review, in the mind time I got my GC … just me, is just frustating, my son is minor and we still wait his gc …. what is means “under review” …. is means something bad??? I am just very concern, somebody can help me with information??? pls
I field in march 2007 ….. we still waiting …. but they move all the papers at CSC.



misu

filed I-751 more then 1 year ago, I understand that my case is still in pending because a judge offiter needs to review this case, ….. pls if somebody known what is means I really appreciate, thx all :)



LUCKY

FOR LOST.

I AM SORRY FOR ALL YOU ARE GOING THROUGH… BUT NOTHING IS LOST.

1-CAN YOU HANG OUT IN THERE UNTIL YOUR CONDITIONS ARE REMOVED? OR TRY TO WORK IT OUT WITH YOUR HUSBAND OR AT LEAST REACH INTO AGREEMEMENT OR SOMETHING? UNTIL YOUR CONDITIONS ARE REMOVED..
I KNOW IT IS HARD WHAT I AM TELLING YOU… BUT IF YOU MARRY IN BONA FIDE AND YOUR HUSBAND CARES FOR YOU, HE WILL NOT LIKE TO PUT YOU IN THIS SITUATION.

2-IF WHAT I AM TELLING YOU, IT IS IMPOSIBLE AND YOU CANNOT STAND LIVING THERE. WELL YOU HAVE TO FILE DIVORCED RIGHT AWAY AND ONCE YOU HAVE YOUR DIVORCE PAPER, YOU HAVE TO FILE A NEW I-751 AMENDED WITH THE DIVORCE PAPER ON IT AND EVIDENCE OF MARRIAGE AND THE PROPER FILIING FEE AGAIN.

I HAVE BEING READING A LOT OF THE FORUMS AND IT HAVE BEEN SUCESSFULL WAIVERS APPROVALS AFTER DIVORCE.

BUT AGAIN IT WILL TAKE MORE TIME.
SO THINK ABOUT IT? YOU ARE ONLY MONTHS AWAY TO GET APPROVAL

I CAN TELL YOU THAT I WAS IN A SIMILAR POSITION LIKE YOU, AND I WENT TO A VERY GOOD IMMIGRATION LAYWER IN TEXAS… AND BELIEVE ME THAT IS WHAT HE ADVISED ME.

I AM NOT TELLING YOU WHAT TO DO, BUT IT IS JUST MY OPINION…

BUT INF YOU NEED MORE SUPPORT OR SOMETHING PLEASE FEEL FREE TO WRITE.



LUCKY

MISU.

MORE INFO ON YOUR CASE…. DID YOU ALREADY WENT TO A INFOPASS? THAT IS THE FASTEST WAY TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON WITH YOUR CASE.

AND ON LINE STATUS?

DID YOU FILE JOINTLY? OR WITH A WAIVER?



Pejeto

Mischa

According to 8 CFR sec 216.4 you cannot include a joint petition with your son because your son had to acquire residence on the same date or within 90 days thereafter of the parent’s residence that’s why your son had to apply separate since you got 6 months difference on that,(same six months difference with my daughter) I just think you are lucky that they did not sent you back the 2 applications just one, same case happend to me they sent me back my I-751 joint petition in which my daughter was appliying with me. I had to resend everything, and applied just for myself. I Got My NOA and now waiting for Biometrics Notice. My 10 year old daugther will have to apply when her time is ready,

I hope this was helpful for you



jc

Help guys please!

Need to submit my 3 kids I-751 before the end of June 2008. They got their conditional GC more than 90 days after mine.

Questions:

1.I need to pay 3 sets of $545 (filing and biometrics fees), right?

2.What are the supporting documents needed when you are filing for a child I-751? Kids are in MS and HS now.

3. What is the best written explanation why a child is filing separately from his parent?



lost

Thank you Lucky for your answer, i might consider that, in case i can’t take it then i’ll just file again, thanks again



james hernandez

Question?
I am about to send in the i751 paperwork. We have most of the docs required but since I am not to big on taking pictures, I just wanted to know if pictures are required or if they are just optional. Does everyone send pics????????



MELHAM

YES, i think pictures are very important unlike the letters which only needs 1 0r two.



raiye

i have a serious question.
i have the two years green card i am worried about the removal of the case means to get the ten years card .my worry is that possible to live in different states me and my wife? if so what are the requrements they asked us to get my ten years card. please help me for deciding what i have to do.
if possible please forward me all the neccessery doc for this case .
here is my assumption i need to file everything under my spouse is this possible? what about the tax? the tax paper is this necessary?



LUCKY

WELL… WHY ARE YOU LIVING IN DIFFERENT STATES? FOR WORK? OR?
ICOME TAX TOGETHER IS ONE OF TH EMOST IMPORTANT THINGS TO SEND ALONG WITH THE DOCUMENTS…

EXPLAIN



TIMBO

LUCKY, JUST LIKE YOU GOT AN ADDITIONAL LETTER OF EXTENSION BEGINNING OF JUNE. BUT STILL NO WORD ON ANYTHING ELSE.

SEEMS LIKE THIS IS NORMAL THING. GOOD LUCK GUYS.



LUCKY

THANK YOU TIMBO. AND GUESS WHAT, I AM OUT OF THE COUNTRY SO I AM TRAVELING WITH THE 2 LETTERS.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE DOING…

KEEP POSTING



Julie.KK

Hello, i went in today for my biometrics (for the I-751) , but i don’t know what’s next? do i just wait till i get something in the mail? how long will that take? Thank you.



MELHAM

where did you file your i-751, after biometric nothing to do but to wait….for approval /notice in the mail for your 10 yr card GC or for interview. welcome to the waiting club.



LUCKY

WAITING CLUB…….. HOPE ALLTHE APRRIVALS COME FAST.



MELHAM

THOSE WHO FILE IN CSC ARE LUCKY, THEY ARE FASTER THAN OTHERS THEY COME OUT FOR ONLY 3-7 MONTHS OF WAITING.



TIMBO

UPDATE: STILL WAITING…

FILED BEGINNING OF APRIL 08.



Renuka

I just now went thru all the postings on different questions relating to the Petition to remove the conditions of residence. All the questions & answers are very helpful. I am married to a US Citizen & have a green card which expires on August 8th, 2008. I am ready to file my application for the permanennt green card, but have some questions.
As per the website I have the following documents.
1. Copy of green card (both front & back).
2. 2 Passport size photoes of mine & my husbands as we are filing jointly.
3. Joint Checking Bank A/C copy.
4. Copy of joint filing of State Tax Returns.
5. Original affidavits sworn by 2 people known to us.
6. Top portion of the green card covering letter
7. $465/-+$80/- cheque.
8. Filled in Form I-751.

I do not have the following.

1. Picture print outs of my & my husband taken together, but I do have a couple of pictures taken in parties which are in the computer.
2. The website says 2 completed finger print cards Form FD-258. What is this?
3. Me & my husband have a joint credit card with the same number. Do I have to submit a copy of the credit cards?
4. The website says that the afffidavits submitted by 2 known people must be supported by other types of evidence listed above. Is it necessary to send that?
I don’t have any other documents to prove the evidence of relationship as we don’t have insurance policies & we live in an apartment which is in the name of my elderly mother in law. We are happily married couple. My husband has 2 grown up daughters out of his first marriage & I don’t have neither any issues out of my first marriage, nor planning to have one now as I have crossed the age of child bearing.
I am living in New York & I have to send the papers to Vermont Service Centre.

Can anybody have some suggestions for me please?
Thanks!



MELHAM

FILED IN VSC NOVEMBER 2007
BIOMETRIC JAN 18 2008
STILL WAITING



imailin

Renuka: submit as much evidence as you can, the least think you want is a RFE (Request for evidence letter). when we send our package we include:
Green card (front back)
Income Tax return since the day we got married (2004)
Lease agreements (since 2004)
3 affidavitis from friends and landloard.
Car insurance (both names)
Joint bank statements
wedding pictures
utility bills (from all the utilities one from each year since 2004)
a letter from a friend inviting us to her wedding.

Include everything you can!!!!!!
good luck!
we got approved July 3 2008, after 1 year and 1 month of waiting (we filed on Texas and we were transfer to Vermont)



Jess

Sent hubby’s packet on 02/26/2008
Biometrics on 3/20/2008
never received extension letter..
Got stamp on passport on 05/20 in lieu of letter for 1 yr extension
STill waiting..

Has anyone that sent their packet in Feb 2008 received their green card? Thanks yall!



MELHAM

you did not mention what center you sent. My daughter had her biometric Feb 2008 still waiting, neither mine Nov 2007 still waiting…



james

where chicagoan’s i-751 are treated is it the slowest area because it’s crowded with immigrants ??
applying the 10th of december 2009.
is chirstmas period hurt the precessing time of the case?? thx.



JC

So I believe the difference in processing times have to do with each processing center. I am in CA, and my thing went quick and easy. We sent out app I-751 on June 9. Received the letter of 1 year ext a week later. i received the biometrics appt a few days later for Jul 2. I did that, and the lady who took care of me said that it’d take from 3 to 4 weeks to get my perm GC in the mail.
Thats been my experince so far. but I have to say I’ve been ext. lucky. Our documents of support weren’t that good at all, and yet, we haven’t had any problems.



MD filing

Hi all
I am in the WAITING CLUB also, but after reading your comments I feel lucky. I filed at the begining of June 08 and I just got my biometrics done couple of days ago!
I did get a lawer to take care of it for me though, and I filed in MD office – they seem to be pretty good and fast (also with other forms).



TIMBO

I filed in Texas. they transfered case to Vermont.

Filed in April, Biometrics in May, Letter of extension also in May.

Waiting.



matt

Hi folks,

Just sent our 751 yesterday (Thursday) to Lincoln center via express mail and was told by the post office that it would be delivered by noon today (Friday). Just checked the USPS website and this is what came up:

Processed, July 11, 2008, 12:44 pm, OMAHA, NE 68110
Processed, July 11, 2008, 10:04 am, LINCOLN, NE 68508
Forwarded, July 11, 2008, 10:02 am, LINCOLN, NE
Arrival at Unit, July 11, 2008, 9:58 am, LINCOLN, NE 68508
Processed, July 10, 2008, 8:09 pm, HAZELWOOD, MO 63042
Processed, July 10, 2008, 6:53 pm, SAINT LOUIS, MO 63155
Acceptance, July 10, 2008, 4:08 pm, SAINT LOUIS, MO 63132

The Lincoln center has a zip of 68501-7751 (according to the instructions) and my package was apparently diverted to Omaha.

I called the USPS 800 no. and got a recording saying that forwarding instructions had been left or the address was wrong (it was NOT). Won’t be able to talk with a human being until tomorrow. Anyone have similar problems with the Lincoln center?

Thanks in advance.

Matt



Matt

To answer my own question, it appears all 751s sent to Lincoln are now being forwarded to the CA center, which is where mine went since yesterday. Unsuccessful delivery attempt made today (Saturday), will try again on Monday. Hope this helps some of you who are sending to Lincoln.

Matt



MELHAM

you are lucky to be transferred to CA



MELHAM

HI GUYS!

the processing time has moved a lot to Sept 2007, its good news for waiting club esp whol file since last yr…good luck to us.



ERICA

MATT,

The same thing happend to me, as far as forwarding from NE to CA:

Delivered, July 16, 2008, 8:48 am, LAGUNA NIGUEL, CA 92607
Arrival at Unit, July 16, 2008, 8:46 am, LAGUNA NIGUEL, CA 92607
Forwarded, July 12, 2008, 11:55 am, LINCOLN, NE
Processed, July 11, 2008, 11:58 pm, OMAHA, NE 68108
Processed, July 10, 2008, 6:44 pm, MEDFORD, OR 97501

Let’s keep each other posted. Hopefully we’ll be on super very fast club.
A friend of mine filled exactly 1 year ago, and eventhough she had divorced from her husband her case went super fast, if I remember it right, the whole process took about 2 to 3 months in the CA center until she got her 10 y. GC.



Matt

Hi Erica (and others might find this interesting as well),

As I wrote above, I sent our 751 on Thursday, July 10, to NE, via Express Mail, and it was forwarded to CA, where it was delivered on Monday, July 14, after an unsuccessful Saturday delivery attempt.

Now here’s the fascinating stuff! We received our receipt notice in the mail TODAY, July 21, exactly one week after they received our 751 and it was dated “07/11/2008″, the day it SHOULD have been received in NE!!!

In the notice it stated my wife’s “conditional residence status is extended for one year.” Also, it was clear that they hadn’t even looked at the documantation we had sent as it said, “If you have not already done so, provide supporting documents….” and listed all the same stuff as in the 751 instruction sheets.

We’re going to our local USCIS office this week to have the extension stamped in my wife’s passport, which I assume we still need to do.

Bottom line is I was amazed how FAST all this happened after much of what I’ve read on this site. Maybe they’re finally getting their sh*t together at USCIS. ;-) Hope springs eternal.

BOL Erica. Since your 751 was received in CA just days after ours, I would think YOU should be getting your receipt notice any day now. Let me know.

Matt



Jess

sorry melham.. i sent my husbands docs to TExas but got transfered to Vermont.

still waiting.. since Feb of 2008….

Man, California is taking care of business.. how fast!



Renuka

Hi guys,

Finally, I had sent my packet with whatever available documents as mentioned above on 7th July by certified receipt mail to Vermont office & I received one year extension letter within one week! The letter also says that shortly they will inform about the date & place for the finger printing & the photo. All well till now with any hassels!



Renuka

Sorry! I had a typing error (All well till now without any hassels!)



Jeet

Hi everyone!
I am in a very messy situation. My wife, who is a US citizen, has been threatening to leave me for 7 months, and these days the abuse is unbearable! However, I am afraid to go for psychiatric help for depression and anxiety because then she would know and harass me even further, and even try to do the same thing herself to throw in a spanner in the works.
My question to you is this: is it possible to get your I-751 waiver approved without a cruelty evidence? Also, I did read that you need two mutual friends to testify that the marriage was entered in good faith. We don’t have any mutual friends from before we were married, and the only friends we made afterwards are from church, and I am not sure if they are as close to us as to get involved and offer to help by taking time off of their busy schedules!
So, could I still apply for the waiver?
Also, in case it is rejected, do they give you some time? I was wondering that since in case I meet anyone after I am divorced, and I get remarried, could I still have enough time to file another I-485 Change of Status application if my I-751 waiver is rejected?
Any response would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you!
Jeet

PS: Why do they want to schedule another biometric appointment? Is it a must? If so, why? I thought they already took the fingerprints for the first conditional GC!

PPS: If my wife DOES leave me, and we get a divorce, AFTER we file the I-751, and if the divorce is finalized before the 10-year approval (which is the most probable option, considering that cases take up to 1 year to get approved, whereas divorce would take only up to 4 months!), then

would my 10-year approval be considered null and void since that date would be past the divorce finalization date, since we had filed the I-751 jointly before the divorce was finalized?



LUCKY

HELLO TO ALL.

TIMBO…. MELHAM , ANY NEWS? NO APPROVALS? I AM STILL OUT OF THE COUNTRY TALK TO USA NOTHING ON THE MAIL….. WHAT ABOUT YOU…..



LUCKY

FOR JEET.

HAVE YOU TRY ALREADY A LEGAL ADVICE? IF YOU HAVE MENTAL CRUELTY AND YOU HAVE WAYS TO PROVE IT, YOU HAVE A GOOD CHANCE TO GET APROVE.

OR… ALSO IF YOU PROOF THAT YOUR MARRIAGE WAS ON BONA FIDE ALSO.. BUT DO NOT DO RIGHT NOW NOTHING WITH THE ACTUAL I-751 LET IT BE OK… UNTIL U FIGURE OUT WHAT R U GOING TO DO OK….



MELHAM

LUCKY,

ITS BEEN MY REGULAR HABIT TO VISIT THIS WEBSITE….

MAY I REQUEST THAT KEEP ON POETING THE TIMELINE AND MENTION ESP THE PROC CENTER…

MINE IS FILED NOV 9, 2007 IN VSC
GOT THE EXTENTION DEC 21, 2007
BIOMETRIC JANUARY 18, 2008

STILL WAITING…..

HOPEFULLY ..BEC THEY MOVED FASTER NOW FROM APRIL TO SEPT 2007 AS OF JULY 15….



LUCKY

GREAT IDEA.

SENT OT TEXAS APRIL 24,2008
TRANSFER TO VERMONT APRIL 27,2008
BIOMETRICS MAY 17,2008
EXTENSION LETTER (TWICE) DATE MAY 07, 2008 AND OTHER MAY 24,2008

AND STILL WAITING……..

HOPE THINGS MOVE FAST



ERICA

Hello everyone,

Thanks for the update Matt, luckly I’ve got my notice also.

I am on vacation, so I am not sure when I got my notice, I know I have it. ;)

My case is going as follow:
-07/10 Mailed to NE
-07/12 Forward to CA
-07/16 Delivered to CA
-07/18 Checks cleared
-07/21 or 22 Got notice

Hoping to get my biometrics app. in the next few days.
Since I haven’t had a chance to see my notice, can anyone tell me if this first notice has always being the 1 year extension? or is it just a notice stating they’ve got your paperwork and checks and that you’ll be getting your app. pretty soon? The reason why I ask is because that’s all I was told by the person who is checking my mail while I am out.

Thanks!!

Good luck to all of us!!! ;)

Matt: i guess you’ll be my reference, since you are two days ahead of me. Thanks. :D



ERICA

Hello everyone,
I found out that in fact my notice is a 1 year extension.
Now, looking forward to my biometrics notice.



Matt

Hi Erica.

Glad things are going smoothly for you too. An update for you as well as some additional info. Got the biometric letter Saturday, just 5 days after we got the receipt letter. The appointment was scheduled for Aug. 7 (I believe), so very quickly. My wife is leaving the country before then so we went in this morning to see if she could get her prints and photo done early and were pleasently surprised that they said OK. So that’s all done now.

I’m not sure if you are correct or not about your 751 receipt notice itself serving as your 1 year extension of your green card. Since my wife was leaving the country we had to have her new green card stamped on her passport, which now serves as her green card. Not sure if you will need a new 1 year green card (with picture ID) when yours expires, while you wait for final approval of your 751. If you know you will be leaving the country in the meantime, you should probably get the 1 year extension stamped in you passport as my wife did.

When you go in for your biometric appt. I’m sure they will let you know about whether you will need something more than your 751 notice.

Matt



LUCKY

HELLO GUYS.

JUST CAME BACK AFTER ALMOST 2 MONTHS OUT OF THE COUNTY, I HAVE CERO PROBLEMS WITH THE LETTER OF EXTENSION EVEN NO QUESTIONS ASK AT ALL!!!!

ANY NEWS SO FAR…??



ERICA

Hello Matt,

Wow, I am so glad to hear your wife’s process is pretty much done now, just sit and wait!! ;) That’s cool!
I just talked to my husband today, and he said we haven’t got the appointment yet. I am out of the country right now, so he has been keeping me updated.
I am glad to hear that it was ok that you guys went before the date. I’ll probably have to do the same.
As far as the stamp on her passport, did you get it at the Biometrics place? no right?! Did u have to get an appointment at an Office to get it stamped? Were there any hassles for that? I’ll be back to the US in two weeks, and I am hoping to get all that done as far as I get there.

Thank you so much for keeping doing the update, I’ve been checking on it everyday as I am trying on planning my flight back as close as possible to the app. but now I know i can do it as soon as I get the App. letter.

Thanks, good luck….hoping things will keep going this fast! :D



Jess

Ericka

To make get the stamp on your passport to travel and work in lieu of your paperwork in process you have to make an appt with InfoPass. Go to the Uscis.gov site and click on info pass and select the date and time when you would like to go. It will tell you were to go and what to have. NO fees, no hassel.. i would suggest to get the earliest appt as to leave early as well. The stamp will be good for one year. I hope this helps!



Jess

sorry for the extra comment.. i did the first then got a page error.. so i did another one and now both are there! :)

sorry!! ..



Chula

This website is so helpful. I sometimes feel so alone and alienated because noone I know understands the process we go through. However, you all do!

I am preparing to submit the I-751 for my husband. Can anyone answer any of the following for me:

1. My husband currently is a conditional resident and has a PRC that expires 12/2008. Do we need to also submit an I-551 Form??

2. Do we need to show proof of financial responsibility again (Affidavit of Support)? I don’t see it anywhere on the I-751 Form where we need to submit our finances.

3. From what I understand we need to file the I-751 within 90 days from when his PRC expires. Not necessarily two years from when he entered the US. Is this correct?

Odd question: Why do they call the Conditional Resident Card the “Permanent Resident Card”? He currently has a Conditional Residence, however he has a Permanent Resident Card. Makes no sense?

4. We are not on the Mortgage together because he had no credit history and our interest rate would have been high. Instead we opted to leave him off the mortgage and file a Quit Claim Deed adding him to the ownership of the property. Will this pose a problem?

Good luck to you all, I hope someone may have some insight into my questions.

Thanks!



Matt

Hi Erica,

Sorry for not getting back quicker but I’ve been very busy the past few days and spaced it out. Anyway, as Jess said, you should make an appointment with InfoPass and they will send you over to the office where the biometrics are done and they will put the stamp in your passport. Hopefully, you will have your Biometric appt. by the time you read this and then you can kill two birds with one stone by having both done on the same day. I’d still make the InfoPass appt. for the passport about a half hour before your biometric appt. in case you need authorization from the one office first. Hope this helps.

Matt



ERICA

Thank you very much for your help Jess and Matt.

I will try to get my app. right now. Unfortunatelly as far as I know I haven’t got my biometrics app. yet, I’ll try to find out tonight.

Sorry, I have one more question: Is the receipt # from the first notice the same or different from the one in the Biometrics app?

Thank you guys.



Jess

Chula,

your husband has a Permanent REsident card but has one condition, you are in temp status until you can show the government that you entered the marriage in good faith to get residency. so the fact that its called permanent residency is true it is, but it just has one condition and to remove it you must file the 1-751. I dont know what a 1-551 is, but if its like everyone else, or like mine all you need to remove the condition on the residency is to fill out the 1-751 and turn in as much evidence to show your are both still married and are building your life together. If he is not on the mortgage is fine, just still show that he lives there by showing proof of any bills you both get to that address which will show he lives there.

you have to turn in pictures throughout your conditional residency, lots of them… (the more the better) like the articled mentioned… joint bills, affidavits from friends or colleagues, even your pastor that state that you are happily married and that your marriage is not a fraud ( i included 5 for my husband) joint bank statements, insurance bills (car and health)_ anything with both your names on it also your W2′s where you have filed jointly. i turned in a lot of info.. I dont think affidavit of support, because now your both contributing to the marriage so its both your finances (that will show in the w2.. so that takes care of that) and yes you submit all this 90 days before the date it expires on his PRC. i hope this info helped.. i know its more work.. and a little frustrating.. but were all here to help one in other in this process :)



Constantine

I am have filed my I-751 it seems like everything went through, but I haven’t gotten my receipt yet. I did get my biometrics appointment. Should I ask them about the notice there and can they issue one for me there in case it got lost in a mail? Or I need to wait until they process my bio before they issue the receipt? Did any one else have similar story? I am in California.
Thanks



Chula

Jess,

Thank you so much for all the information and detail! I think we are pretty much ready to go then. I’m way too organized, so much to a fault. I was freaking out a little bit about the mortgage, I thought they really looked for that. But your email helped ease my worries.

I have pictures all ready to go, however I have saved them in an organized manner on a CD by date and event. Do you think it would be fine to submit a CD with the compiled photos along with a detailed list. Or do I need to print them off? I was hoping to save the expense.

Even thought he already got his bio done two years ago, he will have to re-do them? Do they need to do a medical exam again, I didn’t see anything in there about that?

Where are you at in your process? Is it for you or your husband? Did you have an actual interview? I hear that they often times bypass the interview if you document and present your case well enough? Either way, I wish you both luck!

Again, thanks for all your feedback, it was very usefull.

Chula



Kevin

Hey all
I did my biometrics on June 1, wondering if my waiting time frame is ok..
Case is at the CA office. I was wondering if there is anyone in my time boat that can relate.
Good luck to you all and keep it flowing.



MELHAM

kevin,

I am sure youll get it in 4-6 months. CA is faster a lot better.



LUCKY

Melham, Timbo:

Any news? I have not received nothing yet, check status online and still pending.

Lucky for us that Vermont move faster a couple months.

Keep posted.



MELHAM

Lucky.

Its been 9 months waiting for me. hope wont reach a year.



LUCKY

Melham,

Your case was sent to Vermont too? According to your dates, you are 2 months away…..

Hope arrive faster than that.

Keep posted please



MELHAM

Lucky,

Its not only for me but also for my daughter who’s separated from me.

Hers is Feb 2008 biometric.so more months in waiting for her.



Kevin

Melham, Lucky, All

Thanks for your posts. Now my wife wants to move out before I receive my document.

What should I do? I’m especially worried in case I get scheduled for an interview.
Help..

Kev.

FYI: Did biometrics June 1, 2008



kate

halo everyone,

it is a first time that i am writting on this website, but i have been visiting for the past couple of weeks.
I have a question and I will be glad if someone will answer it.

I am supposed to file I-751 to remove conditions on my residency in October (that is when my 90days starts).
I am planning to go to visit my parents in England in January (the beginning).
My problem is: should I send application as soon as possible so I can have my biometric taken before the end of 2008 or should I wait till the last minute and mailed them just before the end of those 90 days, which would be in the beginning of January.
The problem that i have is I am affraid that I am going to receive the letter for biometrics when I am abroad. So then how am I going to reschudule that appointment and if I am going to get in trouble for it????
Please guys if you are able to help me with this issue I will be appreciate.
Thank you so much and I am waiting for some responses.
PS> I have to mail this application to Texas, which I don’t know if they are slow or fast overthere.
Please help me.

kate



LUCKY

Kevin,

Your wife wants to move out, because the marriage is not working? or what?

If thats is the case are you sure you cannot solve your issues? Or the situation is bad?

Your are months away to get approved so, either you have a divorce a resend and amendment i-751 with divorce decree or try to work things out with your wife.

But why you consult an inmigration lawyer?

keep posted and maybe we can give you ideas ok.



Jess

Chula,

nO problem.. love to help.. In regards to the photo cd, good question but im afraid i dont have an answer for that.. i would suggest to print them off and have them ready for them, i know its an extra expense but its worth them having their proof right in front of them than receiving or dealing with a cd. Maybe someone else here has had a situation with that and can respond to you. I am doing the process for my husband of 3 years. Were still waiting on his PRC to arrive, everything else has been done and all we do now is wait. I have heard an interview can happen but i think that is when they need further info from you that could not be obtained from you packet, i dont think you can request one, since removing a condition is pretty much mainstream its like you already a resident unless they find new info on your case that seems suspicoius to them and they would need to talk to you in person. you know?

No medical exam that was done when you did your I-30 and petitioned your hubby, the Fingerprints had to be done again this time around as an extra measure that the person in question is still clean and a good person. Other than that.. the waiting game begins. I turned in my husbands packet on FeB 2008 in TEX but it was transfered to Vermont and so far.. havent heard otherwise, but were good.. we have the 1 yr extension and so no worries.



Matt

Kate,

I would send in your 751 ASAP. We sent ours to NE and it was forwarded to CA. We had the same worry about the biometrics as my wife was leaving the country and we thought her appointment would be when she was gone. Well, we got the appt. letter 2 days before she was leaving (with her appt scheduled several weeks after she would have left) so we went to the USCIS the day before she left and they took her prints without an appt. We were fortunate in that they weren’t busy. Anyway, I had been told previously that you could always send a letter requesting a rescheduling of you appt.

Bottom line is that my wife received her new 10 year green card in less than ONE MONTH after we filed her 751. No interview, no nothing! Our documentation wasn’t even very extensive! Of course if she hadn’t gotten her biometrics done two weeks earlier than she was supposed two it would have taken two weeks longer to get her new card. So if TX is anything like CA you could have everything finished before you leave in Jan.

Hey Erica! This should be good news for you too as you will probably get your new card any day now, I would think since you were right behind us. Good luck to both of you. Let me know if I didn’t answer your question sufficiently.



MELHAM

matt,

please give us your timeline until you got your GC so we have an idea esp for those from CA processing center

thank you



LUCKY

Matt,

Thant was really fast… please give us your time line.



Matt

Lucky and Melham,

I overnighted the application on Thursday, July 10 to NE, so it SHOULD have arrived on 7/11. It was rerouted to CA, where it was received on Monday, 7/14. On Monday, 7/21 we received our notice of receipt in the mail and a few days later went to our local USCIS office to have the one year extension stamped in my wife’s passport. On Saturday, 7/26, we got my wife’s biometric appt notice in the mail with appt. scheduled for 8/7. Since my wife was leaving the country on Tuesday, 7/29, we went to USCIS on Monday to see if they would take her prints before she left and they were very nice to do so. On 8/14 we received her 10 year green card which was dated 8/8. So the whole process took under a month. It would have taken, probably, six weeks if we had gone to her biometric appt. when it was originally scheduled. Hope this helps.



Kate

Matt,

thank you so much for your response.
I think I am going to mail it as soon as I can( which will be in October).

I am very surprised that you guys got everything so fast.
I am happy for you and hope the same for me.

Last June I have mailed I-90 to replace my temporary green card (my wallet was stolen with it, last year when we were on vacation) and I was supposed to get it within 6 months – at the latest.
Well, I am still waiting for it and it is already 14 months.
They are saying that they have received a lot of applications last year so they’re a little bit slow.
No more useful information about my case from INS.

So I am hoping for the best.

Matt, thank you one more time, I was worry that no one will respond.
Well, I will definatelly be checking this website, it is really helpfull.

I will have to mail my application in October, so you could be sure I will write again.

Kate



Kevin

Matt,

That was super fast! I’m happy for you and your wife.

As for my case, it’s not so bad. She wants to move out, but it’s not violent or anything. She is a very nice person, not psycho or anything.. so I don’t think she’ll be filing for divorce anytime soon especially since she’s aware of my situation.

I’ll keep you guys posted – especially if I hear anything from immigration guys. Keep your heads up everyone and enjoy the weekend.

Kev



Kevin

Kate

Scheduling for biometrics is usually about 6 weeks. The earlier you do it, the better. The extension letter says that it’s an extension to your expired green card for a year from the date written on it.

Question to all: Do you know anyone that ran into problems removing conditions? Please share so we can be smarter about this process.

Again, Kev.



MELHAM

that was too fast for Matt ( a month) while me up to this time my 9th month waiting for my GC ..VC center.

Congratulations//



ERICA

Matt,

That’s really awesome news. That’s great!
As for my case, I still haven’t been able to go get my biometrics, I am still out of the country and since USCIS told me there was no problem on doing later I wasn’t in a rush, but knowing that you wife’s card came already I’ll try to rush and go do it next week or so.
The other thing that is kind of holding me is because USCIS told me on the phone that for a walk in I had to go on a wednesday, but u guys went on a monday, isn’t that right?

Thank you so much for the news and I’ll try to rsh and get my card soon.

Good luck to everyone!



marlon

in my case i send the i-751 6 months late last week ind cashed the check is this good news that they accepted my excuse or it`s just part of the process



NAZRIMA

Applied I-751 in March, 2008
Received NOA.
Received Finger Prints Notice in May.
Never received extension letter.
Got stamped in the passport for 1 yr extension.
USCIS officer mentioned that they have computer issue sending the extension letter.
Still waiting for the Perm GC.



Zara

I am worse off than the rest of you and have put myself in this situation. I flubbed on the dates, and did not file for the petition in time. As it stands I am two months late and I just got the deportation letter today. Joy! My question is, is anyone else in this situation or does anyone know of others who have been able to work through this? I doubt anyone on here could have been as foolish though, it just slipped our minds with life’s stresses.

Cheers



NANEI

Hello everyone!!!

Thanks for all the information.

I was wondering if the date that they issued your residency changes when you get the new green card?



LUCKY

Zara,

Did you already hired an immigration lawyer? You need one ASAP.



Kate

Zara,
I agree with Lucky. You need to get a lawyer. I don’t know anybody that has been in your situation but it doesn’t sound good. Just try to do something ASAP.

kate



MELHAM

Hi Everyone,

the processing date has moved…anyone on this date? please anyone that has been approved give time to inform us and put your timeline before say goodbye ….

Mine is a month away -November 9..its been my 10th month waiting if ever .



LUCKY

MELHAM

HOPE YOURS APPEAR ASAP PLEASE KEEP US POSTED BEFORE YOU SAY GOODBYE OK.



MELHAM

lucky,

hopefully approved without interview. my problem is im about to moved out this month.

I will let everybody know my time line from VSC as soon i receive the info.



LUCKY

MELHAM,

BE SURE TO CHANGE YOUR ADDRESS AN CALL AND INFORM AND PLEASE KEEP US POSTED IF SOMETHING COMES UP OK.

GOOK LUCK.



Jess

That was fast Matt! That California office is working quick!

I am on my 7 month waiting.. like Melham it was sent to Vermont, I originally sent it in Feb… so still waiting on the green card for my hubby!!.. but so far we have the 1 year extension.. so not too bad..

Lucky, when did you send yours in and where?



ZARA

Hi Guys,

Lucky, yes I have a lawyer so I am going through her. We are getting it all sorted by Friday, just waiting for my new medical tests. For anyone else in this situation, what you need to do or the best way to go about it is to re-apply for adjustment of status….like doing the whole thing all over again. But at least this time it will get me the 10 year residency. She says it’s not as bad as I think it is as I am still married. The only bad part is paying the fees. So for everyone else, unless you have a really good reason that you were late with your conditional residence removal, dont try to send it in late…they will take your money and deny you. You’ll need to apply for adjustment of status.

Cheers



LUCKY

Jess,

I sent it to texas received on april 24 2008, trasnfer to vermont on april 28,2008, bio may 17,2008 received extension letter and nothing else… still WAITING AND WAITING we file a joint petition.



LUCKY

Zara,

Thats good you hired an lawyer, please keep us posted of any news.

good luck



Chula

My husband arrived to the US on a K-3 fiancee visa..

Arrival Date: July 3, 2006
Received Work Authorization and Temp Perm Resident ID in December 2006.

His Temp Perm Resident ID was valid for two years, until December 2008. However his Work Authorization card expired only one year later, December 2007.

He is still here in the US on the Temp Perm Resident Card and we are currently filing to remove the conditions. We are submitting our papers in only a couple of days, just about 90 days from the Dec 2008 expiration date.

Does anyone know if we needed to apply for a new Work Authorization card in Dec 2007 order for him to legally work in the US? We did not apply to re-new it because the Temp Perm Res Card indicated that he has work authorization. However his current employer is giving him problem.

Anyone go though anything similar or have any advise???

Thanks so much! Chula



MELHAM

hey guys,

I just received today that I am approved!!!

my tmeline:VSC filed jointly

Nov 9 they received my 1-751
December 2007- extension received
January 18- Biometric

Received approval without interview today Sept 10, 2008.
total of 10 months waiting.

so I wont say goodbye yet…till I have the GC on my hand.



halmas

Congrats Melham! Could you please tell me which website do you use to check the update status for the I-751 filing candidates? Thanks.



MELHAM

halmas,
http://www.uscis.gov

then go to status on line make sure you have your receipt number (the one that scheduled for your biometric appt)



LUCKY

Melham,

Congrats!!!!! tell us when you received your 10 gc. Please. Seem like Vermont is moving……..



Kris

Some help please!

My wife’s card expires on the 26th of this month. I got info off an incorrect website, I did not include a cover page or pictures. I included IRS and Bank information along with insurances and other records with both of our names on the documents. I DID NOT INCLUDE A CHECK!!

Question:

1. Now that I have the correct information, should I mail everything out once more overnight?

2. Will a case be opened, and will i be at risk in 13 days if she is here with an expired card?

3. How much is the fee?

4. Is the fingerprints after they get all the information?

Help would be greatly appreciated



Kris

Regarding i751 filing joint.
I am a citizen and we are happily married. I listened to the guy in the airport “you will get a package 3 weeks before her card expires….. I just happened to check online and realized that our happy lives can turn into a nightmare!!! any way to file an extension? or do i just wait for a reply in the mail?



Kevin

Melham,
Congrats. That gives us a better understanding of the time frame. Keep your head up.

Kev



Kevin

Kris

I would suggest you talk to a lawyer. They understand the problem better and most of us on this forum can only answer limited questions based on our limited experiences.
You’ll be fine, just have a lawyer get you out of this mess pronto. Good luck.

Kev



Kris

Thanks Kevin,

I spoke with immigration. They told me just resend the information since the card is not yet expired and they will attach it to the case number.

Regards,

Kris



Sabine

I am filing an I-751 form and it asks for completed fingerprint cards (Form FD-258). Can nayone tell me where to obtain this form? Also how long is it takign to process the I-751?



MELHAM

SABINE,

just to let you know CA center takes 3-6 months processing, while VSC takes 8-12 months processing base on timelines above.



eddie

Hi everyone,

My GC expires on 3/1/09, I will file the
I-751 togeteher with all needed doc. on November 08.
I need to know what I will recieve first if everything is ok with docs.
Is it the notice of receipt with which I go to the USCIS and get a stamp on my passport for one year extension,
then I recieve the biometric app. notice, and after I file the biometrics I just whait for the new GC if everything goes well.

Please corect me if I’m wrong with this procedure.

Thnx in advance,

Eddie



Lou

Sabine
re: I am filing an I-751 form and it asks for completed fingerprint cards (Form FD-258). Can nayone tell me where to obtain this form? Also how long is it takign to process the I-751?
On form I-175 under – What is the filling fee? It states that after submit form I-751 , USCIS will notify about when and where to go for biometric services (finger prints)



kate

Sabine,
On Instructions to I-751 it says:
“Those who reside overseas pursuant to military or government orders, including conditional resident dependents residing overseas and listed under Part 5 of the form, must submit the following items with Form I-751:
1. Two passport-style photos for applicants and dependents, regardless of age.
2. Two completed fingerprint cards (Form FD-258) for applicants and dependents between the ages of 14 and 79………….

What I understand is that the Form FD-258 is required to those who are overseas. I agree with Lou, after you file you are going to be informed about when and where your biometric will be taken.



MELHAM

lucky, or to every one!!!

I received already my greencard in the mail last night. As I’ve said I will say goodbye if i have it already on my hand.

This is form VSC had 10 months waiting. So for everybody from VSC count it 8-12 months in waiting and its worth it to have a lawyer to do for it. Good luck for evrybody.



LUCKY

MELHAM

GOOD BYE AND GOOD LUCK THANKS FOR THE TIMELINE ETC….

GOOD BYE



cindy

any advise in traveling abroad with an extension letter and without your citizen spouse.



joe

Cindy, go ahead, i did it , in one month I went out of the country twice and nothing happened



Sami

hELLO
I filed in texas february 2008 was transfered to vermont received extention in june 6th did fingerprint in july and still waiting….



LUCKY

SAMI,

WELCOME TO THE WAITING CLUB…… FOR ME SENT ON APRIL 24 TRANSFER TO VERMOTN ON THE 28 HAVE FRIGERPRINTS ON MAY 17 AND 5 MONTHS WAITING… SO BE PATIENCE.



TANA

SENT TO VSC APRIL 10,2008

EXTENSION LETTER APRIL 16,2008

BIOMETRICS APRIL 28, 2008

AND STILL WAITING….



Sami

LUCKY
I ain’t going no where.:)
It takes usually a years so hopfully I’ll get something by Feb 09



Sami

Tana they got back with you quick that’s a good sign I filed before u on Feb 28 and they said they sent me the extention and it got lost so they redid it again and i got it in june 6th



Di

Hello everyone! Thank you for the information. It is very helpful. My husband and I are planning to file form 751 soon. And I have a question. We recently had a baby. Isn’t a birth certificate a good enough proof? Do I still need to submit bunch of other documents? Or is it good enough?
Do any of you have children? And was it helpful?
Thank you all.



MAI

I’ve been coming to this website & reading entries/postings. It’s really great to read comments & be able to relate; at the same time know time period for the process. THANK ALL ALL for sharing your experiences.

We just filed a joint petition for removal of condition on my husband’s residency. We are happily married & hope that we will not have to wait so long (I know that is everybody’s wish here) (^,^) Here’s our timeline:

8/26/08 – Mailed I-751 to Vermont Center
8/28/08 – Check cleared from bank
9/29/08 – Scheduled for Biometrics & photo (it took 5 minutes, we went early – there were 2 people on the line)

* we have not received a letter of RECEIPT nor the EXTENSION LETTER just yet, but we are not worried. My husband’s card will not expire until Nov 11. It really helps to file your I-751 as early as possible to the 90day period.



Timbo

Lucky, Melhan and others

Still waiting. Check status online.. PENDING.

Filed inTexas, case transfered to Vermont Center. Filed in mid april 08.

Waiting continues. Websites shows that INS Vermont center processing cases now from October 1, 07 now. This is bad indication for the rest of us. Keep posting.



chris

Anyone had experience filing the I-751 from overseas. Working on contract for the military, and am preparing to file for my wife. The fingerpring card was done at the military base where I work and they only signed their name in the appropriate block. Besides the A#, do we need to fill out the remainder of the form? I have asked CIS at our local embassy, and have called both the 1-800 and an alternate 1-877 (for military) customer service numbers and am, needless to say, still in need of an answer.

I had also read on the CIS website that if the FD-258 was completed at an embassy or military installation, the $80 biometric fee is not necessary. One of customer service numbers said they weren’t sure, but pay the fee in case, and that if we had over paid we would be sent a refund for that amount; anyone ever overpay (that you were aware of) and get a refund from CIS?

Thanks for any info out there.



LUCKY

TIMBO,

Still WAITING…….case on line pending…..there not much we can do… just WAIT.

Keep Posted.

By the way Melham already aproved in other posting you can see his time line. took him 10 months waiting.
Hope our will be less.



Drew

Hey peeps… My card production was ordered yesterday

I-751 – Mailed on Dec. 6, 2007 VSC
NOA – Rec’vd Dec 18, 2007
Biometrics – Jan. 14, 2008
Card Production – Oct. 6, 2008

Things are moving along. Best of luck to everyone still waiting. I know how taxing it is sitting around and not know what the outcome will be.



Sami

congrats Drew
it was time for them to start moving



Megan

So glad to hear we are not alone in our waiting and wondering….
We are also dealing with the Vermont service center. .
-Our receipt date is May 27th
-We sent in our supporting documents and
Biometrics were done on 6/27/08.
We were not notified that an interview would be necessary thus far. Online it states our case was moved to the Vermont service center on June 2nd, and that’s it! The time frame for the VSC is listed as October 21st 2007? Which makes no sense to me. Anyone able to shed some light on this?
thanks



Glory

Hello Everyone,

Thank you so much for sharing your info, God bless the person who started this blog. I’ve been reading for a very long time (a silent reader). I’ll be very happy when Lucky get his card because he has been a great supporter of many people in this site. Well in terms of my case not timeline yet I sent my papers on Sept. 18th almost 4 weeks ago, however I have not received a single confirmation yet. At least they cashed the check on the next day. I’ll keep you posted.

Thank you, thank you



LUCKY

Hi Glory!

Welcome to the waiting club, you can check your status on the back on the check or in front ( bank image) they are a couple numbers, with that you can track it on the uscis site.

VERMONt, whre is my GREEN CARD!!!!!!!! hurry up

good luck to all



Jess

lucky i know what you mean.. Hurry up Vermont!!

Its great Melham no longer has to wait.. still waiting.. i sent my husband’s packet in Feb… so im hoping to see something in Jan.. Lets hope!!!

everyone keep in touch.. and share your stories!



No Name

This is a wonderful site. Thanks all for sharing your info regrading i-751. Mine:

Rec’d: Dec 13 2007 at VSC
Bio: Feb 2008
Current status: received and pending.

I think those who are privileged to become a citizen, ought to call their local representatives so that people in the power realize this long waiting is not justified. A collective voice may make a difference.

Thanks again.



Jess

The Vermont Center is moving!! i checked today and they are on the Nov 25, 2007 cases!!! My husbands was sent In Feb 2008!! so im soo excited..



LUCKY

THATS IS SO GREAT NEWS!!! KEEP US POSTED WHEN YOUR HUSBAND RECEIVED HIS 10 CARD. MAYBE YOU RECEIVED IT BEFORE THAT TIME.



Kev

if u r with vermont sc dont worry it ll be ok soon and real quick



No Name

Hi wonderful people of this site. Here is the update of my i-751, in case you are interested:

Rec’d: Dec 13 2007 at VSC
Bio: Feb 2008
Current status: Card production ordered.

You will get yours soon. Thanks.



Leah

Missing letters, anyone?

My husband and I just received a letter from the CA processing center saying that we had failed to reply to a request for more evidence sent to us in April. The only problem with that is, we never received any letter in April.

We were in the same waiting game with the one year of nothing happening and then a letter of a one year extension and then this letter saying that we had abandoned our I-751 because we failed to reply to this missing letter.

I’ve contacted our senator’s office and they have contacted USCIS for us. I’ve also gotten a lawyer and she says that this happens all the time and that the thing to do is to re-file the I-751 as a “late” filing [though we already filed in on time]. We also had to pay them another $585 as a fee to see about their re-opening our case after they closed it because we failed to respond to this missing letter. They took the fee and STILL refused to re-open the case.

We are going to have to re-file the i-751, if they will even accept it! At least we have a lawyer now.

Anyone have any experience like this?



Chic

Hi! I submitted the I-751 form plus evicedence and check and received the NOA soon after (on Oct 15). So what is next? Do I have to call USCIS to follow up?
How long will it take them to send me the ASC notice for the biometrics?Thanks and hope somebody replies to this!



Sami

you just need to wait chic, it will depend on the service center if it’s california it may take only 4 to 6 months if it’s vermont it takes 10 to 12 months.
good luck to u and welcome to the club i’ve been waiting since feb 28 2008



kate

Halo everyone,
I just have received a Notice of Action for my I-751.
When I am trying to enter receipt number
(the one that is on NOA) online on http://www.uscis.gov or over the phone to find some more information it tells me that this receipt cannot be found.
How that is possible? Does anyone know???
Do you know how long is the wait to receive a letter for biometric???

thank you to anyone who is going to respond

kate



Sami

kate use the receipt number you will receive on your biometrics letter it happened to me I called and they told me to use the other receipt number and it worked.
No big deal u’ll be alright.
just take your seat in the waiting room.



Sami

Kate
You will have to use the receipt number you will receive on your biometrics letter. Forsome reason that’s the number they use for inquiries it did happen to me.
You’ll be alright welcome to the waitin room take your seat

sent package to TSC Feb,28 2008



Chic

thanks Sami and others for the updates and reassurance!
Bless especially the owner of this site.
Chic



mery

Hi everybody
please i need help i’m so confused ???
my green card is going to expire in December 15 2008 so i applied for the form I-751 on September 1,2008 . in September 6 they extend my conditional residency for one year also they told me that i will be receiving an ASC appointment. and because I was moving to another address i changed my address online also fill out the AR-11 application . right now they send me an OS155A it’s a welcome notice for immigrant visa and alien registration and i didn’t apply for it my application was I-751 to remove condition of residence also the receipt number of this welcome notice is different than the receipt number of the first one (when they extended my conditional residency) i’m really confused i don’t khnow what the form OS155A means? and what should i do? please help me .



Sami

merry
I think you should call them. I dont think it’s a big deal sometimes they send the welcome letter from your first green card late (after years).
you should be alright.



mery

thanks sami , i really appreciate that . i was confused but right now i feel ok. i called them and they told me to call again in 15 nov if i didn’t receive a notice of ASC appointment and i’m still waiting .



TIMBO

Hello everyone.

lucky…seems like our day to receive GCs is on horizon. With the postings and Melhan’s experience it does seem that it will take 8-10 months.

I’ve sent mine in April.. so if Vermont center moves along (hopefully without extended holiday break) may be feruary march. But. the processing time as of today Nove 25.

Will be in touch… Although we are in waiting club. but at least it keeps us in perspective of what are the time frames.

THis site has helped me a lot.



LUCKY

HELLO TIMBO.

YES, I KNOW THE GC IS COMMING AND IF WE ARE VERY LUCKY WE CAN RECEIVED FOR XMAS!!!!

KEEP US POSTED FOR ANY NEWS



cindy

my GC is expired already.can i travel abroad with my extension letter that sent by uscis? what will be the common question will they ask in the port of entry? thank you..



DeeDee

I have applied for I751 at the Vermont service center on February 14, 2008, biometrics completed at the beginning of March. I went to the Immigration office thjis morning to have my passport stamped with an extension and they told me they will be processing my case in January 2009 because of the holidays. So, even though the website said they are processing cases from November 30,2007 expect to have them processing cases slower from now on. This is not good news but I thought I would give everybody the heads up. This waiting is painful.



MOE

Hey everybody, I have a question. I mailed my paperwork of on November 7th.08 to the Vermont Service Center, got my biometric appointment on December 6th in Dallas Forth Worth. That is a saturday. Sounds wrong to me or what do you think? Anyway I thought I am supposed to receive an extension letter first, before I have the biometric appointment. My problem now is that I am currently in Germany for a couple of months and my GC expires on January 4th. So what should I do if I don’t receive the extension letter soon? Can I go and get a stamp at immigrations, when I am in the states for my biometrics? Chee this is nerv racking. I called and the lady said she cannot say anything until the 30 day period would be over. Oh and I cannot check my case online, because I don’t have the right Receipt number. Wonderful. My husband is deployed and my daughter and I are staying for some months with my family in Germany for time killing.
Any advice what I should do next?
Thanks



LUCKY

GOOD NEWS GUYS!!!!!

VERMONT IS MOVING… DEC 30 2007, WE ARE ALMOST THERE..

KEEP POSTED.



LUCKY

MOE,

SATURDAY IS OK. I SUGGEST YOU SHOULD CONTACT THE USA EMBASSY AND EXPLAIN YOUR CASE OR GET A STAMPED ON YOUR PASSPORT.

EXTENSION LETTERS THEY COULD TAKE FROM 1 WEEK UP TO ONE MONTH,

GOOD LUCK



MOE

Thanks guys, I called USCIS again. Oh wonder there was a very competent person on the phone. My card expires on January 04th 2009. So she said I should set up an Infopass appointment. I did that, but San Antonio only has the first week each month appointments. So I have the infopass on the 4th and the Biometrics on the 6th. If I receive the extension letter before the Infopass appointment, I cancel it. I want to spend Christmas in Germany and my husband want to come for his R&R to Germany as well. Less traveling for him. I just hope they won’t bug about 2 days earlier, before the 30 days period. So I get a stamp and that’s it? What should I tell them? I plan on traveling for a bit in Europe, until my husband returns from Iraq. Traveling is ok with the stamp or the extension letter right. What is the deal with a reentry permit. That is confusing.



MOE

Thanks Lucky



LUCKY

HELLO.

ANY APPROVALS??????? ANYONE?????



Pejeto

Sent I-751 may 9 2008
Received USCIS May 12 2008
Package was rejected and sent back to me

Resent I-751 – Mailed on MAy. 29 2008 VSC
NOA – Rec’vd Jun 6, 2008
Biometrics – Jul 10, 2008
Card Production – ?

HOw is Vermont doing?



Sami

still nothing Lucky still waiting…
Application received Feb 28th 2008 my understanding is they working on the End of Dec begininig Jan applications right now

And we’re still waiting



Jess

nothing yet lucky on my end..

Sent to VERmont on 2/26
Bio – 3/19

Still waiting..

hoping to hear something by mid january.. !!! i check the site daily.. just in case..



RVP

Hi everyone! Just thought I would share my experience…
filed I-751 on 09/12/08,
received by the uscis on 09/15/08
Received NOA a week later
Received Biometrics appointment 11/18/08.

Anybody filed in CA? What happens next?



Stewart

Hi Guys,

I sent a I751 to VSC on 10/23/08. Had my fingerprints done on 11/28/08. So just a yeat to go, I guess. Such a waste of nervous energy!!

The things I was wondering about was, I read up 8 CFR 216.4, which deals with granting the I 751s, and they say that the I 751 applications either have to be approved or brought for interviewing within ninety days of getting the application. So, since VSC got my application on 10/23/08, they should either call me for interview or approve a 10 year GC by 1/23/08, which they won’t, sadly.

Does anyone else have any experience with this? Do they just ignore the CFR section?

Thanks,



Chic

Hi everyone!
My timeline:
Oct 08 Submitted 1-751+evidences
Nov 2008 – Biometrics
Dec 19 2008 – another Biometrics sched (they said I need to retake as fingerprints were not clear?)

I read that a lot of people with similar cases have experienced the same thing – retake of fingerprinting etc.
I was hoping I won’t get a second ASC appointment and I did today! Oh well.

Thanks and I am now on the same boat as everyone else here…waiting waiting waiting.

Cheers to all!
Chic



LUCKY

VERMONT IS MOVING….. AS OF NOV 18 THEY WERE IN DEC 30 2007 CASES…..

SO HOPE MY JAN O FEB WE HAVE OUR 10 YRS GC.

BY THE WAY GUYS, ANYONE RECEIVE NOTHING LIKE ” SEND MORE PROVE OF DOCUMENTS FOR MARRIAGE?

ON MY END NOTHING…. JUST WAITING.

RVP… YOU ARE LUCKY TO SENT TO CALIFORNIA, THAT PLACE MOVE FASTER.. JUST WAIT FOR YOUR BIOS APPOINTMENT AND WELCOME TO THE WAITING…. CLUB.

LET US KEEP POSTED



Timbo

VERMONT SEEMED TO BE MOVING. BUT AS OF TODAY (DEC 11,2008) IT STILL SHOWS DEC.30,2007 FOR PROCESSING DATE.

I AM STILL IN WAITING CLUB.

HOPE THEY’LL PROCESS QUICKER IN NEW YEAR.

GOOD LUCK. I’LL KEEP POSTING.



Mary

Hi! 6 months ago, i sent my I-751 application to the CA service center. Got biometrics appointment and 1yr. extension letter after 2 weeks. After that my husband and i waited for couple months and i finally got my 10 yr. permanent resident card.



Chula

Happy Holidays everyone! Hope you are enjoying them with your foreign loved one :)

Case stats;

Branch: California
Expiration Date: 12/08/08
Filed I -751: 9/16/08
1 year extension recd: 9/23/08
Biometrics notice recd: 11/12/08
Bio appt: 11/29/08
Case status: pending

My husbands current Resident card expired on 12/08/08. We received the 1 year extension letter. However his employer is still giving him problems about not having a new card.

I heard someone say they got an extension stamp in their passport. How do you go about doing this?

Has anyone else had problems with employers due to not having the official greencard with a future date? Or is there anything else we can do besides show our 1 yr extension letter to his employer??

Please help!

Thanks



chris

Need help to determine whether “N/A” or “None” is required for form I-751

I have been doing quite a bit of research on this topic but noting adequate came across my readings.

The only information I gathered was the following:

1) Do note enter “N/A” when “None” is appropriate.

2) Do not leave any answers blank. If they don’t apply to you put N/A in the space provided.

and so on…

So without going on and on, I would appreciate somebody who is either familiar with submitting immigration forms an attorney, paralegal or a petitioner who filed form I-751 and didn’t have any problems with the application to let me know what to put when I have to leave a field blank.

I need to know this for the following fields on the I-751:

Part 1:
Full Middle Name
Apt.#
C/O
Mailing Address

Part3:
#1
#4
Part4:
A#
Part5:
Part7:

Again, all above will be kept blank, therefore, I need to know whether N/A, None or even keeping the field blank is an option (I know of people that filed and left fields blank and didn’t have a problem with that.

Example: Part 5 whether you have children. Some people say it has to be “none”, whereas some other folks say, “N/A, of course!” So,if I can get a straightforward answer on this (preferably filing out above mentioned parts) that would be great as I believe it will help other people tremendously searching for answers here/online as well.



Feliks

How this affidevit of Acknowlegment looks like?



Feliks

sworn affidavits from people – is there special form? How it looks like?



LUCKY

CHULA

GET AN INFO PASS USCIS.GOV

AND IT DHOULD NOT HAVE ANY PROBLEMS W WITH THE EXTENSION LETTER IT IS A LEGAL DOCUMENT FROM USCIS.

GOOD LUCK



LUCKY

FELIKS

SEARCH THE WEB FOR SAMPLES I-751 AFFIDAVITS. REALLY THEY ARE NOT COMPLICATED… I SENT TWO OF THEM

BUT BE SURE THEY ARE NOTARIZED. YOUR BANK SHOULD HAVE THAT FREE SERVICE.

REALLY IT IS A LETTER OF YOUR FRIENDS, PARENTS ETC… TELLING THAT TEHY KNOW TOU SINCE ETC… LIVED IN…ETC..

GOOD LUCK



jackielou

2 years ago after my husbands interview in seattle i remember the interviewer saying that we will be back there 2 years from now. so we were waiting for a letter saying when our interview.. then yesterday my husband just noticed that his green card will expired on february 5, 2009. So we panicked and did all the research. we included all the requirements but i didn’t included a cover letter? is that necessary? also in the uscis website they stated that you must file 90 days before the expiration of our 2nd year anniversary.. I included a letter saying why our form was delay. Now i’m just waiting for any letters from them. But my husband and i will be going to hawaii on january 22, 2009. we already purchased our ticket 2 months ago. and we are broke due to this filling fee. and we can’t afford to reschedule my flights. is it okey to leave the US. even thought his alien card is almost expired?



mery

hello everybody happy new year , i received my green card three days ago and they didn’t call me even for an interview the last step was my fingerprint on December 12,2008. I’m really happy and thanks for everything.



Sami

congrats merry
vermont is working right now on jan, feb applications
we hope hearing something this month.



z & e

Hi,
My husband and I we filed jointly on May 23rd 2008 to Texas Center and received NOA stating application was transfered to Vermon Center on May 30th. Last update update done on application was 09/30/08 according to the account we created on USCIS to keep track of the application. According to processing times for Vermont center, they are working on receipts dated Dec.30, 2008 this was posted Nov.18, 2008. Does anyone know if this will go according to plan? If I’m not mistaken my husband should receive his 10yr card around april-may 2009. Am I correct? Shoud I start inquiring with USCIS now January 09?
Thanks.



z & e

I need to make a correction, according to the USCIS website posted on Nov,18, 2008 they are working on December 30, 2007.



Ravi

Hey All,

I’m filing for my I751 this coming week. I have everything done, but the affidavits which I should have in a couple days.

How long does it take to get a response with the extension of the card? I have a bit more than a month left. YES….I know I procrastinated, but I had a lot going on last month.

Any comments will be appreciated.

Thanks

R



Bodhi

Hi I am about to sent in my i-175 problem is its a month late my green card expired a on 11 of dec 2008. Silly me…

I have alot of photos and paperwork to prove our marriage.

Has anybody successfully filed a late i-175 and what was the excuse you used for filing late ??

Thanks is advance for your input..



Timbo

LUCKY SAMI… any news.. or are we still waiting. the site still has the same date of processing.
My guess it will 12 months period before we hear anything ..

Does anyone know how long it took Mery to get hers? Did she filein ( case transfered to) Vermont center as well?



MARTIN

To LUCKY or whoever knows about it…I have a question!
On Jun 08 I sent a 751 to VT Center, I received a extension letter for a year but not fingerprints appointment yet. I’ve seen that the processing time is taking more than a year. In case I don’t receive an apointment before my due date (Jun 09), do you know if I have to quit my job? or there’s something I can do about it?



Sami

Bodhi

Some people had a probleme when they filled late. I don’t know what to tell you but I think you should go see a lawyer becaus they may return your package.



Sami

Timbo
Still nothing here I’m still waiting it’s gonna be 11 months on Jan 28 for me may understanding though is they’re working on February applications right now so I guess it’s my time too. I will keep posting

Lucky is quiet may be he got something
LOL



Sami

Martin
If you didn’t get fingerprinted yet you should call them because it’s not normal to take over 6 months for fingerprints.
call them and let us know.



LUCKY

HELLO GUYS.

NOTHING YET… STILL WAITING AND STILL THE USCIS SITE SAYS NOV 18 2008 WORKING ON CASES FROM DEC 2007.

SO I GUESS ANY TIME SOON WILL ARRIVE FOR ME IS GOING TO BE 9 MONTHS WAIT I SENT MY APPLICATION ON APRIL 24 2008.

KEEP POSTED FOR ANY NEWS. OK



MARTIN

Sami, I called and they say that they will send a request to get this done. They also say that in case the expiration time arrives, we need to get an appointment at the closest USCIS office to get an extension. Anyways is not our fault it takes such a long time.



LUCKY

guys.

vermont is moving working on cases of january 27 2008….. almost there

keep posted



Sami

Well Martin
I’ve been waiting for 11 months now .
You should call them back if they dont answer you in 30 days.



Ravi

We sent our packet overnight on January 16th and it was received on January 20th because of the weekend and the holiday. I received my one year extension on January 24th. Not too bad. Now I just have to wait another year.



Sami

Take your seat RAVI
filed on FEB 28th



john12345

Hello Everyone I am hoping that you guys can help- I need to send out our package Tomorrow/today/now! and the timing matters as we are at the end, Does Anyone know the BEST way to send it? I was told Fed Ex– However I have not seen that written here. (just read the entire blog- wow)

Thanks to everyone for sharing- I guess we are lucky as we have CA service. I am concerned as our deadline is Jan-29

What is the best carrier to use? Thanks a ton – Any kind answers swiftly would be so greatly appreciated- Good Luck J



Rose

Filed Feb 25, 2008 Vermont , 11th month waiting. I was expecting 10 months only some took them 13 months.



Naz

You can send via FedEx overnight or USPS overnight with delivery confirmation. You should be OK, good luck.



Sami

John
I sent mine thru USPS express mail
It doesen’t matter how u send it all it matters is to have a proof.



Sami

Rose we’re Three days appart LOL
They received mine on the 28th
good luck.



Rose

Guys,
I am going out of the country, my passport shows my previous lastname, but my greencard has different one since i got married. question: will there be any problem in the port of entry when they compare my passport and green card with different last name? any one encoun tered like this? what did you do



MARTIN

Rose, my wife change her last name, we have the same problem. She got a new passport very quick by using the fast service on the state department. All took less than a week.



LUCKY

hello Guys it is end of january, SOMEONE has any recent approvals???????

keep posted, I check every day the mail just nothing……yet



Rose

VERMONT IS GETTING SLOWER AND SLOWER SOME GOT 8 MOS, THEN 9 MOS THEN NOW ITS 11TH MONTH .NEXT MONTH IS THE 12TH..I FILED MINE FEB 25TH 2008 IN VERMONT..ANYONE GOT APPROVED FOR JAN?



tammy

hi guys

my brother in law just came and he also has to file for the i-751.when willl be the best time to file?can u please also tell me what will be the best documents to send as proof?he came on 1/31/09.



bear

Lucky

I filed mine in February 19th 2008, Biometrics in March and I got the letter in the mail on Friday 30th Jan that the conditional status was removed and they had ordered my card production. Since you filed yours in April I suspect that you don’t have long to wait.

Good Luck Everyone



Diana

Just like Bear, my application was received in Vermont on February 20, 2008, completed biometrics in March 08 but I haven’t received anything yet. This waiting is getting painful….
If any of you filed around the same date, please keep us posted if you receive anything from USCIS.
Oh, and I wanted to help everyone that contributed to this website!



Rose

Sammi,Diana

Same here , I filed Feb 25 in Vermont but still waiting hope those are waiting and if they got your approval pls inform here.



Diana

Today, I have checked online the receipt # on my I751 and it said that on February 5, 2009 they have ordered my card production and that I should allow 30 days for mailing. Wow! What a trip!
So I guess now I am just waiting for the card itself!



Rose

Diana,

cingratulations!! MIne was file Feb 25th in Vermont but still waiting. I check everyday



FIRENZE

This is a great resource for filing the I-751 and i must say I’m delighted to have come across it.

From the recent posts to the above discussion I gather that the USCIS office at Vermont is averaging over a year in processing the I-751. Does anybody know how long does the California branch take?

Is there a list of locations where one can go to submit their biometrics once they are contacted by USCIS? I live in a small town, and the closest “big city” is at least a 100 miles away, and I don’t know whether it will qualify as big enough of a city to have an official USCIS biometrics collection office…



Timbo

Diana congrats!!!… The rest of us here, I am sure wating eagerly fro that moment of weight from the shoulders..

NOthing has been updated on Vermont Center since Jan 27. posting.

Lucky anything yet



LUCKY

Timbo..

Nothing yet for me guys. Vermont is taking forevever I check my status online and still appear apllication received april 24 and transfer to vermont on the 27….

hope the waiting is not that long…

Keep posted ok



Sami

still nothing here rose .
If i don’t hear nothing by the end of this week i’m going to contact my senator it’s getting ridiculous, 12 months is a lot.



lily

I mailed my I-751 package Jan.29,2009. And I got NOA Feb.10 2009. Now I am waiting my fingerprints notice. Anyhow I am on the waiting jounery.



LUCKY

GUYS, HOW DO YOU CONTACT YOUR SENATORS? DO YOU WRITE A LETTER ? OR WHAT IS THE CASE.

PLEASE EXPLAIN?



Naz

I filed in March 2008. Yesterday, I have received the mail saying I got approval and card will be mail within 60 days.
So I guess now I am just waiting for the card itself!
I remember something after sending the application- I never notarized the two affidavit letters even though they approved the application. Good luck all.



Rose

Pls Those are being approved dont forget to mention the Service Center if its from CA or Vermont so that we know where we are now. I file Feb 25 frm Vermont but still waiting Im sure those Feb filed are wondering that there is March approved is that CA or Vermont. Thank you.



Sami

Rose
He is in Vermont they’re working right now on march applications already me and you we’re late already I’m contacting my Senator on Tuesday the 17th



Jess

Hello, Lucky!! im back.. well last week my we got a letter on my husband’s 1-751. They apparently need more info on his case.. thats ridicoulus!! i sent them everything but the kitchen sink… I sent my husband’s packet back in Feb of 2008 in Texas then it was sent to VT there after. Has anyone that has been told to sent more evidence… got their Card soon after? I have to submit if before March 22nd.

Which im doing this week, the sooner the better.. but i feel like im just being redundant with the information im about to sent, The only thing that its not on both our name is our mortgage, and that is because my husband bought it before we married.. and i had horrible credit. but everything else is in both our names… has anyone been in this situation as to what to send when more evidence is needed? Im frustrated and a little insane.. were so close… and this wrench comes a along.. I love my hubby.. and his extension will be over in May. please share..



LUCKY

Jess,

Just sent more photos, valentine’s cards etc…. And if you want write a letter saying that your husband bought that house before married and you have a poor credit bla, bla, bla signed by both of you. And whatever things you can imagine just send them. Your recent income tax etc….

I read in others forums that sometimes they request more evidence…..I so frustrating.

This waiting is getting me tired…. I am april 24 vermont and still nothing .

NAZ did you file to CA OR VERMONT? So we know where we at?

SAMI

how do you contact your Senator? Can you explain a little ?

Please share anything that comes up.



Naz

Sorry guys, I filed in Vermont, March 2008. Waiting for my card to arrive. I will let you know when I get.



Rose

any February filers? aside from me and SAMI we are still waiting…VT is now working for March filers…hoping for no problem in my case.



Sami

Lucky and Rose.

I Faxed my information to senator Bill nelson of Florida yesterday I will call them today to see if they received it and what’s next.
All you do Lucky is look for the websites of your two senators and choose one of them.
They will ask you to fill up a consent form to let them inquire on your behalf (you should find the consent form on their web site)
Fax it or mail it to them with a letter explaining what your problems are. And they will call the INS on your behalf.
I’ ll let you guys Know



Sami

Rose
Jess Filled in Feb too.
We are 3



Hamza

Hello,

I am an April 9, 2008 filling. I did the fingerprints in May..just waiting to hear. Does anyone know if i should send more evidence in the mean while, we just had baby # 2? So I could send that BC aswell. Also do they ever do an interview again for I-751?

Thanks



Sami

Hamza
there is interview in less than 10% of the cases most of the people do not get it



MrsD

I have to say that this post has been extremely helpful!! Thanks a bunch.



MrsD

As I said in my previous post – the information was great.

But this is my case. I failed to submit my I-751 on time. What I did do tho is submit my I-90 on time, but was unaware that I had to submit my I-751 – i had lost the form (during a recent move) where it said i was a conditional resident and i had marked that i was a permanent resident (not a commuter). I got my “notice of decision” in the mail on Feb 14th stating that they denied me because i had not removed my conditional status. I was and still am devasted about this because it says in there that I my status now is automatically terminated. I called legal aid and they said that i could still in fact send in my I-751. On the form tho it asks if I am in “removal, deportation or rescission proceedings?” Am i? And has anyone had any positive outcome with this? I am so scared!! I love my husband dearly – I don’t want to be taken away from him. We have known each other for 8 years and been married for almost 3 now. Please if anyone has any advice… i can really use it.

thanks



Timbo

MRSD.. i honestly don’t have experience with you situation. My first instinct would be try to seek legal help. Consult with immigration attorney would be best idea.. if possible get him/her involved. Otherwise, the choices seem slim. I would go ahead fill out rescission proceedings option. Along with many ( the more the better) evidence documents to send with your I-751 send a copy of your letter. I would include also a personal letter stating what your case is and that you’ve made a human error, unintentional mistake… and this where I think lawyer can be very useful with getting all this documentation and proper forms. Good luck .. I hope it works out for you.Just start the process immediately. as it is the wait time is long particularly for cases that get transfered to Vermont center..



Timbo

SAMI, LUcky,

Guys.. seems like Vermont processing march apps. but i don’t think this for sure.. at least not until they update their website. How is the letter with senator working out? Have you heard any response?

I think the website will be only updated in March. so for right now as it states .. Jan 08 apps being processed.

If the trend is continued, then the approx. 1 year processing time. so they should be still working on jan and Feb apps. and March ones possible since Naz received. But I don’t think it’s time to panic about it at least for now..

Well still in waiting club.. FILED IN APRIL.
Good luck guys.. keep in touch.



Sami

Timbo
3 Days now since I faxed my letter to the Senator and 357 days since i filled my I751 and still waiting .

any News Rosa



Pejeto

I filed my I751 in vermont in may 2008, NOw they are saying that they transferrred my case to california SC to speed Up the Process and they have jurisdiccion over the case now. anyone with the same situation?



Rose

Im a bit im panic since Naz got the approval for he had filed it March..mine is Feb 25 as well as with Sami though looking at their proceesing is still Jan 27…Any more Feb 2008 filers waiting other than me and Sami?



Hamza

Sami I have a question for you, or anyone else who may have some insights. I am waiting for my I-751 approval, in the meanwhile I did receive a letter stating that I can work and travel for a year. However, I lost my expired green card. The question is “do you think is ok to travel to US Vrigin Islands for vacation” with just my CT driver license and that letter stating that I can travel. Since it’s a US terrority and not considered international travel..I think I am say. It a direct flight from NY.

Thanks
Hamza



LUCKY

HELLO GUYS!!!!!

MRSD
YOU BETTER HURRY UP AND START SEARCHING FOR A GOOD IMMIGRATION LAWYER THAT CAN ADVISE YOU. THE APPLICATION I-751 IT IS EASY TO FILL OUT , SO DO IT, ALSO TRY TO GATHER THE MOST PAPERS, PHOTOS, INCOME TAX…. ANYTHING THAT PROVE YOU ARE IN A REAL MARRIAGE. AND A LETTER EXPLAINING WHY? YOU FILE LATE AND BETTER SIGN BY BOTH OF YOU

TIMBO.
HI, NOTHING ON MY SIDE AND WE ARE APRIL FILERS… I HAVE NOT RECEIVED NOTHING AT ALL KEEP POSTED WE ARE ALMOST THERE.

PEGETO.
HI. LONG TIME!!! THAT IS SO BIZARRE!! DID THEY SENT YOU A LETTER? OR YOU SEARCH YOUR CASE ONLINE? MAYBE VERMONT IT IS SO PACKED THAT THEY ARE SENDING TO CA THAT IT SEEMS IT IS FASTER. I AM APRIL FILER AS TIMBO AND WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANYTHING.

ROSE.

DON’T PANIC!!! YOUR EXTENSION LETTER STILL VALID? WHY YOU DON’T MAKE AN INFOPASS?

HAMZA.

REGARDING YOUR TRAVEL, I GUESS IT IS NOT A PROBLEM, BUT BETTER ASK A LAWYER.

PLEASE KEEP POSTED OF ANY NEWS.



Aida

Hi All,

i just checked the uscis website and vermont has been updated to March 2nd. i have a long way to go. filled mine in August



Hamza

Lucky, I have a question for you. I read an earlier post in which you traveled abroad with just showing a Letter of Extension ( the intial I-797 NOA they send)? Is this right?

Thanks
Hamza



LUCKY

HAMZA

I TRAVEL WITH MY EXPIRED GREEN CARD AND WITH MY EXTENSION LETTER AND PASSPORT.

VERMONT…. IS MOVING…… YUPPY



Hamza

Lucky, I lost my expired green card. So I should get my passport stamped and use that with the extension letter?

Thanks for your help
Hamza



MrsD

Hey guys – thanks I took your advice.. my husband and i are meeting with an attorney TOMORROW the attorney has been amazing, she said that she had to be in the office tomorrow and because of the time sensitivity she agreed to meet us with no additional charge. WOW.. i am feeling better thanks I have all my documents ready except for a few extra affidavits from friends.
i file at the california service center.



Sami

Rose
Now they’re workin on March 2nd applications which means that we re behind.
I’ll call them and the senator’s offive on Monday.
I’ll keep posting.

Goood for you Pegeto if you were sent to California they have only 3 months waiting time over there.



Rose

Sami,Lucky

I will wait till mid of March , if nothing still I will make an appt thru info pass. its weird i dont receive anything if any problem, any more Feb filers that are behind ?



Mike

USCIS in CA received my I-751 on March 8th 08. I got my 1 year extension, did my biometrics… And I’m still waiting…



LUCKY

HAZMA

TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WILL HAPPEN. I TRAVEL ABROAD SO AT THE ENTRANCE TO USA I DID NOT HAVE A PROBLEM AT ALL. BUT YOU ARE SAYING YOU ARE TRAVELING TO A US TERRITORY. SO IT SHOULD BE NO PROBLEM.

ROSE

KEEP US POSTED IF YOU RECEIVE SOMETHING.

TO ALL KEEP US INFORM ON WHATEVER NEWS COMES UP.

MY CASE STILL PENDING I JUST CHECK IT WITH MY # ONLINE AND STILL SAYS…… YOUR CASE WAS RECEIVED AND TRANSFER TO VERMONT……BLA BLA.

MRSD

LET US KNOW WHAT HAPPENED OK,



Bonnie

We’re about to file the form I-751. Part 5 says to list your children. Is that only from our marriage? Also, my husband already did the biometrics when he got the temporary card. Does he have to redo it? If so, why?



MrsD

Well today our lawyer sent in the paperwork – we had a few misc paperwork to send her – but she did everything else on saturday which was amazing!! If anyone needs a recommendation for a lawyer in MN let me know. So all we have to do now is wait. O yes… the lawyer called the immigration court to see if anything was filed there with regards to my missing I-751 and nothing yet! thank goodness so hopefully they receive all before they get into gear in filing at the court.

thanks again for your advice will keep you posted.



Evans

I have been following up on the info thats posted on this page and i thank ya’ll that participated, i have a GC thats expiring in May ’09 and i have all my supporting documents ready, just counter-checking then send them to VT this weekend 28th Feb 09, any suggestions are more than welcome

thanks



Rose

Sami,Lucky

My lawyer told me not to go for info pass yet ,since mine is Feb 25 its still early to follow up , he said that it happens a bit behind but has to wait 30 days from Feb 25 and he will call the Immigration again. So Ill wait till next month.



z & e

Vermont Center Processing times says 6 months for 751…I guess that’s a good sign who has any idea of how we can calculate timeframes?



Timbo

z & E

i think you made a mistake .. the site still shows March 02, 2008

Lucky, Sami how is it going guys?

Still nothing on my side.. keep posting



Sami

Z&E is so wrong
I’m still waiting guys



LUCKY

Just waiting…..

keep posted.



Ana Maria

hi, im putting up together all the paper work that i need to send my aplication, my residency expires an june 06 2009. i dont have anyone to help me to fill out this paperwork so im doing it by my own but im afraid that i can do something wrong and my application woukd be denied. I have two questions, first idont know if they are still needing us to send the 2 passport pictures, and second i dont know i the affidavits letters are a requirment os just an optional thing, also i dont know if i just can send a letter with the signature or i have to make it with a notary. If anyone ca help me please i will appreciate it, im kinda desperated. Thanks



Bonnie

Ana,

Per the instructions, you don’t have to include the photos unless..
Exception Those who reside overseas pursuant to military or government orders, including conditional resident dependents residing overseas and listed under Part 5 of the form, must submit the following items with Form I-751 1. Two passport-style photos for applicants and dependents, regardless of age.

The affidavit is just one of the many ways you can prove your relationship but doesn’t seem to be mandatory.



z & e

I apologize I did make a mistake!



LUCKY

SAMI, TIMBO , ROSE, PEJETO AND TO ALL.

YESTERDAY I RECEIVED A BEAUTIFUL LETTER ON THE MAIL. I AM APPROVED!!!!! WITH NO INTERVIEW. IT SAYS… CONGRATULATIONS YOUR CONDITIONS HAS BEEN REMOVED, ALLOWED 60 DAYS TO RECEIVED YOUR CARD IT IS OVER!!!!!!!!!

MY TIME LINE TO ALL

SEND APRIL 24 TO TEXAS TRANSFER TO VERMONT ON APRIL 28
FINGER APPOINTMENT ON MAY 17 2008 APPROVED MARCH 02 2008 LIKE A 10 MONTH WAIT

WHAT I SENT

2 INCOME TAX FILED TOGETHER
2 AFFIDAVIT OF AUNT AND COUSIN
COPY OF BANK STATEMENTS
COPY OF OUR LEASE WAS FOR SIX MONTHS
COPY OF THE PURCHASE OF 2 CARS BOTH UNDER MY NAME HUSBAND POOR CREDIT
COPY OF ELECTRICITY BILL
COPY OF OUR DENTAL INSURANCE PLAN CARDS
COPY OF AFLAC INSURANCE PLAN
AND 3 FOTOS

I WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN MY CARD ARRIVES.

KEEP POSTED



Rose

oh my God! Lucky congrats !!mine is Feb 25 but still waiting



Hamza

Congrats Lucky,

So you were an April 24,2008 case.?I am april 15th 2008 Vermont and still nothing.

Thanks
Hamza



Timbo

Lucky,

CONGRATS to you.. this is definetely a positive sign.. a big monkey off your back.. the rest of us only hope to get the same.. Good luck to you..



Rose

Sami,

Any news? i know you are also behind like me. If nothing comes up til 25th then i have definitely the info pass appt.



joe

I’m march 2nd @ Vermont…still waiting



Sami

Rose
Still nothing here it has been 12 months and 3 days so Far.
congrats Lucky by the way can you tell us where you from?



Hamza

Hello,

I also received my approval letter today. It says date of decision 02/27/09. I filed April 15 08, in Vermont.

I don’t know if this is a coincident but on 2/23/09 i sent additional evidence, (Birth of child #2), they did NOT request it..i just wanted to add more and then a coupld days later ..the approval.

Keep stong everyone else waiting!

Thanks
Hamza



Timbo

Hamza,

Congrats on your approval.. Still waiting.. Still chekcing the mail box for any news..

By any chance you guys who received approval received any email from Case Status website… I created account to check on status but it’s all the same. I’m wondering if you checked to see if it actually had the decision there as well.



Rose

Congrats!

Sami, we are behind again truly!!



LUCKY

HELLO GUYS.

I WAS AT WORK AN MY BROTHER CALL ME RIGHT AWAY … YOU GOT SOMETHING ON THE MAIL… AT THAT SAME TIME I ENTER INTO THE USCIS SITE AND CHECK THE STATUS ONLINE AND IT SAY NOTHING… THE SAME THING SINCE IT WAS RECEIVED AT VERMONT

SO MY BROTHER WAS READING THE LETTER I START CRYING REALLY IT HAS BEEN A WILD RIDE FOR ME.

AS SOON I GET MY CARD I WILL LET YOU GUYS KNOW.

TO ALL… BE PATIENCE IT WILL ARRIVE SOONER OR LATER.

KEEP POSTED



Hamza

Timbo,

Even though I received the approval letter, the case status still shows the same old message about pending. So don’t go too much on that. Looks like they did a big approval on 02/27, and mailed from VT on 03/02…so should be hitting mailboxes this week.

Good Luck



linda

Hi, Guys,
I have a question to ask. Is anyone who has experience to renew your driver license when you are waiting your ten years green card?



linda

Hi, Sami,
I sent my papers to CA centera in Feb 09,is it really 3 months waiting like you said above?If that, it will be wonderful.I live in MO. Here even there have problems to renew my DL. showing them my extended papare to them as if they never deal with this before. Today I will go the city hall making another try.



Sami

Linda
the extension is more than enough to renew your DL.
good luck
still waiting here



Timbo

Sami, Lucky, and others..

The news finally have come.. I just received email CRIS from dhs.gov.. and it states that on Mar.5,09 they ordered a production of a new card… 30 days

My timeline… Sent in on Apr.14,08..

I haven’t received a letter in the mail, but signed up on dhs.gov for case status notification. Never actually thought that the notification system would work.

Guys such weight off the shoulder…

keep posting.. Will be in touch..good luck



faith

Applied to Vermont October 12,2008
Finger Prints after 2 weeks

Got Notice today, March 5,2009 that my case has been transferred to California Service Center for further processing.

Please share with same process. I think this is something new and hoping I will get card soon.



Sami

congrats Timbo



Rose

congrats!!! timbo

still waiting overe here..filed Feb 25 VSC.



LUCKY

timbo
congrats…..still waiting for the card on the mail



tony

i filed i-751 in 01/07 , they cash the check 02/11/09 , but i still waitting …..no letter , nothing mail to me ………someone same problem , tell me , help me , i think make appointment in 03/09 to see immigration officer .



Aida

i received a letter stating my paperwork was transferred to California on Feb 26. sent my application to Vermont Aug 2008.



Rose

SAMI,

any news? or any one still behind like me? vsc filed feb 25, 2008 but still waiting…



Sami

Still nothing Rose.
even with the senator it’s still nothing



Evans

I Submitted my i-751 on 02/28/09 to the vermont centre and they received my app on 03/03/09 got my one year extension on 03/08/09 now awaiting for my biometrics appointment, i’ll probably take a seat and queue like everyone else and hope not to be called for one of those nerve cracking interviews…



joe

filed March 10 at Vermont…still waiting



wicket

Hi guys,

My card will expires this Aug 2009. I wonder if anyone here didnt include their state and federal tax in the packet? My husband has a debt from IRS so we decided to file separately. Please advise.



linda

Is Aanyone know what means ” touched”. We need to touched with USCIS?



Timbo

Rose

how is it going? any news?

sami

any news for you..

guys who filed recently, all i can say.. this will test your patience.. but this blog here helped to get through it. I hope it will help you too.. good luck. I’ll try to keep in touch



Rose

sami,

Tom. Monday i will go infopass im already worried though my lawyer istelling me to wait till 22nd (1 month) and they will wrtie a letter to follow up, but i cant wait even in other websites mostly are appoved up to April filers.

Any one other than me and Sami behind?



Naz

I filed in March 2008.
FINALLY, last week I received my card.
That was a long journey!

Some info – I remember something after sending the application- I never notarized the two affidavit letters even though they approved the application. Good luck to you all.



Sami

Rose
any news from the infopass?



Rose

Sami,

Nothing new when I went there they just stamped my passport for another yr, and they asked me to call USCIS if there are some paper works and they were in a hurry I did not have a chance to ask why still mine is behind the date…



John

Hi every one!

Thanks for the information you all have provided here. I have to file after May 10, 2009. Please provide us additional information or necessary steps, which would help us to go through the path you went before us.

Regards

John.



Amina

This has been the longest journey of our lives!!!! Okay…So my husband sent his stuff Feb. 28, 2008, it was received March 28, 2008. He has still not done his biometric fingerprints, and when we called they told us that our zip code in Florida contains a lot of immigrants thus causing this great delay. They told us they will most likely send another 1-yr valid letter. HELP!! Does anyone have any advice? I am so fed up with our lovely immigration process!



bluebell

I had my fingerprints taken before I went to the first interview, before I got my conditional green card. Why in the world I would need to go again for fingerprints? This is absolutely ridiculous, did my fingerprints change in two years?



bluebell

What is the best way to mail the papers so I can have proof that INS received them? I have to mail them to California, in Laguna Niguel!



Sami

Amina
It took a month For USCIS to get your file?
and almost a year and still no biometrics?
I can swear to you they lost your file you should keep bugging them it’s too long.
good luck
Bluebell USPS express mail would do it



LUCKY

TO ALL

I RECEIVED MY CARD ON MONDAY….. GOOD LUCK TO ALL BE PATIENCE.

I WILL TRY TO ENTER TO THE SITE FROM TIME TO TIME.



MAI

Congratz Lucky…!

I have sort of a good news too, when I check online for my husband’s application status, it says they transferred his application to CALIFORNIA on 2/26/09! We filed on September 22, 2008. I think that’s a good thing – CA is faster than VT.

I wish everyone in here GOODLUCK! All we can really do is wait.. & wait…



bluebell

Thanks Sami!



Rose

sami,

any news?



Sami

Rose
Still nothing 13 months now I called them and did a service request.
I called the senator’s office and they said that they still didn’t get an answer from them
we can only wait



Bonnie

Bluebell,

I too am confused as to why they need a 2nd biometrics. I can see that they would run another background check, but refingerprint? Just more $$. I sent my husband’s paperwork to Vermont by Priority mail with confirmation receipt on 3/9/09 and we got the extension letter on 3/17/09.



Sami

Rose, Lucky,Timbo and everybody else.

I just got today Saturday the most beautifull e-mail ever
*** DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS E-MAIL *** The last processing action taken on your case Receipt Number: XXXXXXXXX Application Type: CRI89 , PETITION TO REMOVE CONDITIONS OF PERMANENT RESIDENT STATUS RECEIVED Current Status: Card production ordered. On March 20, 2009, we ordered production of your new card. Please allow 30 days for your card to be mailed to you. If we need something from you we will contact you. If you move before you receive the card, call customer service. You can also receive automatic e-mail updates as we process your case. Just follow the link below to register. If you have questions or concerns about your application or the case status results listed above, or if you have not received a decision from USCIS within the current processing time listed*, please contact USCIS Customer Service at (800) 375-5283.

Guys hung in there and don’t give up the senator’s help was good I guess



Rose

sami congrats!

wheww!! m still waiting .



bluebell

Thanks Bonnie! I have a question about how you sent the docs. I saw that you sent them priority with confirmation, that means that someone had to sign for the envelope when they got it? Because I have to send mine to Laguna Niguel and I thought you cannot send anything with delivery confirmation since I send them to a PO Box.



bluebell

Sami,

That is great news, congratulations!
Now it’s my turn! :-)



Sami

thanks Rose and Blue
Any news guys?



Bonnie

Bluebell,

With delivery confirmation no one signs for it. It is scanned when it is delivered. You keep your ticket and check the tracking # at usps. There’s also a signature confirmation. I didn’t do that one.



Rose

sami,

nothing still waiting…13th month of waiting.



Sami

Rose
don’t just keep waiting I think you should call your senator.
This is too long



Rose

sami,

how to contact senator?



joe

12 months and 13 days waiting, today got my stamp for 1 more year, and they told that there too many I-751 cases thats why they are taking so long.
Last week a called USCIS, and they told that they sent to vermont a not e asking for my case and they told me that if I dont recieve any decision in 60 days, I should call them again.



Sami

Rose
look for the websites of the two senators that represent your state and choose one of them.
They will ask you to fill up a consent form to let them inquire on your behalf (you should find the consent form on their web site)
Fax it or mail it to them with a letter explaining what your problems are. And they will call the INS on your behalf.
The USCIS is pretty quick answering them
good luck



Timbo

SAMI, LUCKI .. guys,

Finally, couple days ago I got my new Green Card in the mail. A HUGE RELIEF..

Guys good luck… I’ll keep check in time to time.

Rose.. are keep checking CASE Status website where you enter your ID number to see the progress on your case?

This is too long. Have you moved while in process? Maybe address problems?

Definetely contact senator… Good luck..



Pejeto

FInaly I got My Letter of aproval its been 10 months and finaly they answerered. Ill be receiving My New GC in 60 days timeline anyone knows how long it look From Notice of Approval to actually get the GC Good Luck To all



Rose

Timbo,
i already went to infopass,and my new address is already entered, my passport was stamped for another yr,plus my lawyer already contacted uscis and e-mailed that it will take 60 days for the decision. therefore more wating ill try to go website for senators help.



Anja

Hi everyone, live in NY state, sended my I751 on august. got my first biometric for october, but go tlost on mail like the second one, finally my biometricts were taken on december. Last update was that it was moved to california. What is going to happen now??? Does it take to long??? it has been 8 months and is killing me!!!!!!!!!!!!



Aida

I just received my letter of approval. i sent my application August 16 to Vermont, paperwork was moved to California Feb 26. Approval given March 26.



Joe

I filed for 1-751 october 2007 at Vermont. Got my biometrics and one year ext. Any time I check my application status online or on the phone it says received and pending. This is 2009 and no GC. I requested an infopass. I was told my case is denied and my passport was stamped for 30 days of which I will appear before a judge. Has anyone experienced this? I need an advice on what to do. I’m running crazy.



Rose

Joe,

any hint that you you are denied? do you think you did not submit enough proof?



joe

Rose, I sent tons of proof, credit cards, rent, checking, saving, health and car insurance, photos, 3 notarized affidaivits,etc…
Yesterday I recieved a letter from vermont center responding because I called them on 3/17/09…
and the letter says that my case was recieved on 2/28/2008, and they are now processing petitions that were recieved on 1/27/2008.

Now I am confused, because online it says they are working on April 20, 2208, in addition to that, some people that sent the petition after me got the approval already….

anyway now I am more calm..
don’t woory rose evething is gonna be OK



Joe

Rose,
I believe I did not submit enough proof. Honestly it wasn’t enough because I don’t have enough proof.



bluebell

Joe,

It seems that you sent enough proof…did you send copies of the taxes too?
They want to see that to make sure that you don’t depend on govt for money.



joe

yes I did, 2005, 2006 and 2007 taxes, utility bills…



joe

yes I did, 2005, 2006 and 2007 taxes together,utility bills…



joe 2

I THINK I GOT CONFUSED WITH ANOTHER JOE, SORRY



Rose

the other one has Capital J , the other one is small j ha.ha.ha



Cruz

This is an interesting site. The conditions to remove a conditional residence was denied by a judge. Can I marry another person and refile? Pls help asap.



Rose

I already e-mailed the senator its too long filed feb 25 and still waiting….hope that will help



Sweetie

Hello everyone,

I wanted to share my experience filling my I751, I sent my application in july 2008.
Last month I received a letter stating that my case was transferred from vermont to California and got an approved two days ago. It took exactly 8 months.

For anyone who is still waiting keep the faith, it will be you’re turn soon!!!!!



SICK OF IMMIGRATION

I have been transferred to CALIFORNIA since Feb 25th 2009 after waiting 8 months as my case gathered dust in Vermont and i am still not approved.Yet i keep seeing people who applied after me getting approved.I am fed up of waiting.I filed in July 2008.The more people approved after me is making me bitter not happy because im still waiting.



Rose

you will be approved quick if they transferred you to CA and that’s better.



Nick

I filed form I-751 to remove conditional residence last month(March). My check for $545 has cleared and yesterday I received a receipt saying that it has been extended another year and within that year I may work and travel. It also states that I will receive a notice to appear at an ASC office. What does all of this mean. My wife and I are planning a trip abroad middle of May and my Greencard expires end of June.



bluebell

Cruz,

Do you think of marriage as lottery? If you married someone just to stay in US, the judge saw right through that.
How casual can you be in saying should I marry someone else and refile?
If you didn’t marry for the right reasons the first time, my advice is don’t try it again.
It’s not going to help you, it’s going to get you deported.



Rose

since mine has stamped extension can i travel out of mthe country? since I am still waiting filed Feb 2008 in VT. my stamp has 1 yr extention from infopass appt.



bluebell

Rose,

If I were you, I’d stay put until you get your permanent green card. You can delay your trip for a little while. I want to go and see my family too, I haven’t seen them in 11 years. but I am not going anywhere until I have everything in my hands. Why risk everything for a trip that can wait??



bluebell

Nick,

To appear at a ASC office means you need to go for biometrics, fingerprints that is. That’s all.



bluebell

Well, wish me God speed, I just sent my documents today to California. I can’t wait until it’s over!



Rose

whoever transferred to CA are lucky they process faster



LUCKY

HELLO EVERYONE

WELL ROSE, I SEE YOU STILL ARE NOT APPROVED AND YOU ALREADY CONTACT THE SENATOR OFFICE KEE POSTED.

JOE, WHAT IS YOUR SITUATION? HAVE YOU TRY AN INFOPASS?

CRUZ, BE CAREFULL …..



Nick

Thank you Bluebell. So what does conditional residence being extended for another year mean? Why would they extend it? And what if my appt. lands on one of the days that I will be out of the country?



Rose

everyone,

everyday is a pain whenever i check my case staus on line still pending..filed Feb 25 2008 frm Vermont, bear with me I keep on posting.

anyone so much behind?



PaulaDi

Hi!!! is my first time on this blog and i think a just read most of the post…
Here is my case…

Sent the FormI-751 on December 16 2008
Got a letter back requesting more evidence so i sent a very heavy package loaded with tons on things
The received the evidence and puth the filing date as 01/09/2009 not decmeber when i first sent them…

Called on 02/17/09 and told me i gotta wait
Called on 03/12/09 still appears pending and gotta wait more….
Called on 04/02/09 Still pending and they said that by 90 days i should get my biometrics appointment.

Today it been 90 days….. and something really weird…. i got a check from the IRS Immigration department returning the amount that we submitted for the I751..

Help anyone have experience on this “return check” matter?



Rose

did you check their current rate before you sent your payment, it might be a correct amount.



Rose

im sorry , it mighjt not be a correct amount that you sent..



linda

hello Rose,
I can understand your feeling. This kind of waiting make us crazy. I filed my one Feb.09. I did everything what i could, now I join the waiting group. I filed to CA center. I really donot understand why this takes such long time?If all those illeagle become leagle(over 10 millions),how long they will be wait at that time?We should not treat like this.



SICK OF IMMIGRATION

I am still waiting.9 months and counting,waiting after transfer to California waiting on any sign that CSC is working on my case and looking at my mailbox.I wish in a way now that my case had stayed in Vermont because in the end i would have waited 6 months longer on processing because of Transfer.Mind u they say do no enquire until 180 days after transfer. I have ben waiting 253 days since sending my petition to Vermont.



bluebell

Nick,

If I were you, I wouldn’t plan to leave the country anywhere until you have your green card in your hands.
After the biometrics, they will send you your new card in the mail. The 1 year extension just means that you can work and do the same things you did when you had your conditional card. If I were you, I wouldn’t leave the country while you have just the extension, wait until you get your permanent card. No trip abroad is worth risking your return to the US.



bluebell

Pauladi,

Did you send the right amount of money?
I have never heard the money being refunded, that is really strange.
May God help you and everyone else!



PaulaDi

Thank for all your comments….
I did sent the amount right and I even called the agency that issue the check and my form appears as paid… so the kind lady at the IRS department og homeland said that maybe… knowing that i filled my papers on december and they sent them back to me asking for more info and then filled them again on february they added the payment twice and refunded me one….
I have an infopass on friday… I will let you know what happens… maybe after putting so much money on immigration hands and lawyers… they did a mistake and i got a little present back!!



Yonnie

Hi Rose, I have my Biometrics taken on 27 Jan 2009 and I am still waiting for my renewed Green Card and yes I filed with Vermont Service Center as well.

Now I have to travel to France in May for a global meeting and tomorrow I have to make an appointment to have a stamp on my passport in order to return to US without any issue. I hope this will be sufficient since I have no hope of getting the green card before I leave the country.

Anyone has experience of any sort like me? I saw an advise not to leave the counrty but this is an important meeting and I need to attend :-(

Any advise ?



bluebell

Yonnie,

You must decide what’s more important to you: the meeting in France or waiting to get your green card and then travel so you can get back in US. It’s entirely up to you.

On another note, I have a friend who filed the I751 form 2 weeks ago at the Vermont center and she already got the appointment for the biometrics. It seems to me that Vermont moves pretty fast, I don’t know about California.



JS

Hello All,
I was searching for more Info on I-751. Unfortunately, I forgot to file to remove conditional residency. I am 10 weeks late. I received a notice for termination of my conditional residency.
I will be sending my paperwork in tomorrow. Any advice from previous experiences?



bluebell

JS,

Get yourself a good attorney, that’s all I can say and fast. Don’t try to fight it on your own, it’s not going to work. May God help you!



linda

Hi Lucky,
I have a question for you.After your got the approved notice,you get your 10 year’s green card yet? and your online statue is still pending or not?



LUCKY

LINDA

YES I GOT MY 10YRS GC, AFTER THAT I HAVE NOT CHECK ANY MORE IN THE USCIS WEB SITE.

JS, YOU NEED A GOOD INMIGRATION LAWYER AND STAR GADERING ALL THE DOCUMENTS YOU NEED ACT FAST!!!!

GOOD LUCK TO YOU ALL



ladkafasgaya

i m a us citizen and my spouse status expires on july 31. i know i have to fill form i-175 and proivded the evidence. what short or format letter they need from friends. do you guys have sample.
i wish they list of items needed and what if you have no kids, dont have enough money so obiviously no house or loan except for tiny credit card will that be a problem.. how long shoudl it take cheeez some body help this ladka



linda

Hi Lucky,
thanks a lot. I got my approved notice last week. I filed Feb.09,I got approved notec Apr.09.total 2 MONTHS. now I am waiting green card. Notice say I will get the card in 60 days.



JAS

Friend of mine Filed I-751 in April 2008, did the prints and sent forms to VT office. Just got word that it was given to an “officer” for review. Any have any advice on how much longer it will be or is this good news?? He has not been asked for additional forms. We have been so patient…….



Rose

JAS,- mine filed feb 08 but still pending,i went there for stamp already, cotacted senstor but still waiting this isfrom VT office some are lucky have theirs on 8th month but im on my 24th month.

Linda- you are fortunate to be in CA ofiice everybody from there get approved early.



Rose

sorry 14th month waiting i instead of 24th..



bluebell

In less than 2 weeks I got the receipt from the immigration, with the extension letter!
How long does it take between the notice and the fingerprints appointment?



PaulaDi

Ok so this is what happened… and this tells you that not even immigration officer know what they are doing…

Remember I was waiting for my finger prints to arrive? I went to immigrations and now this is the entire sadly story…

The officer tells me to give him my passport, and then he checks and doesn’t see the stamp with the residence, he checks back in the computer and asks me why I filed the form I751 if I never even got my temporary residence through all this 2 years…
I tell him I went with my husband on November 2008 to follow up with my case and the officer on that time tells us to file for the form eventough I never received my temporary residence… so that is what we did… WE WERE TOLD BY AN IMMIGRATION OFFICER to file that form 3 month prior to our 2nd anniversary and that doing that will advice immigration that we have been 2 years legally married

To make the long story short… my case is not even approved… I have been married 2 years and 3 months I have my SS# my work permit BUT no residence, I can’t leave the country so I m in a “crystal jail” and I am married to a US Citizen….

I’m still in disbelieve and immigration answer is: you have to wait and maybe we will interview again…. Ahhh and by the way the check I received was from the amount of the I751 that I applied for no reason and the officer said… you are lucky we refund the money ??!!!!???

OMG….



bluebell

Pauladi,

You better get yourself a good immigration lawyer to help you with this. It is worth every penny instead of trying to navigate this situation on your own.
May God help you!



bluebell

Pauladi,

Now that you have been married over 2 years, you should file again for the permanent residence, they will give you the permanent green card. Still, I would get a lawyer if I were you.
Do you have the proof that you filed two years ago the papers required/?



franc

I am going to submit my I-751 next 2 wks. My question is about changing the address. I totally forgot about changing the address. I only realized when they sent me a reminder regarding my I-751 application. I already submitted the form for Change of address 2 wks ago. I would like to know if this will affect my application since I did not change my address? We are happily married and living together. We already have pages of proof of marriage.

For the affidavit letters, I just want to make sure… Do I submit the original letter? or just a copy?

Please help.

Thank you! God Bless!
Franc



Xenia

Hello….

I filed on 02/2008, completed biometrics but my case was transferred to VT. It has been 14 months and still pending. After my conversation today with VT Service center I discovered that my case has been transferred to a local office. What does this mean? An Interview? Thank you in advance.



bluebell

Franc,

Just make sure when you submit the documents in the next two weeks to write your new address on the application.
If you lived at more than one address in the last two years, have past bills that show that, plus copies of the current and previous lease.
I moved from my address of where I was two years ago when I filed the first time and I didn’t notify anyone.
I just send copies of my past and present lease along with past and present bills when I submitted the I751 application.
The affidavits, I sent the originals but I kept copies for myself.
If you need more info, look at the lady who started this page, right at the top.
The rules are pretty simple! Hope this helps!

Xenia,

I have no idea what is going on with your papers. Where did you file your application?
Depending on where you live in the country, there are several centers where you submit the docs. I guess you know that already.
I hope you hear from them soon with positive results, God bless you!



JayJ

I filed my I-751 two weeks ago. But I did not include sworn affidevits. What I did send was All previous tax returns, Rent Contracts, Mortgage contracts, Joint account paper work.
Anyone think this is sufficient or is it likely that I will get a letter of rejection?



Jay

I am about to send my I-751. My wife and I are from South America. She is american citizen and is the petitioner. We can’t send any affidavids because our relatives don’t live in USA and we have just made some research and we don’t have people who have known us enough to sworn a document. But, as long as I have learnt from instructions to fill out this Form, affidavids are not mandatory. Also, my wife has owned our current residence since before our marriage, so we have not been concerned about making changes on the contract and bills to include both our names. We have been working a lot and don’t have time for that. We have filed Tax Returns together, Health plans, joint check and savings accounts. We are not addicted to taking pictures (actually we hate it), but we have some which have been taken with friends and children in events like Christmas, birthdays, thanksgiving, etc. I hope this could be enough. That’s what we brought to our interview and our interviewer had been satisfied.



Jay

By the way, I forgot to mention about address change. We have change our address and I sent a AR-11 Form on time. I filed out a online form and printed a copy of receipt. I have just received a notice from USCIS regarding I-751 and it was sent to my old address! I called their information center to confirm weather the address change has been effective or not and all of the information I could have is that they couldn’t give me any information despite the fact that I have a receip number available. So, just to make sure I have filed out a new AR-11 Form.



Franc

Bluebell – thanks for the advice. hoping and praying hard we get a response right away.



strawberry

i had my schedule interview on may20 but my problem is my citizen spouse will not go with me in my interview and he wants me to divorce.can i go alone with my interview? any advise thank you.



bluebell

Strawberry,

I feel sorry for you, in this case talk to a lawyer, I don’t know what else to tell you.
Your spouse needs to wake up, marriage is for life not a game.



Franc

bluebell,

My 2 yr anniversary date is Aug 10, 2007. It says on the application that I should send 90 days before it expires which is this coming Aug 10, 2009. When you count 90 days from Aug 10 it falls on May 12 because May and July has a 31st that gives extra 2 days. Can I send it my application on May 10th? or I have to send it on May 12th?

Franc



Jay D

Strawberry, my advice is that you take a lawyer, but before that you should try this site http://www.justanswer.com. You can have a good advice from experienced professionals almost for free and this could be a good start to solve your problem.



bluebell

Franc,

Send it May 13th, you don’t want to send it one day earlier, they will send it back to you. I sent mine 83 days before my 2 year anniversary and I got the extension letter 13 days after I sent it.
I mailed my docs express mail, I was able to print out from the usps.com the time when it was delivered. I paid $30.00, but it was worth every penny.
Hope that helps.



caplan

Hello everyone,

I’m filing without my husband(us citizen) due to divorce (abuse, adultery, etc).
Is there anyone know about similar case?
I know I have to attach files such as Police report, protective order and etc.. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks.



bluebell

Caplan,

Get yourself a good attorney in this case, I don’t know what to tell you.



Rose

HELLO,

Im still here and waiting for my overdue approval , filed i-751-Feb 2008 ,for some new here, Lucky,timbo,sami they are all done but m still here waiting any one longer than mine?



joe

I filed mine in Feb 2008(texas and then transfered to Vermon )…still wating



Rose

joe,

keep me posted, we are both Feb 2008 filer, it is bothering me lot.



Rawan

Bluebell, l need to ask you a question , I received the notice in less than 2 weeks indicating that my green card was extended for one year and that I will receive an ASC appointment for fingerprinting, when should I expect the appointment letter and date? I received the notice on the 28th of April. Thanks



franc

Anyone sent their packages with signature confirmation? Did they sign it eventhough it was sent to a P.O box?

Thanks!



Rawan

Does anyone know when should i receive the appointment for biometric services? Does it take too long after the receipt notice?



LUCKY

Rose and Joe

you both made already a infopass? So someone can tell you something about your case? Or did you already contact your senator?

i am so sorry that you are still waiting.. Please keep posted i will be very happy when your case is done.

Good luck to all and be patient it takes couple months to get your 10 yrs gc.



bluebell

Franc,

I sent my docs express mail and I waived the requirement for signature and someone still signed for it!
All I wanted was to be able to track it and see that it was delivered!

Rawan,

I received the notice 13 days after they received my documents.
I have a friend who went through this and she said that for her it took two months between receiving the notice/receipt and receiving the biometrics appointment.
So I guess both of us have to wait for another month or so.



joe

LUCKY,
Yes I already made stamp my passport at infopass.
In March 17 I called ISCIS and they sent to Vermont a note asking for my case, 1 week after that they sent my a letter saying that my case date is Feb 29, 2008, and they were processing cases of Jan 27, 2008 ( which is not what the USCIS.GOV posted in “processing times”), any way, the letter also says that if in 60 days I don’t recieved anything, call them back: and that’s what I did 2 days ego. basically they did the same thing that last time, they sent a note to Vermont asking for my case, they gave my a confirmation #, and they told me that if they don’t send me anything in 45 days to call them again.



LUCKY

Joe,

I don´t know what is wrong with USCIS cases on jan????? that is a lie… but anyway have you try your senator?

Really i wish you the best on your case hope your approval letter arrives soon.

Please keep posted and good luck.



Rawan

Bluebell thanks for the reply, I received my biometric appointment notice yesterday :)



MG

Hey Guys,

My 2 year GC will expire on May 21,2009..
I sent my I-751 on May 5,2009. only had 16 days left before my GC expire.
May 6,2009- Received in Laguna Niguel CA
May 14, – Cashed the check
May 16..(today) i got the notice…1 year extension..

Do i still have to make an appointment to get my passport stamp?..



joe

MG,
NO, you dont have to, since you already have the 1 year extension letter



Franc

Just want to follow about my case… after a week I submitted my application, I already received my extention letter.

Will keep you guys posted about things going on here.. Sent mine in California.

God Bless!



bluebell

Rawan,
I got my biometrics appointment as well for the 30th of May!
It seems that it’s moving pretty fast!



wicket

Hello,

I submitted my documents last May 4, 09. Received my one year extension yesterday. How long will it take for the biometrics schedule? I filed in Vermont. Anybody here who filed in vermont? how was the situation there?
Thank you.



wicket

bluebell,

where did you submit your papers? in vermont? does anybody here didn’t submit there tax returns? and no lease or mortgage paper?



MG

Joe,
Thanks for the reply!!!
I have another question,
how long will it take for the biometrics schedule?…i sent my application in CA., got my 1 year extension 4 days ago…

Wicket,
I didnt submit tax returns, lease or mortgage papers, or any kind of insurance…Because we don’t have any that are both in our names…Everything is on my husband’s name…except our checking account, thats all we got and i also submitted 2 affidavit from his relatives that testify that were still living 2gether and 2 pictures…i didnt submit enough or lots of evidence to prove that we’re still married….that’s why i’m kinda worried that they will not approve my petition….



wicket

MG,

i dont either have lots of evidence. almost everything was in his name. i submitted photos and affidavit of 5 persons we know, bank accounts too. where did you submit? vermont or california? i submitted at vermont.



MG

WICKET,

I submitted my application in CA…i’m still waiting for the biometric schedule/appoinment.



wicket

MG,

Let’s all pray for the results of our applications. I am waiting for my biometrics too. I read here that those who submitted at California got their cards approved faster.

Keep me posted and I will let you know too bout my status.



bluebell

Wicket,

I submitted my papers in California…I mailed them express mail on April the 7th and I received the extension letter on April the 20th. I received the biometrics appointment a month later, I have to go on May the 30th.
I submitted a lot of documents, see the list of the lady who started this thread. The more documents you have , the better! If you don’t send enough, they will ask for more stuff and that will set you at the back of the line.
Overall, I think I sent about 15-20 different kinds of documents!

In Vermont, I have a friend who submitted her docs in March, got her extension letter 2 weeks later and two months later she went for biometrics.
That’s all I know, it seems that they are moving ok there.



joe

Rose,

any news for you?…let me know please.

thanks



John

Hello All,

Now I am also in the same boat. I did lot of research before filing. This site is one of the best for filing I 751 (“Petetion to Remove Conditions”). I thank you all for your postings and the helpful information you provided in this site.

Here are my petetition dates:

07/17/2007 – Entered USA with CR1 Visa Status
04/18/2009 – Eligible for applying I 751
04/28/2009 – Sent I 751 Packet (USPS Priority Certified Mail)
04/30/2009 – Packet Delivered at Saint Albans, VT
05/08/2009 – Check was cleared in my Bank Account
05/11/2009 – Received I-797C Notice of Action
05/28/2009 – Received ASC Appointment for Biometrics
06/17/2009 – Finger Prints (D. V.)



Lana

Joe
I feel sorry for you. I know what a lot of I-751 from December 2008 getting approved and I have seen some approvals from January 2009.Call them again. Something is wrong



Rose

Joe,

Its been 60 days now , I will call my lawyer to call them ..Its still pending.

submit i-751 2/25/08
Vermont Service center



Rawan

Hi all, I am done with the biometric capturing, do i have to stamp my passport since I need to travel, or will the extension letter be ok? Can I show it to them when I return and that’s it?



wicket

hi guys,

i received my letter for biometrics last week.

i submitted my i-751 last may 4.
got my extension letter after 2 weeks.
then, my biometrics is on june 12.
hopefully after this it will be okay.

thanks, bluebell.



bluebell

Wicket,

I’m glad that you’re moving forward too! I had my biometrics Saturday..now I have to wait for the card!

Does anyone know how long does it take to get the green card after the fingerprints were completed??
Thanks,



Rose

Wicket,

the greencard release depends which center you filed, the CA is the fastest takes 3-5 months only but VT takes 10-18 months.



bluebell

Thanks Rose! What’s your situation? It seems that you have been waiting for a long time!



Rose

bluebell,

yes , its been long time i have stamp done til next year its so frustrating were everybody has gotten already theirs….was Feb 25, 2008 VT center but still waiting.



bluebell

Rose,

Something is not right if you’ve been waiting that long. Do you have an attorney to start finding what’s going on?



bluebell

Does anyone know if they do another background check after the fingerprints for I-751 are completed??



Lana

Rose
I heard what in march VSC send all old aplications to CSC maybe yours got lost on the way that is how my sisters got lost



wicket

hello,

for those who are already done with their biometrics, do you and your spouse go together? or it could only be the applicant? mine will be on next friday, not sure if i need to be with my husband too when i go there. it was not stated though in the letter but i want to be sure so they will not have an issue why the spouse is not there.

thanks.



Rose

Lana,
How did she know(your sister) that hers was lost on the way to CSC did she call?

bluebell,
I have my lawyer working on it now, I was told up to May 30 if nothing happens then she will either call or write them a letter.,because we dont receive anything from them.

Any one here still waiting more than a year?



bluebell

Wicket,

If your hubby wants to go with you that’s fine but it’s not mandatory, its’ you they need to see and fingerprint.
My hubby went with me, but it was because he wanted to go, not because he had to go. So in a nutshell, if your hubby can’t go with you or he doesn’t want to, you’re fine on your own. Just make sure you don’t take a cell phone or a camera with you inside!



bluebell

Rose,

Something is definitely very wrong if you have not heard anything for that long. Have your attorney call them, write them, contact your senator, your governor, make a lot of noise so you can find out what the heck happened.
I hope you have copies of everything you sent including proof that they received your papers last year.
That way you can show that you did your part and they need to get their act together and find out where your papers are and what they did with them.
The longer you wait, the more trouble, so my advice is don’t wait any longer.



Lana

Rose
Yes she called a lot of times and they couldn’t tell her enything for a long time and then they told her what VSC send the papers to CSC but they never resived it. So You just need to call them till they finally tell u something.Good luck!!!!



Sethu

I received notice about approval of i751. We had submitted the i751 end Jan 2009. Finger prints were completed in Feb 2009. We were not called for an interview, and neither were we asked to submit any additional evidence than what we submitted with the application.

It took 4 1/2 months for the i751 to be approved (even though the wait time shown on the USCIS site showed between 12 to 14 months from time to time).

Some additional information about me and my wife:

There is a substantial age difference between us – she is more than 15 yrs older than I am, and this is her second marriage. At present we live in two opposite ends of the US. She is bedridden due to a medical condition.

We were very clear from the get go that we would be very honest and straightforward in our application and any correspondence with the USCIS. We put together our application with bonafide supporting documents that our attorney’s office asked for. We put a cover letter honestly telling the USCIS about our lives together. We also mentioned that we were residing in two different states and specified the reason why.

Here are the tips I can share to those applying for i751 (or any other forms) to the USCIS:

1. It is best to be honest. We have found the USCIS folks to be very understanding in all our dealings with them.

2. If there is a situation that is peculiar (or may sound strange, even though it may not be suspicious), please put together a well written cover letter clearly explaining your situation. Be polite and professional without being too evasive or defensive about your situation.

3. Get a good attorney. This should be the first point actually. Even if it costs you more to hire a good attorney, it is worth paying more to avoid aggravation that comes with having a sloppy attorney. I know of friends that saved a few hundred dollars, or even a thousand dollars, and are regretting hiring ‘reasonably priced’ attorneys. On the other hand I also know of friends that filled their forms by themselves without using an attorney, and have received i751 approvals. I like to play safe, especially for something as important as i751 even though we have a bonafide marriage.

4. A few strong convincing documents in support is better than a lot of mundane, repetitive documents. (No point putting monthly bank statement from the same bank/ account for 36 months. Instead one or two recent bank statements, and a letter from the bank giving your balance, your names, and since when you have the account would suffice – as it did for us. By putting repetitive evidence, you would put a mountain of evidence that the officer would have to burrow through tediously separating duplicate documents looking for stuff that really counts. It is best not to waste their time. Besides, the officer may get the impression that the applicant is padding the case file with fluff – this our attorney told us is what USCIS officers hate the most. I have read comments in another forum where people say they sent ’15 pounds of evidence, how much more does USCIS need?’. 15 sheets of compelling evidence is better than 15 pounds of weak evidence)

5. Since the USCIS is backlogged, and would like to clear strong files quickly to reduce overall wait time. Hence, they like to approve cases that look genuine rightaway. Your best bet to get an early approval is to put a superstrong and honest application with compelling evidence, and a well written cover letter. This is where paying for a very good attorney comes handy. Otherwise, filling i751 is not rocket science as we all know. A good attorney can help cut through the clutter of weak or repetitive evidence and only forward strong evidence, and portray your marriage convincingly in the cover letter.

6. Just our personal opinion. The case officers of USCIS are pretty smart and trained at sniffing out genuine cases from suspicious applications. Being polite, friendly and well prepared in any interaction or interview with them, would leave a positive impression about you in their mind.

Thought we would share this with you, as this input could be of help to you. If you have any question please ask.

Thank you.



Sethu

To Wicket,

No, the spouse is not required at the Biometrics. If anything, the USCIS biometric letter informs you that the seating arrangements can be tight and as such only essential folks should be there (or something on those lines).

You are fine if you go alone.



Rose

Sethu,

May I know where Service center you sent your I-751?



Sethu

Rose, our service center was VERMONT.

Yes they approved our i751 in 4 1/2 months even though the listed time for VERMONT is 12 to 14 months.



wicket

Sethu,

Thanks! My husband will be going with me on friday for the biometrics.

That’s is a good news to know that you apply on vermont and was approved for just 4 1/2 months. I thought it was slower in vermont than in california.

I sent lots of papers in Vermont but not actually sure if they are relevant for my petition.

What are the documents that you sent in Vermont?

God bless you.



Rose

Sethu,

Good for you that is unsusual the earliest ive heared from VT.
My lawyer already contacted them by phone that they will be sending me a letter for interview, so Im just waiting now for that letter.

Any oone here was called for an interview before approval of i-751?

thanks.



MG

Its been a month now since i got my 1 year extension,, but until now i haven’t receive mail for the biometrics schedule…iI sent my papers in CA.
How long it usually take to get the biometric schedule after receiving the 1 year extension?…



Sethu

Thank you, Wicket.

The documents we sent included copies of these (there were some more that I dont remember of the top of my head):

My GC (front and reverse)

Her Citizenship certificate

Our Marriage certificate

My life insurance policy taken 4 years agon with her as one of the beneficiaries. Got a statement from the Life Insurance company indicating for how long we have had this policy, and that we have been paying the premium regularly ever month.

House purchase agreement (She and I are co-owners)

Tax / County documents related to the House we own.

Vehicle ownership/loan documents pertaining to vehicle that we jointly own.
Vehicle insurance documents showing both of our names.

House insurance statements (one monthly/one annual) owned jointly by us.

Statement from Bank pertaining to accounts that we jointly hold. 2 recent monthly statements, and an account certificate from the bank indicating length of account ownership and balance history.

Photographs of the two of us with friends and family.

Copy of wills executed by either of us, each nominating the other as the KIN and bequeathing assets to the other.
Her SSN card with my last name as her last name.

Her Credit cards with her full name that includes my last name
Her ID card/License with my last name as part of her name.

My Driver license.

Lease document of a house we rented – clearly indicating both of us as joint lessee.

Mortgage monthly statement jointly adressed to us.

Power/Electricity bills indicating both our names.

Water/Utility bills with both our names.

Cellphone bills from the provider addressed to both of us.

Tax returns of the last 2 years that we jointly filed.

Tax transcript for the last 2 years, that we requested and got from IRS (as a piece of evidence, TAX transcript is stronger than copy of the TAX return)

Property related homestead documents from the last 3 years with her name that shows that her names includes my last name. (The homestead document is peculiar to some counties – ours had it.)

Several other documents/monthly statements from various agencies that is jointly addressed to the two of us.

We did NOT send any affidavits from anyone (People write about including affidavits from friends/family attesting to the fact that you and your spouse have been living together and that your marriage is bonafide etc. My understanding is that USCIS considers affidavits the WEAKEST form of evidence.)

We also included a cover letter summarizing the evidence enclosed (so at one glance the case officer gets to know the strength and bonafides of the marriage – cohabitation/financial comingling of assets/joint ownership of assets (and debts).

We tried to limit only one or two pieces of the same evidence and avoid repetition (For example, mortgage statements from the latest month, and one from say 6 months ago. If you have an annual statement that is pretty strong as it indicates you both had this financial commitment jointly for 1 full year. No point putting copies of 24 monthly statement of the same document.)

Hope this helps.



Sethu

Rose, thank you for the kind words.

Its nice to know that your attorney got confirmation from USCIS about your case, and that they are sending an interview invite.

As for your question about ‘Has anyone got interview call before approval of i751?’, if anyone gets an interview call it has to be BEFORE approval of i751. If they decide (on the basis of the evidence submitted) that no interview is needed, then they dont ask for an interview, they just approve the i751.

Getting an interview call is not ‘bad news’. It happens to thousands of applicants.

The good news is the interview call means you are no longer uncertain about where your case is. It also means that USCIS thinks there is merit in your application as to spend their time on an interview with you (There are several i751 cases that get an RFE – request for more eveidence, or some other cases that are rejected without an interview).

What it says to me is the USCIS does not need more evidence (else they would have sent an RFE to you). An interview gives the officer to meet your hubby and you together and go over the usual questions with you. Just use this time putting together all documents/photos that you can indicating your life together – especially from the last year after you sent the i751. Since your wait has been a year long, if you have any documents to show joint ownership/ joint finances/ joint official documents from this latest 1 year period that would be compelling to the interview officer. Also remember to put together a list of documents on top of the folder – so the officer would know at one glance all the compelling evidence you have. (Of course you need to show this only if the officer discusses the evidence you had sent. If all the officer does is exchange pleasantries before approving your i751 you may not need to show the additional evidence you carry to the interview, but keeping the additional evidence handy would be helpful).

Good luck, and please share the developments here, so it helps others that are in the same boat.



Jill

my conditional greencards expires in december i recently traveled oversea 6 months pregnant and feel ill and have been advised not to travel by air until after the baby is born or risk miscarriage, my husband will fill out and send the I-751 and send it off with all the required documents and payment. could i call the uscis and request an extention on my green card



bluebell

Jill,

You don’t have to call UCSIS to request an extension. After you or your husband send the petition to remove the conditions, USCIS will send you a receipt and an extension letter for a year.
Just make sure you send your documents 90 days prior to your current green card expiration date. Do not send it sooner, they will send your documents back.
Just read the first post of the lady who started this blog, she has a ton of helpful information. Check out USCIS website as well.



bluebell

Jill,

Are you overseas right now? Will you be overseas when your green card expires?
If that’s the case, you better have your hubby get an attorney, you do not want to be locked out of the country



bluebell

Hello all,

I have received a letter that my petition was approved and that I will be receiving my green card within 60 days. That was pretty fast.
Yipee!



Rosalina

JILL ,
My case is same as urs , i am pregnant and i need to give birth out of USA becoz my husband work overseas and no body can take care of me in USA . Anyway they might call me for biometrics or interview anytime i might not be in the country!
So does the uscis really understand such situatiotns can they give us extension or more time ?



bluebell

Jill and Rosalina,

You have to realize that the law DOES NOT make special concessions for anyone.
If you do not show up for biometrics, the USCIS will start the deportation procedures once they terminate your conditional status. Is that what you guys want?
How about having someone from your family overseas come and help you with the baby?

You guys better talk to a seasoned immigration attorney regarding your plans, instead of relying on hearsay from other people.
It all depends what’s important to each of you in the end.



Rose

blubell,

congrats. im still for interview



bluebell

Thanks Rose…I’m praying that your situation will solve very soon! I know exactly how you feel! :-)



wicket

Congratulations, bluebell!!

How long does it take you to be approved?

Is there anybody here that was approved even they didn’t send their tax return and no mortgage or lease?

thank you.



bluebell

Thanks Wicket!
Well, to answer your question, this was my timeline:
April 8-I sent my docs express mail
April 21-I received the receipt with the extension letter;
May 14-I got the biometrics appointment
May 30-I went to my biometrics appointment
June 7-I received the letter telling me that my petition was approved and within 60 days I will receive my permanent green card.
I sent my docs to California center!

Hope this answers your question, in my opinion they moved pretty fast.

For the second part of your question, copies of taxes are a must, they want to see that you can support yourself and don’t depend on govt help. As far as lease or mortgage, I don’t know what to tell you, but I sent copies of our previous lease and our current one.
I sent everything I had with both our names on the papers, which is pretty much every bill, bank statements, credit cards, car and health insurance, you name it and I sent it.
I have made a 3 whole binder and put everything in it in order, I wrote a list on top listing all the docs I sent, so that way they were able to know exactly where everything was.
The more organized your stuff is, the better chance you have to get fast service. It makes it easier for whoever reviews your case to see what they need to see and get you the green light, at least that’s what I think.
Keep me posted.



MG

Congrats!!Bluebell..,

I sent my application last month (May 6,2009) , then i got the receipt with 1 year extension after 10 days( May 16,2009)…it’s been a month now (JUne 17,’09)..i’m still waiting for the biometric schedule,,, I sent mine in CA….is this normal?..or there’s something wrong with my papers?.



bluebell

MG,

You’re right on track….in a few days you’ll probably get your biometrics appointment!
If they sent you an extension letter, I don’t think there is anything wrong with your papers, just wait a few more days and you’ll get biometrics appointment!



sue

Hey guys
Me and my husband did not have any bills together( everything is on his name), because i do not work.Also the house we live in was bought by him before we even got married, so i am not on it. I am worried the this might be a problem. I have a lot of picture together, plane tickets from trips we have been on, affidavits and doc.from church wedding we had last year. Any ideas what else i can use



bluebell

Sue,

Have your husband add your name to the phone bill, electric bill, bank accounts even if you don’t work.
Also, even if you don’t work, you guys should have filed the taxes together, jointly.
Also, if he has life insurance and if you’re the beneficiary, that is great proof. Also, health insurance with your both names on it is good.
If you drive, have your name added on the car insurance as well.
These are little things that can be done even if you don’t work so to speak.
Hope that helps!



sue

Thanks!
Well, we did filed taxes together so i have that, i am also on his bank account and credit cards. We have separate health insurance because we were told it will be easier to do so( but its the same company). I was not added to a car insurance because i do not have driving licence. I am so frustrated!Is it good idea to contact an attorney to ask for advice?We are a happy and loving marriage, but its sad that i might be in trouble because i do not have enough documents!!!!



Dorie

I just received my approval letter after I submitted my application on 11/08; and they said I should receive the I-797D the GC within 60 days. Does it really take 60 days to receive the GC? Can anyone help?



Rose

dorie,

it will be aerlier than 60 days



Dorie

Thank you Rose.



jaime

I live in NY and filed I130 for alien relative in 2001 at VSC. Last week I got a notice that the case was transferred to Lincoln, Nebraska. Why is this? What should I expect?



bluebell

Jaime,

I think it means that finally they are going to start working on your case hopefully!



sue

When you send tax returns or bank statements to remove the conditions, does it hove to be everything or only page with your name on it?



Lana

Dorie
Can you post your timeline please. Did you file in VSC?



Dorie

Lana

I mailed to my application to the VCS on 11/2008, 90 days prior to the 2 years anniversary. I received the appointment for the biometrics the second week of May; and the approval letter on the second week of June.



Dorie

Sue

I only included to my application a copy of the most recent bank statement ;in my case it was the October statement with both of our names.



bluebell

Sue,

I sent a copy of the tax forms, all the pages, but I whited out our social security numbers. The bank statement, I whited out the account number, the balance, and I sent it that way.



Lana

Dorie
Thank you for your timeline I was warried, because I see a lot of people from 02/2009 get approved and I am 12/2008



sue

ThankS guys!



Dorie

After a long journey I finally received the new card.
To everyone filling to remove the condition on the permanent residence don’t get discourage.



Rose

DORIE,

congrats…



Dorie

Thank you Rose



Sethu

Hi All,

I received my card in the mail today – took fewer than 20 days.

So even though the i751 approval letter informed that the card would arrive within 60 days, it arrived earlier.

Thought I would share the turn around time it took the USCIS in issuing my card, if anyone was curious to know that.

Please keep in mind that the 20 days reponse time may not be representative, so your card could arrive in fewer days or more. (In other words, please do not worry if 20 days go by, and your card does not arrive.)

Good luck to all.



bluebell

Sethu,

Congratulations on your card! That means my should come in the mail any day now! Yipeeeeee!



Sethu

Thank you, Bluebell.

Yes, you should be getting your card pretty soon. You could be holding your green card next week.



Rosalina

hi all
my timeline :
Received by VSC MAY 20 2009
Extention letter JUNE 6, 2009
Biometric JULY 13, 2009

I got new evidences for my marriage as i got pregnant after i filled my application> i think getting pregnant is a strong evidence as it shows it is a real marriage. Well i got a report from the doctor about my pregnancy. how can i send this report to uscis along with other proofs i got also recently !
does they accept it by now or no need for more as they already gave me appointment for biometrics. My point is that i want to avoid being asked for an interview i might be out of counrty by that time. Please any advice ?



Dorie

Rosalina

I think if your package had enough evidence such as
- bank statement with both name
- Tax return (filled jointly)
- Contract of any lease or mortgage agreement
- Utilities bills under both of your names
- Credit card bills under both of you name
… basically anything showing both of your name you shouldn’t need to send any other evidence.
your case is moving pretty fast don’t mess it up unless USCIS ask for any other paperwork.



Lana

Rosalina
I don’t think you should send any evidence, unless they ask for it.But if you decide to send it, you should send a copy of your NOA and put your case number on every page, so they will not loose it. Good luck



Charles

1-751 Approved in less than 1.5 Months.

I can’t believe it. My question is, is the processing getting faster or just my application? My conditional GC expired in May 09. My application was received on April 28th, had biometric on May 20th, and got approved on June 8th. I’m now waiting for my new card.

I wish everybody good luck and faster processing times.



Kerry

Wow, I just finished reading all these comments-its good to know I am not alone!
I mailed my app. in Jan. 09′, biometrics in Feb., and just heard that I didn’t submit enough evidence! And have until Aug. 7 to comply. We submitted several medical claim forms, , joint bank account statements, auto insurance cards and life insurance cards: everything with both our names. We will be sending tax returns, utility bills (if we can get my name put on them in time), and would like to include the affidavits to be on the safe side. Does anyone know if they need to be sworn? Or notarized?
Also, I read the first several letters, then the last several letters (I skipped the middle thousand or so) is it my imagination or did the price go up? I paid $545.00 including biometrics! I’m glad I didn’t also pay a lawyer, but I really wonder at times if it wouldn’t have been easier.



John

Charles,

Where did you submit your application? Vermont or California?

You said that your application was approved on June 8th.
Did you get a letter from Service Center? If yes – when you got the letter?

Thanks for info in advance,
John



Charles

John,

I filed with California, I received the approval letter from the Chicago Office on June 10th with a decision date of June 8th.

While waiting for the new card to arrive, I’ve had my passport stamped with a temporary I-551.

Charles



Chip

I’m hoping someone can answer this question for me please…..Do I need to submit 2×2 photos of my wife and our children for the I-751? I’m a bit confused with the instructions. I hope to hear from someone soon. Thanks for the help.



Dorie

Chip

The 2 (2*2) photos or (passport photos) should be yours. And with the paperwork you should enclose family pictures (wife and children if any)

Hope this will help you



John

Charles,

Congratulations!!!
Thanks for answering questions. I applied in VSC on Apr 28 09. Bio was done on June 17th.

In waiting period…

John



Charles

John,

Hopefully, it won’t be long before hearing from them. Did you submit all the required documentation?

Charles



Chip

So I don’t need to take my wife and children to have their 2×2 photos taken then? I am gathering the family pics now so I can submit those. But I need a definitive answer to the 2×2 photos…..do I or do I not need those photos to be taken. Thanks.



Sethu

Hi Chip,

To reiterate Dorie’s reply to your query, you do NOT need to submit 2X2 pics of your wife or kids or other family members along with the I 751 application.

You MUST submit 2X2 pic of yourself. Without the 2X2 pics of yourself, the I751 application is considered incomplete.

You MAY submit family pictures as additional evidence of your cohabitation. This is NOT a requirement. However, such family pictures (that show you and your spouse together) are extremely strong supporting evidence that strengthen your application.

Hopefully, this answer is definitive enough.



chonz

Hi everybody,

So happy that most of you are approved now and just waiting for your green card. i am still waiting on mine. I submitted my forms last May 09. Had my biometrics last June 09 and until now I haven’t heard anything from them. I submitted my forms to Vermont.



Kerry

Chonz,
I don’t know if you read my letter above, but I filed in Vermont too, and did my biometrics in Feb. 09, and submitted lts of evidence, and just received this week a letter asking for more evidence. So it has taken them nearly 6 months to process it this far. I was told I needed more evidence. ANd if they didn’t receive it by Aug. 7th, my application would be terminated and I would be subject to removal. I think there must be a big differnce between Cal. & Vermont.



Lana

Khonz
I submitted mine to Vermont in December 2008 got biometrics done in February 2009 and didn’t heard anything since then.California a lot faster whan Vermont so I am sure what you will not hear from them for another couple month



chonz

Kerry,

Did they itemize the things or documents that they need? So, they gave you a month to submit the documents. I think there was a guy here who submitted in Vermont and was able to have his green card for 45 days. Hope you’ll be able submit the documents on time.

Lana,

They haven’t send you anything yet like more requirements? Maybe they have many applicants in Vermont than in California. Keep me posted on your status and I will do the same too.

Thank you. God bless everybody.



Lana

Khonz
I haven’t heard nothing sice my biometrics which I had on 02/2009 I called them a month ago and they told me what processing time is 6 month and if I won’t get it in the begining of July call them back so I am going to call them again next week



Rixky

Hey everyone. I filled my I-751 on April 16, after 1 month i received the extension letter for 1 year. My papers are at the California Service Center. In the letter says that i MUST wait for biometric appointment. Its gonna be 2 months now and still nothing from them. Should i call them or just wait more time. I mean, i know that the processing date is 6 months..but still impatience is not fun.



Lana

Rixky

You wating a long time for biometrics but I don’t think they will tell you something on the phone because they use your aplication number to find your case which is on your biometrics notice Anyway I don’t think you should worry sometimes it takes time Well I would wait another month and then try to call



Ricky

I hope that i will get it soon Lana. My case was so weird from the beginning. For the first green card i never got my fingerprints appointment. They send me interview letter first. I never received my EAD from them even though i submitted the I-765 form and money order of 180$. O my God. So me and my wife, we went there for an interview and the immigration officer asked me “why you didn’t do your fingerprints” and i am like you never send me the letter. So she issued me a fingerprints letter that same day. I did not have one thing joint at the time of interview because i never received my EAD and i didn’t have SSN. We went on interview empty hands (we just had family album). The interview lasted 5 minutes. We went home. After 3 hrs the immigration officer calls me on my cell telling me that she did a mistake in the letter she gave me earlier on the interview, and i wanted o die..After one week i got another appointment letter..did that, after 4 months 2nd interview letter came. Still didn’t received my EAD, so no SSN, no joint papers and we have to go on a second interview. So, we went again..and the officer is like “i don’t know why are you here again if you don’t have anything”. I told him we would have everything if you guys have send me the employment authorization document so that i could go and get a social security number. He looked at me and hes like “you are right” but i cannot make any decision right now because you guys have (read this) zero papers..and it was true, we didn’t have anything whatsoever. So he said have a good day and we will notify you by mail whats gonna be the next step. After 3 weeks i got an e-mail from immigration “welcoming a new resident”, after 3 weeks i got my 2yrs GREEN CARD. I couldn’t believe it. We were really lucky. I went with my green card to get SSN, (usually you go with EAD to get it)..and thats really rare. 1 in 10000 probably. So yeah..and now i did send my I-751 form to remove conditions. I submitted the following: I-751 form, 545$ money order, joint tax return for the most recent year, a joint account letter from T-mobile with our names on it and the joint bank account with two years of existence. I hope thats gonna be enough. Now i am waiting for my biometrics appointment letter and lets just hope that this time the letter will actually come in mail. lol..i think after all this is done i am gonna end up on sessions with the shrink and traumatologist. (I hope not)..;-)



Dorie

Rixky

do not worry about the biometrics app..
I myself submitted the application on 11/08, 90 days prior to the expiration of the GC; on April 09 not having received my biometrics app. I made and appointment with my local office and went to find out what was going on. The officer sent me to get them done that same day (April 16th, 2009), which I did.
On may 14th I received the app. for the biometrics (7 months after I submitted the application), with the date of May 21st. Than June 9th I received the approval letter (19 days after the biometrics) and on June 23rd I got the 10-year Green Card.
Don’t worry you will receive the biometrics appointment notice.



OKKA

Hi All,

I have been following this forum for a while but this will be my first time posting. I have just successfully completed the I-751 process and received my card. My timeline is as follows:

2/18/09 – submitted my application to VSC
2/26/09 – received the notice and extension letter
3/9/09 – received biometrics appt notice
3/23/09 – completed biometrics
7/2/09 – received my approval notice
7/9/09 – received my 10 year GC



Ricky

Thanks Dorie, your case sounds great. And i really hope i will get it soon. Do you think that i should go to my local office and try to get biometrics done like you or should i just wait. So what you are saying is that you went to the local office and they gave you biometrics letter at the office that same day you went, is that correct???? Wow..



Ricky

I guess after all i wont be receiving my 10 year green card. Today i got NOTICE IN REMOVAL PROCEEDINGS IMMIGRATION COURT. My understanding is that this is a deportation for me. I am so worried now and don’t know what to do. I need to get a lawyer. Did anyone go trough this and..i don’t know anymore, i feel so lost…



Rose

Hi All!

I finally got my approval after all the agonies, I was called for interview today and approved (they just wanna see me) It took me 17 mos in waiting.

Filed i-751 in VSC Feb 2008
Approved with Interview 7/13/09
GC to be received on mail.

17 months in waiting, now I can plan my future , but this done with a lot of prayers and sleepless nights prior to interview.

Ricky,

that’s so sad but dont quit , hire a good lawyer.

Rose



Lana

Rose

Congratulations!!! I am happy for you.



chonz

Rose,

Congratulations to you!!!
That’s a long wait but it’s worth waiting.

Ricky,

I will be praying for you. Everything will be okay. Pray too.



Lana

Ricky

First you need a lower And I would call USCIS to find out why they denied your aplication. Did you file it jointly with your wife? It is not the end yet so get a good lower and good luck.



Ricky

I did file joint of course. I was reading on the net, they usually call if you commit a crime or overstay your visa. I did overstay my visa for two years, and then started with my process. I just don understand why would they give me 2 yr green card, extension letter and then put me in removal proceedings. Something is not right. I did not expect this, but i will not give up, for sure. I love this country and i have been living here for 5 years, working legally since 2007, and now they want to take all that from me. It is not fair, its not…



Lana

Ricky

If it was the case with your visa they would never gave you a 2 year GC I think it is because your biometrics apointment. If I remember right you never got an apointment for it. I think they might send it and it got lost in mail so you missed an apointment and they denied your application.Call them they would be able to find your file by A number and tell you the reason you got denied



Kerry

Just to let you know what I have done and the time line for anyones info.
I sent I751 in Jan. 09 with new photos, medical claims with both names, joint bank account statemnets with both names, joint auto insurance with both names and various insurance policies with my name as beneficary. I got appointment for biometrics right away and they were done in Feb. 09. THe letter I received dated June 28th said this was “insufficient evidence”, with original list of requiremnets. I am not on the mortgage as my husband owned it when I moved here. This time I bombarded them with information: My bank account statements, medical records, several utility statements with both names, 3 years of tax returns, personal photos, and 2 hand written affidavits. And I registered the package with the post office and required them to sign for it so I would know when they received it. ANd they received it yesterday at 2:45 pm. So now I sit and wait again.
I called USCIS when I got the letter for them to define better what they wanted as well as tell me what they meant by saying “the entire period of our marriage”. I asked did they want for example-36 months of bank statemnets, or 24 monts of utility bills. They refused to define it any further and just kept repeating it exactly how it is written.
This has been unbelievably frustrating. Especially as my husband is a retired major with the AirForce and still works for them with one of the highest security clearances they can give and we live in a military community, where many many people marry immigrants (maybe that is the reason). ANd I am Canadian and have lived right near the border my whole life. I guess I just took it for granted in feeling like I could cross the border without problems as we have several times a year my whole life. I guess this is what 9/11 has done.
It sure enlightened me as to why there are so many illegals here.
I will keep you posted an dcontinue to pray for all.



MG

Hello,
i filed my i-751 in CA (MAY 09).did my biometrics(JUL.1), but i don’t know what’s next? do i just wait till i get something in the mail? how long will that take? Thank you.



Lana

MG

Now you just need to wait You lucky you have CA It might take about 2 month Mine in Vermont waiting over 6 month now didn’t got anything yet



Kerry

MG,
Lana is right, you are lucky to be dealing with California, you can read my story above and learn just how slow Vermont is. As long as you followed all the instructions correctly the rest is up to them and they will notify you of the next step. Good luck!



Ricky

I have never received appointment letter after receiving extension letter 2 months ago. Its just so strange…did anyone have case like mine or its just my bad luck!!



bluebell

I have received the approval letter June 4, 2009 that said that my green card should be coming within the next 60 days. It’s July 16 today and I still have not received the permanent green card in the mail.
Did anyone experience this after they received the approval letter?



MG

Bluebell,
hOw long did u wait to get the apprOval letter after gOing 2 ur biometrics appoinment???
it’s been 2 weeks nOw since i went for my biometric, ’til nOw i haven’t receive any mail from them….



bluebell

MG,

I went for my biometrics on May 30th and the approval was done on June4th and I received the approval letter on June 8th.
You’re still within the time frame, so don’t worry, the letter will come.



LUCKY

ROSE.

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!! FINALLY YOU GOT YOUR 10 YRS GC… I AM SO HAPPY FOR YOU. GOD BLESS YOU.

BLUEBELL,
CONGRATS FOR U TOO, SHORTLY YOU WILL GET YOUR CARD.

RICKY.

HIRE A GREAT LAWYER YOU WILL BE FINE, THE LETTER SAY SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE 6 MONTHS TO LIVE THE COUNTRY? WELL HURRY UP

GOOD LUCK TO ALL



Ricky

Lucky, i was at my lawyers office today. He looked trough my papers and he said that everything is ok with the papers. In the letter doesn’t says anything about leaving the country. He believes that i am missing notices. Between extension letter and notice to appear in court i was supposed to receive 4 more notices, thats what he said. If my i-751 was denied, they would send me denial letter explaining why was denied, if i missed my biometrics appointment they would send another notice. I have never received any of this letters. However, he made an infopass appointment for next Tuesday. I signed NOTICE TO APPEAR form for him so that he can go and see what is going on with my process. He assured me that my NOTICE TO APPEAR IN COURT doesn’t make any sense based on my papers. Now i am waiting for Tuesday to see whats gonna happen…



Rose

lucky,

good you still remember me, finally i was nevous because i was called for interview actually i a m child filed separated from my parent they filed jointly and they were approved 4 mos ahead of me, so on the way of my waiting they got separated (with restraint order), i was so nervous because i have to bring the petitioner ( i did not) . But to make the story short I brought a lawyer with us and after all the prayers ,sleepless nights ..with all the papers i brought , the officer only asked my school documents , they just wanna know what am I doing. Finally i got approved but i dont have the card yet it will be in the mail 60 days or earlier accdg to them..it was really a celebration after all the agonies.

Still, it has been my habit to go to this site , imagine ive been doing this for 12 months every morning to read all and give some answers.

Thank you for those who stll tracking and remember me



Rose

to all,

I believe that only prayers helped me on this, no had the same case as mine but I hold on to Bible verse Deuteronomy chepter1:17-18. “You shall not fear man, for the judgement is God’s, The case that’s too hard for you, you shall bring it to me and I will hear it.”



Frank

To all
I need your help. My wife’s conditional visa expires in 80 days and I need to file a petition to remove her conditional status, form I-751. However, in issuing the 2 yr green card USCIS tranposed her last names. She is from latin america and after their first name they use the paternal last name first and then the maternal last name second. USCIS placed the maternal last name first and the paternal last name second. How can I request this to be changed in the I-751 petition and what proof do I need to submitt ? Thank you.



Ricky

Frank, you are 10 days late with your petition. I would advise you to wait an answer from immigration, after you submmit your application and then if approved for 10 yr green card, you can do all this changes when she applies for passport, i wouldn’t be worried about all that. And you could’ve asked for this changes right after she got her 2 yr GC..its says in the letter that came with GC..anyhow, good luck to you, I cant wait til Tuesday to hear from my lawyer, he is going to immigration to find out what is going on with my case…so nervous!!!!!!!



Rose

ricky,

I can feel what you feel, I had nervous for 2 weeks before my interview, just hold on to your prayer.



Frank

To all,
Thanks Ricky. So you Are saying to turn in the I-751 petition with my spouse’s ast names transposed and after her 10yr green card gets here to ask USCIS to change the postions of the last names ? Is that an easy fix after the 10yr green card is issued ? Anybody out there had this same problem – beneficiary of hispanic origin- customary to have First name, paternal last name followed by maternal last name but immigration transposed last names to maternal first and followed paternal for the 2yr conditional green card ? It’s just that any US documentation that follows: driver’s license, SS#, etc these agencies issue corresponding documents to match the green card. Appreciate any help !



Ricky

I received two letters from immigration today. Decision on my i-751 form that is denied because we did not show up on interview that was scheduled on June 23, we never received this letter. I hope that we will be able to reschedule this interview. Frank i would call a lawyer and ask about this. However, i dont understand why you didnt do all this changes right after you got the 2yr green card, that would be the best. But i believe that your case is not a problem because this all can be fixed. You have probably heard that they ask you if you want to change the name and other information once you start the passport process, but you should focus on sending in your I-751 ASP, because if you dont file 90 days before, they might ask you to send in an explanation letter why have you not submitted the letter 90 days before the expiration date. They are just weird in how they do their things. Look at my case, i was denied because i never received a letter from them, and they said that they mailed to me, now i have to hire a lawyer and spend God knows how much money just to get back on track..it sucks..



bluebell

Rose,

Congrats, finally your prayers have been answered! I got my card in the mail last week, hurray!

Frank,
I’d ask a good lawyer what to do in your case.

Ricky,

Don’t lose heart, they have to fix this mess you’re in somehow. I know first hand what a mistake made by them can cost someone, I pray that things will be solved soon.



Ricky

Bluebell, i don’t know if i can take this anymore. Yesterday when i got again the letters from immigration i had anxiety attack, i couldn’t breathe..i just want this to be over.



Rose

Ricky,

yes..I believe it can be solved you have all the proof, I know the feeling I got sick too, until it is over , I will pray for you. Just hold on.

Bluebell,

Congrats too, I havent have the card yet , on line my case is still pending, but it is 60 days or earlier in the mail.



bluebell

Rose,

I got my card 45 days after I got the approval letter!

Ricky,

More than you will ever know, I know exactly the feelings you;re going through right now. I will be praying for you that God will help you, get all your stuff together and a good lawyer, truth will prevail.
Hold on, don’t despair, I believe that you will be OK….



MG

Bluebell,
Congrats!!! im so happy :)u already got ur greencard,,,

i’m still waiting for the approval letter, most of the people that filed in Ca. got the approval letter 1-2 weeks after the biometric,,its been 21 days nOw since i did my biometric,til nOw no mail and still pending when i checkd the status online,,,

Anybody here filed May ’09 in CA and still waiting for the approval?????



Ricky

Thank you guys, i need all the luck in the world. My lawyer said that he will try to set up another appointment because we missed the one in June. I need to fax him the letters i have received from immigration including the envelope with the date and everything..i want to believe…



chonz

bluebell,

congratulations to you!!!!

Ricky,

I will be praying for you. I know that is really frustrating especially you didn’t receive the letter that they sent. Believe and trust God.

Lana,

Any news from your application? I haven’t heard anything from them. No mail or letters after the biometrics done. It’s almost a month already.

Rose,

I read your msgs and that was so great, you had your biometrics and after few days you got the letter stating that you are approved. California is really fast.



KELVIN

Can i ask a question about requesting “affidavits from friends” in I-751?

Have USCIS ever called to friends?

And If i didnt submit those affdavits, are there any difficults for my case?



JOHN

Dear Friends,

I thought this information would be helpful to you for those who are planning to go out side of USA after filing for I 751.

I filed form I-751 in 05/07/2009
Received 1 Year Extentions in 06/2009
Went to India on 07/08/2009
2 Years GC was expired on 07/17/2009
Returned to USA on 07/21/2009

I was able to enter USA with Indian Passport + Expired GC + 1 Year Extention.



Ricky

John, i wouldn’t really recommend to anyone to travel with expired documents. Its know how rude and demanding they can be at the airport. I have met a real people that have been trough a lots of bad experiences with immigration, including myself. You were just lucky, but sometimes the luck…



Evans

Vermont Center is moving at a fast pace now, I applied my i-751 Mar 2009, got my extension and biometrics within 2 weeks, no interview, no additional documents asked. My application got approved 20th July waiting for my 10yr G.C Mid August 2009



chonz

Congratulations Evans!!!
That’s a good news for us who applied in Vermont.
Still no letter from Vermont after my biometrics.



bianca

hello everybody
I`m happy i found this site,it`s very helpful.
i sent my application for I751 ON JULY 20th to Vermont Center,they received it the next day.now i`m waiting for the notice letter.I wish you all good luck



Lana

Evans

Congratulations.
I am still waiting for mine. I applied in Desember 2008, biometrics in February. Didn’t heard anything since then. I called them but no one doesn’t tell me anything.



Rose

TO All,

finally , I got my GC-10 yr in the mail they send it July 20 and I received it today 28th, its very much early than 60 days. I feel happy now.



Dorie

Congrats, Rose, I know you are now relieved from all the stress that this journey had caused.
Mine took 7 “long” months, and since june 23rd “I am free”.



Rose

Thank you Dorie, it was a long wait for me (17 months) with interview. It was really tough experience in waiting. Now I can plan my steps ahead.



Asif

Hi, this is a great blog, I found it very helpful; reading it for a few weeks now, felt confident and finally submitted form I-751 jointly to remove the conditions of residence @ 07/24/09.
Both of my checks, Form I-751 and Biometric Service cleared yesterday, 07/28/09 from my bank account.
Question: Having both check cleared means they are satisfied with initial evidence that I submitted, and now I’ll be getting 1 year extension before they fully process my application?
Thank you in advance for you help.



Bonnie

We mailed the I-751 the first of March. Did biometrics 2 weeks later. About a month or two later we got the extension. 5 months from the date it was first mailed (today) we got the permanent card. Woo hoo! Was done at Vermont.



Rose

wow!! vermont is working fast now, you are lucky during our time it take8-13 months ,im the worst 17 months…



John

Hi Rose & Bonnie,

Congratulations on your Permanent Cards!!!



Asif

I submitted I-751 @ 07/24/09, got Notice of Action, advising of 1 yr extension @ 07/29/09 and saying I’ll be getting another letter for my Biometric Service appointment. – Vermont service center -



Franc

Just want to share to all that I already received my 10yrs GC. Thanks Bluebell and congratulations to you too. Did you receive your GC yet? Rose, congratulations to you too and to everyone who already receive their GC. Just be patient to others who are waiting still..will be praying for you all… God Bless!

Franc

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Timeline -

05/09/09 Submitted i-751 to CSC
05/18/09 Cashed Check
07/02/09 Scheduled Fingerprint
07/22/09 Received an email – card ordered
07/25/09 Received official letter – notice going receive 10GC in 60 days
07/28/09 Received 10 yrs GC



chonz

Franc,

where did you submit your application? I have almost the same timeline with you but after the biometrics, I haven’t receive anything from them. I submitted mine to Vermont.

Thanks.

Chonz



JOHN

FRANC… Congratulations!!! and thanks for praying for us.

CHONZ… Franc submitted to CSC.



Rufa

I just got an email of Card Production for my 10yrs GC, through California Service Center. I have been following through this page since 6 months ago. Sharing my information for the sake of others waiting. Hope they get their GC ASAP.

Just want to mention that I didn’t submit any private photo, I have plenty, don’t mind to show them in interview but against stacking them in USCIS Archive.

Time line:

03/12/09 Submitted i-751 to CSC
03/24/09 Cashed Check
04/11/09 Scheduled Fingerprint
08/05/09 Received an email–card ordered



Hendry

Hello Guys,

I am in a bit of dilemma here and hopefully I can find some answers. My conditional GC is expired on November 20th and I am planning to travel on October 3 – October18. Should I file I-751 after I come or before? I am afraid if I file after the trip, the extension letter will come after 11/20 and I will be out of status? or if I file before I go on the trip, what if they call us for an interview or biometrics when we are travelling?



bluebell

Hendry,

If I were you, I wouldn’t plan to travel anywhere before you get your stuff in order. Nothing is more important than getting your card, your trip can wait.
And you should file after the 20th of August, 90 days before your conditional green card expires. I think that you would be done with the fingerprints even before your trip, depending where you file. Send everything express mail, that way you should know that they got your docs.
That’s my two cents of advice, hope it answers some of your questions.



European

“$205 processing fee (!!)”

You are lucky. I paid $595 for that, few months ago.



John

Any one that filed to VSC in April 09 or May 09 got approvals ?

I read in other forums that May 09 filers at CSC are being approved.



Lynne

Hi everyone! I’ve been following this site since my husband and I submitted our packet. We sent everything in March and my husband just received his card today! We submitted to Vermont….5 month process. Happy that we got his card! =)



Lana

John,
CA is a lot faster then Vermont. I know what they processing the end of March now, but I sent mine in December 2008 and still nothing. I hope you will be more lucky then me and get yours soon.



chonz

John,

i submitted mine to vermont on May 09 but until now i haven’t receive any letter from them after the 1 year extension letter. Still waiting for any development.

i’ll keep everybody posted. God bless to everybody.



Ameer

Hello i have many questions and finally i found this nice website .. i filed i751 and i send many documents .. i got extension letter and then the biometric letter what is going to happen after that.. how much is the chance for giving me interview.. can u please reply



Ameer

is it a big deal if we dont have a baby and she didnt change her last name..



Dorie

Ameer

you do not need to worry. If you have submitted enough proof, not having a baby and/or not taking the husband’s name shouldn’t be a problem.
My husband and I do not have any children yet but my petition was approved.
Since you’ve received the extension letter you only have to wait until you receive the biometrics appointment letter.



Ameer

DORIE i recieved the biometrics appointment letter 1 week ago. i want to know what they will do in the biometric appointment will they ask any questions ?? and what do i have to bring with me only 2 years green card?



Ameer

i send..
1-electric and heat bills for like 8 month..
2- tax filing
3 tax return
4- lease in both names
5- couple receipts of the house lease and water bills
6- 4or 5 pictures
7-2 affidavits from friends stamped from a lawyer
8-marriage certificate
9- joint bank account paper from the bank showing we have account opened for more than 1 year
… i dont know thats all what we could find we didnt think about it



Dorie

Ameer

The biometrics appointment is to capture your fingerprints, picture and signature; you should wait until you receive it. Because I hadn’t heard anything from the USCIS office 5 months after receiving the extension letter, I had made and appointment (info pass) on April the 16th to see an officer and find out what was happening. That same day, I was given a letter to have the biometrics taken.
Than 25 days later I recieved the biometrics appointment letter, needless to say how unhappy I was. So I still went (my biometrics were taken twice), on May the 21st. On June 9th I receive the approval letter and the card on June the 23rd.

Regarding your evidence I think as long as both of your names appeared (regardless your wife decided to change her name) you should be find.
I only submitted
-Bank statement with both names
-Two years of tax return (filled jointly)
-Lease agreement with both names
-Vehicle registration with both names
-Declaration page of automobile insurance with both name
-Copy of vacation packages with both names
-12 Pictures of the both of us on specific occasion: – hristmas
– acation
– birthday parties
– games
-2 sworn affidavit of a friend and brother-in-law
-Church donation statement with both names.

If I were you I wouldn’t worry.

-



Lana

Ameer

On biometrics they going to take your pictures and fingerprints. They don’t ask any questions.You just need to bring your GC with you. I think you should be fine it seems like you sent good proofs. Did you sent it to Vermont or CA?



Ameer

Lana i send my papers to CA but a friend told me that after the biometric they will interview me to take the 2 years expired green card and stamp my passport i dont really know whats goin on we didnt think about it honestly.. we did send all the proofs we have.. but i dont get it why do they have to stamp my passport and why am worried cause my passport is expired and i dont want to travel overseas.. iam working married and happy in here :) please guys support me :) thanks god i found this website



Lana

Ameer

You don’t need to stamp your passport. you would need to stamp it only if they processing it over a year and your extension letter expired. They can ask you to come for an interview but I don’t think they will it seems like you sent good proofs. So just go for your biometriks, and after its done you just need to wait. I also think what you will get your card very soon because CA is very fast not like Vermont so you are very lucky.Good Luck



Ameer

thanks LANA i hope its easy for everyone too :)



Dorie

Ameer

Check with your country’s embassy they might be able to renew your passport here in the US. That’s what I did



sueSUE

i am sending my I751 package very soon and want to make sure i do the right thing. I have a lot of documents that i acquired as evidence. Do i send only photocopies?? also i can’t find our tax returnd, will that affect the process? other than that I have almost all that you guys mentioned….please help…



sueSUE

bluebell,

did you copy all pages of the documents or or just the front rage that states your name and your spouse?



bluebell

Sue,

I just copied the first page with our names for most of the documents, except the taxes. However, I whited out bank account numbers, social security numbers, bank account balances, you name it.
They need to see your names on the stuff and I didn’t want all my info in one place. Can you imagine what one evil person can do to you when they have all your info in one place? I’m not saying that it will happen, but with all the id theft going on around, I wanted to be safe rather than sorry.
They didn’t give me any grief about it, I don’t even think they noticed.
Hope that helps!



sueSUE

bluebell,
you’re a genius! thank you for your wisdom!

suesue



sueSUE

bluebelle.

3 binders? what did you send? any tips for me as to how to arrange my docs? do u think fastening the docs all togeher will help instead of just putting all in an envelope? did you have all in legal size paper?

thanks again.

suesue



Rosalinda

i have received my approval letter few days ago , i would like to say that the process was easy and clear my case took about 2 months 2 weeks untill it was approved i have done only biometrics i sent my application to CA office. i think the whole process was pretty fast. just be straight forward in ur all documents and info. Good luck for all



sueSUE

rosalinda,

how did you organize you documents? any tips for me? i am due to send my package by mid september. I just want to make sure i am doing things right. thanks you

suesue



Kerry

Woo!! Hoo!
I just got my new 10 year card today!!!
Started this proocess January of this year!!
You can look back at my other posts. This has felt like the longest 8 months of my life!
Next step for me is citizenship!!
Good luck to y’all, take care and God Bless YOU!



Ameer

guys friday am going to do my biometrics do i have to bring passport pictures with me or they will take pictures of me over there???



Lana

Kerry

Congratulations !!!!!!
I am stil waiting. After biometrics in February I haven’t resive anything. I called USCIS customer service last Monday to report my case outside of processing times. They told me what they are going to send a request to Vermont, and during 30 day period I must get an answer what is going on with my case. I am so tired of this mess.



Lana

Ameer

You don’t have to bring pictures they will take your pictures there You just need your GC



Mike

Please anyone knows good sample of sworn affidavit to support my I-751 form.Thank you



sueSUE

kerry,

congratulations!! 8 long months of waiting is over for you. mine has yet to start, so i hope it won’t be that long. any wisdom for me?

suesue



Lana

Last Monday I called USCIS customer service and opend service request because my I-751 is outside normal processing times. Today I got the answer in the mail It says following

The status of this service request is:

Our computer system show that your petition/aplication is still pending United States Citizenship and Immigration Services consideration. For future status inquiries of petition or application filed at this Center, you may want to utilize Case Status Online at http://www.uscis..gov.

This is ridiculous I know what it is still pending! That is why I made a request to find out why. I have the right to know what is going on but no one tells me anything.



Ameer

hello iam going to do my biometric do they make me fill application?? what should i fill out can someone reply fast thanks



bianca

ameer
you have to fill out an application.make sure you have the green card with you and the appointment letter for biometrics.you have to write your name,place of birth,country of citizenship,your father and mother`s first names,your address,your height,weight…your alien#,the application receipt#(for I751).
It`s very easy and fast.I wish you good luck.i just had the biometrics done today



bianca

to ameer again
about filling out the “application receipt number”… i filled out that one from the ASC appointment notice(biometrics app.)…well i just noticed that there is a different receipt number on my first I-797 Notice of Action(there it says:receipt number)…but on the ASC Appointment Notice it says “application number”…so i filled out the second one with which you can check out your status on-line.I hope i did it right…you can ask some other people too to make sure it`s gonna be ok…oh, and they also ask for you social security number you to fill it out



Ameer

bianca
just came back from biometric`s appt pretty easy.. whats next now :S



bianca

ameer
now all we can do is waiting….let us know when you get the approval letter and the green card.good luck to you and all of us



bluebell

Sue,

I bought a 3 hole binder and I arranged everything in order in that binder. I have put colored paper (neon green, my favorite ) between the documents and I printed on it what the next document was.
On the front page, my hubby wrote a letter requesting the removal of my conditions and we listed all the documents we sent.
Also, after the letter, I made a list with everything we sent and then put all the docs together.
I’ll post on Monday what we sent, I don’t have it with me right now.
The easier you make it for them to see all the docs in one place, the less chance that they will bother you again.
If you send everything in an envelope, docs get out of place, they can lose them, and you don’t want to take that chance. I didn’t for sure, so I made sure that everything I sent was no easily lost. A binder is pretty hard to lose.

I’ll post on Monday the list if I still have it on my laptop.



sueSUE

Bluebelle,
Thank you so much for the response.i sure will try to organize mine as best as i can. also i don’t think my docs will be a lot like yours but i copied 3 different dates of the following
List of Documents:
1.Filled form I-751
2.Copy of Permanent Resident Card (front and back)
3.Copy of joint bank account statement (Chase checking/savings)
4.Copy of IRS letter,2008 Income Tax Return, and W2
5.Copy of Electric Bill (Indianapolis Power and Light Company)
6.Copy of cell phone bill and letter (AT&T)
7.Copy of Certificate of Vehicle Registration
8.Copy of vehicle insurance (GEICO)
9.Copy of health insurance cards
10.Copy of explanation of benefits (delta detal and Young Life Benefit Plan)
11.Copy of letters/mails sent to us by friend
12.Copy of gym membership (YMCA and Lifetime Fitness)
13.Copy of driver license ) reflecting names and current address
14.Copy of Payroll statement showing our house address
15.Copy of flight itineraries/ e-tickets for several of our trips
16.Copy of Holiday greeting cards sent to family and friends (Dec 2007 and Dec 2008)
17.Photos (2007-2009) of ourselves, family, and friends,

let me know what you think.



bluebell

Hi Sue,

Here is the letter my hubby wrote to INS and we listed everything we sent. Hope this helps!

John Doe
10255 E Larkmeadow
Somewhere, AL 00000
Phone: 000-000-0000
Email: someone@gmail.com

States Department of Homeland Security
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services
USCIS California Service Center
P.O. Box 10751
Laguna Niguel, CA 92607-1075

March 30, 2009

Re: I-751 joint petition to remove conditions of status on:

My spouse A#000-000-000

Dear Sir or Madam:

Enclosed please find the joint Form I-751, Petition for removal of conditions of permanent resident status for my spouse Jane Doe.

I am enclosing the following:

• Application fee $545.00
• Form I-751
• Additional address page
• Passport Photos
• Copy of Permanent Residence Card
• Sworn affidavits from my father in law and 3 of our friends
• Pictures
• Plane ticket reservation for the 2008 trip to someplace
• Copies of the current and previous lease
• Copy of the health insurance card and beneficiary of the health savings account
• Copies of car insurance and renter’s insurance policies past and present
• Copies of phone and APS bills-past and present
• Copies of joint bank accounts statements
Chase
Bank of America-checking and savings
X Credit Union-Checking and savings and joint car loan borrowers
• Credit card copies: X, Y and Z
• Copy of honeymoon registration form
• Copies of federal and state taxes for 2006 and 2007

We are happily living together and request that this petition be accepted for removal of conditions on the residence of my spouse Jane Doe..

Copies of documents submitted are exact photocopies of unaltered documents and I agree to submit original documents to an Immigration or Consular officer at a later date, if required. You are always welcome to visit our home should you ever desire to do so.

Yours truly,

John Doe



sueSUE

bluebelle,
thanks for the info you have for me. i have almost all except for the affidavits. i already asked some to mae one for us….thanks again!!



Ameer

hell guys i have a question hmm now i can check my status online.. the wac********** so its going to be faster than mail? or they will send me something in mail befor they update my case on thier website?? can anyone tell me please :D



Ameer

i want to type hello :( i typed hell iam sorry



bluebell

Sue,

You’re welcome!

Ameer, You’re too funny!



Ameer

bluebell u didnt tell me what is faster check my status online or check my mail?



Lana

Ameer
It is hard to say what is faster some people was able to see what they approved online before the letter and some people say what they never see what they was approved online only letter. So I wouldn’t trust their online sistem I guess they don’t do a really good jub updaiting it



chonz

hello guys,

until now i haven’t heard anything from the USCIS for my application since May. I am wondering if someone here submitted in vermont and have been approved since they passed their paper since May. Bluebell, i should have ask you before on how to send the papers coz i sent my mine in the envelope only. wish i could change it but i can’t.



Peris

Any ideas for quickest way to reach live operator at customer service? My frustration is kicking in with the automated voices…



Lana

Peris

Try the change address option it connects you to the live operator then explane what do you need and they transfer you to another operator what will answer your questions I did it 2 times and they was very nice to me Good luck!



RALPH

I SENT MY 1 751 IN MAY..RECEIVED A EXTENSION THE SAME MONTH..GET MY FINGERPRINT ON JUNE..I WNT TO USCIS AND THEY GIVE A STAMP ON MY PASSPORT TO PROOVE THT I CAN WORK AND TRAVEL BC MY BOSS DIDNT TRUST THE PAPPER…SO ID LIKE TO KNOW WHT IS NEXT..IF THERS INTERVIEW..OR WAIT FOR THE GC IN MAIL



bluebell

Ameer,

I didn’t check my status online at all, I didn’t have to. My card came 45 days after the approval letter arrived.

Chonz,

If you didn’t get anything from INS since May, I think you should start calling them. Did you get a receipt for the docs you sent? Did they cashed the check you sent?
Don’t wait too long, the longer you wait without an answer, the harder is going to be for you. How did you send your documents? Do you have any proof that you mailed them?
Call them and make an appointment in person with infopass and find out what’s going on.
It’s way too long since May without an answer. One of my friends in Vermont had the papers there and it went pretty fast for her as well.
Wish you the best, if you need, get a good attorney, but don’t wait!



John

“Thanks unto GOD for all the kindness and faithfulness that HE has shown”

Dear Friends,

Thank you all for your prayers. Today I received approval letter from USCIS in mail.
It took 4 Months 2 days from Receipt Date to Decision Date.

FYI: USCIS case status online was not updated and it is still showing ‘pending’ status.

I truly wish you all the best….

Time Line:
04/28/2009 – Sent I 751 Packet to VSC (USPS Priority Certified Mail)
04/30/2009 – Packet Delivered at Saint Albans, VT
05/08/2009 – Check was cleared in my Bank Account
05/11/2009 – Received I-797C Notice of Action
05/28/2009 – Received ASC Appointment for Biometrics
06/17/2009 – Finger Prints
09/11/2009 – Approval Letter for USCIS



ralph again

I SENT MY 1 751 IN MAY..RECEIVED A EXTENSION THE SAME MONTH..GET MY FINGERPRINT ON JUNE..I WNT TO USCIS AND THEY GIVE A STAMP ON MY PASSPORT TO PROOVE THT I CAN WORK AND TRAVEL BC MY BOSS DIDNT TRUST THE PAPPER…SO ID LIKE TO KNOW WHT IS NEXT..IF THERS INTERVIEW..OR WAIT FOR THE GC IN MAIL



bianca

Congratulations John. Great news :)
Many blessings



ralph again

I SENT MY 1 751 IN MAY..RECEIVED A EXTENSION THE SAME MONTH..GET MY FINGERPRINT ON JUNE 17..I WNT TO USCIS AND THEY GIVE A STAMP ON MY PASSPORT TO PROOVE THT I CAN WORK AND TRAVEL BC MY BOSS DIDNT TRUST THE PAPPER…SO ID LIKE TO KNOW WHT IS NEXT..IF THERS INTERVIEW..OR WAIT FOR THE GC IN MAIL



Lana

Ralph Again

You need just wait till you get something from USCIS You might get an interview but it is very rare you can get a request for more evidance if they not satisfied with yours. So you need just wait now for something in the mail.



Lana

John

Congratulations!!!

I am stil waiting dont know what to do anymore I send my I-751 in December 2008 got extension letter January 2009 biometrics February 2009 and nothing since then called USCIS like 100 times put on the service request what my case is outside of processing times got respond what it is pending. So I am waiting for over 8 month already and no one don’t want to tell me what is going on with my case



RALPH

LANA…….

U DNT HVE TO WORRY THEY WILL SEND U UR GREEN CARD



ralph again

lana… when u r case take longer then the processing times is ok for u…bc they wont send u any interview or ask u for evidence u just got to wait for the greend card believe me….



Lana

Ralph

Thank you for kind words
Personnaly I would rather go for interview right now then wait any longer. I wouldn’t mind them asking for evidence eather I have a tons of it. It is just waiting without knowing what is going on killing me!



RALPH

sometimes they take times its depend of the agent ..probably lazy..lol



Lana

Ralph

I hope your agent is not as lazy as mine Good luck with your I-751.



RALPH

thks lana



John

BIANCA… Thanks a lot!

LANA.. Thank you very much!

I pray that Lord will turn your waiting period into wonderful moment soon.



Ameer

Hello guys
i got a letter its say congrats your case has been aproved bla bla bla and you will recieve your card in 60 days :D what that means :P and they will send me some forums for what??



RALPH

HOW LONG U R CASE TOOK AMEER B4 THEY SEND U THIS APPROVAL LETTER



Ameer

it all took …. i send the papers and after 10 days they send me reciept and after two weeks they send me the biometric papers .. and then after 3 weeks they send me the approval.



Sharon

Hello everyone,
I’m new here. I will need send my I-751 next month. I need to know that if I can get a affidavit letter from my mother in law? How many photos should I include?

Thanks.



Ameer

what is I797 D forums?



Ameer

guys after that approval letter i will get 10 years green card? iam confused please reply me asap



melanie

Hi guys,
im so glad to see this. Here is my time frame so far:
5-14-2009, applied for I751
5-20-2009, got the receipt for 1 year extension letter
5-29-2009, received notice for biometrics
6-05-2009, had biometrics printed
and now is still waiting waiting waiting………
can anyone tell me how long it is gonna take???
frustrated melanie



chonz

bluebell,

i already have my biometrics in June after I submitted my documents last May 4. But after the Biometrics until now I haven’t hear anything from them. This long wait is killing me. They didn’t request for more documents.

Melanie,

Where did you send your documents? I sent mine at Vermont and we have almost the same time frame. I haven’t receive anything from them after the biometrics. I don’t know if i need to call them now or wait until they send something to me.



ralph again

ameer
yes u will recieve ur gc 10 years…beetwen 20 and 45 day ..or early… where did u send ur papers vermont or california…bc im still waitin since may 09…i had my fingerpoint taken n had the extension…i wanna know wht goin to happen next



Ameer

ralph
i send my papers to california .. and it took 10 days after i did my finger prints to send me the approval letter



chonz

Ameer,

Congratulations!! That was fast. I was reading your posts here and your papers went well really fast. I submitted mine last May ’09 and until now I haven’t receive any letter from them after the biometrics last June.



ralph again

chonz
we are on the same boat i filed on may 09 too..fingered in june too im still waitin

ameer
california is more faster



ralph again

uscis upgraded their page



chonz

Ralph,

yeah, we are in the same boat. did you submit also in vermont? i don’t know. it’s like it’s forever. I have a friend from las vegas and she sent her documents to california and after 3 months they sent her a letter/form to fill up and then after a couple of weeks they sent a letter of approval. I have been going to the mailbox everyday waiting for the letter from the uscis. But you know what ralph, we are going to be okay. I will pray for your approval too. God bless.



RALPH

THKS CHONZ

I SENT MINE TO VERMONT 2…BC IM FROM NEW YORK…U ARE RIGHT MAN WE WILL RECIEVE THE APPROVAL LETTER PREETY SOON …IM CHECKING MY MAIL BOX EVERY DAY MAN…SO I HOPE BY THE END OF THIS MONTH OR NEXT MONTH WE SHOULD RECECIEVE IT…



RALPH

BUT THE PROCESS TAKE 6 MONTHS AT VERMOSO FAR WE ON 4 MONTHS FRON THE PROCESSING TIMES…SOME PEOPLE RECIVE THIER APROVAL IN 4 OR 5 MONTHS…

TO CHONZ



chonz

Ralph,

Yes, that’s the faith. I know in my heart that it will be soon. If it’s not this month it will be next month. Still going to the mailbox everyday and asking my spouse if he receive anything from the immigration.

God bless you.



RALPH

sorry chonz i tought u was a man…so it will be in the mail preety soon bc i called them n they said vermont is workin on people who filed on april now…so next month we will receive a decision dont worry everything will be fine



chonz

Ralph,

oh, you called them? that is a good news then if they are on April now. It’s fine to call me man coz you dont know at first. Yah,i believe so that everything will turn okay.

Is there anybody here who applied at Vermont that took less that 5 months and had a green card? pls let us know.

Thanks



RALPH

yeah chonz
icalled them . im preeety sure we will get answer in 4months and 10 day or in 5 months…thts mean next month of october we should hear from them…



Lana

To Everyone

I got approval letter today I am SO HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!! Finaly after almost 9 month of waiting. I sent my I-751 To Vermont SC Desember 29 2008 Got NOA1 January 6 2009, biometrics February 6 2009 Called USCIS and put on the servise request outside of normal processing times on August 17 Got the answer what it is pending on August 26 and today I got APPROVAL letter dated September 21 NO request for EVIDANCE or INTERVEW!
To everyone who is still waiting don’t loose hope and belive.

I will post whan my card will come in a mail.



RALPH

woow im happy fr u lana vermont take times..8months…



Lana

Thank you Ralph
Its just like you sed probably I got a lazy agent. I hope you get yours soon.



Ameer

Lana
congrats and iam waiting for my card now like you :P i will post when i get my Card



RALPH

THKS LANA ..I HOPE TO GET MINE TOO SO SOON…U SAID U WAITED FOR 9 MONTHS…IM ON A 4 MONTHS PROCESS..IT SEEM LIKE I HVE A LONG WAY TO GO….



Ameer

guys i got my card today expires in 2019 :) iam going to apply for my citizen soon it took 7 days from the approval letter :) wish you all good luck



RALPH

IM HAPPY 4U AMEER



Ameer

thanks alot RALPH just dont give up guys :)



RALPH

oh lord i wanna recieve my approval letter 2…..im waitin since may09..



Lana

Ralph

I don’t think yours will take as long as mine I send it when they was back -logged so they probably put my case somethere and forgot about it until I called for a service request. I think you will get yours in October . I know it is hard to wait but one butiful day you will go to the mail box as usual thinking why bother to check it it’s not there you take your mail going thoug envelops and suddanly you see the USCIS envelope. Trast me it will happen to you really soon. And all this months of waiting will seem to you as a bed dream.

To everyone who want to know what faster e-mail or the letter I got the letter before the e-mail so dont trust online system to much

Good luck to all



RALPH

thim so happy tht u hve ur 10 years gc…u know people hve family back home they wanna help them..travel to see them and the gc is the only way in this contry to visite family and live a better live…so u r right im on uscis every day cheking my case number it still pending , so i dnt trust their online system…..i hve the faith i will receive something in the mail in october….to be honest my wife give me problems ..if i recieve interview i dnt think she will go with me..bc she cheated on me and got pregnant for someoen else..thks god she already sign all papers and sent them with the 1751…



RALPH

thnks lana



chonz

Hi Lana!

Congratulations to you!!! Nine months is really long time to wait but your waiting is paid off. you have now your approval letter so you will just wait for your gc. Vermont took a long time to do it but at least we know that they are moving.

Ralph,

keep me posted if uscis sends you something or anything about your application. I will keep you posted too since we both sent our documents to vermont. I dont have agent though. do you an agent? i did my papers alone with my husband’s help. I hope our approval letter will come this october. God bless you always and for those who are waiting too.



RALPH

chonz…

i filed it by myself too…u dont need a agent..while the recieved the i 751 and sent u the 1 years extension n got ur fingerprint done..its ok …u dnt hve to worry about evrything…im sure u will recieve ur approval letter soon…this months….i pray god for that…i will let u know if i recieve mine also….. dont worry u will recieve it….God bless all



Lana

Chonz
Thank you I hope your aproval letter will come very soon
By the agent I ment The person from USCIS who was processing my case before the Ralph sed what it takes so long because I got the lazy one LOL



RALPH

YEAH LOL…



chonz

oh, i thought you hired an agent for your documents.

I have no money for an agent. lol

i will wait and i know it will be here soon.



RALPH

YEAH MAN HAVE FAITH



vicky

Hello i need your help guys.. i filed i-751 and i get my papers from my husband.. and i recieved the 10 years green card 1 month ago.. and we got in a big argument and he is threating that he wants to divorce me .. and in this case i will lose my green card and i will be kicked out from USA.. i want to know what will happen if he divorce me after i get the 10 years green card.. Can u guys reply me as soon as possible its very important and I dont have any kids iam very sad..



Lana

Vicky
You can not be deported after you got your 10 year GC, only if you have your conditional 2 year GC. So don’t worry. If your husband divorce you, you still able to stay in USA but you will be able apply for Sitizenship after 5 years of your permanent residency insted 3 years. So don’t take any crap from your husband you have nothing to worry!



RALPH

YEAH VICKY YOU DONT HVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT….U ARE FREE



vicky

yes but if he divorce me now its going to be fishy i got divorced 2 month after i got my 10 years gc? what the immigration will say about it when i want to apply for my citizenship after 5 years :S



RALPH

they wont say nothin…and divorce take times if u dnt sign it..



Lana

Vicky
You have your condition remooved USCIS doesn’t care anymore if you stay with your husband or not. You had your proofs what the marrage was real what is why they have your I-751 approved. By the law the condition is over for you and you can do whatever you want with your life A lot of marrages doesn’t work out and there are people in USCIS not the robots they know what everything can happen what is why there is waiver on I-751 so if people with waiver getting approved without their suppouse why are you worry so much? You have all rights now you are free person and if your husband trying to scare you, do not listen to him. NO ONE CAN DEPORT YOU NOW!



RALPH

good advise u right lana,,,



vicky

thanks alot guys



RALPH

listen guys….

after filed my i 751 in may 09….my wife wanna divorce me bc she cheated on me in got pregnant for someone else..the divorce is in process now..i did fingerprint already since tht i never receive anything…wht do u think it will happen to my case….im praying God tht uscis send me the 10 yrs gc….please share ur opinion.



Gill

well RALPH u might get your 10 gc card but after five years when u want to get ur citizen ship they will check the divorce date and u will be in a big trouble … try to make her stop the divorce :) better for u and if they called you for interview you will be in a biggggg trouble unless if you want to contact them and tell them whats going on… but if i was you i will wait and pray to get the 10 gc who knows what will happen in future :)



Lana

Ralph

If you send enought proofs you will got approved without interview. Try not to change the address I heard a lot of people had problems because of it. And do not sighn the divorce papers in different states different laws but In my state if you don’t sighn the papers divorce process takes 2 years. As long as you get your approval leter before divorce is final you should be fine. Just hope they don’t call you for the interview if they do your wife must to go with you or you get denied. If this happens sighn divorce papers and after divorce is final fill out a new I-751 with waiver. In the case of waiver my advice to you hire a lawer. Personally I think you should get your approval letter soon because I see people from May getting approved now. So remain calm and wait. Good Luck



RALPH

tnks Gill and Lanna..

im waiting for an answer from uscis..and im preety sure they will send me the approval letter..Only God knows….i will let u know when i recieve something Guys…like u said i wont sign it..and she told me if i dnt it will take 5months or more…



RALPH

and a sherif broght me the letter personatly ,,,wht do u think about that



chonz

Ralph,

dont worry about that. i got a feeling that this month, we are going to get out 10 yr GC. you have a good documents. i am sure you will be fine.



RALPH

YEAH CHONZ..U ARE RIGHT..I GOT THESE FEELINGS ALSO



Gill

RALPH
tell me what documents you send?



Lana

Everyone

Today I got my 10 year GC. It took 7 days from aprooval letter and 9 months of processing. Good luck to everyone who is still waiting.!!!!



Ameer

LANA iam happy for you sweetheart



RALPH

gill

i sent

tax return for the 2 years
1 foto of both
cable bills
cellphone bills
my mom sign a papper and notary it bc we live with her….
bank statements



RALPH

im happy for u lana….



RALPH

WHERE ARE EVRYONE



chonz

ralph,

still haven’t receive from uscis. still waiting.



RALPH

yean chonz still nothin ….i think im goin to forget about the times…bc tht goin to make crazy



RALPH

yeah ..still waitin



chonz

this is our 5th month, right? i hope before the month ends will get the card. keep me posted. thanks. God bless you.



RALPH

i think so



chonz

Ralph,

Guess what? i just received the letter from USCIS that they approved me. I will get my card within 60 days. i am so happy.
Let me know when you get yours. i am pretty sure you will soon.



RALPH

WHATTTTTTTTTTTT…..IM HAPPY FOR U…OH LORD I WISH I COULD GET MINE TOO…



RALPH

DO U ALREADY HVE THE 5 MONTHS CHONZ WHT DATE THEY STARTED PROCESSING URS…I FEEL IM GOIN TO RECEIVE MINE ALSO..



chonz

Ralph,

I submitted mine May 4th. So, it’s months. I think i submitted mine few days before you submitted yours. Your documents are really good. I know you will get yours soon. Wait for few days and you will get it.

God bless you



RALPH

they start working on mine on may 27…i dont hve 5 months yet…i probably receive something by the end of this month of next month…God bless u chonz



chonz

then you just have to wait for few more days. it will come soon. have faith.



RALPH

chonz……did they upgrade the status…or they leave it pending on their website page…



chonz

what do you mean, ralph? by the way, after a day they sent an email to me saying that they already order the card and wait for 30 days. but in the mail they said within 60 days.



RALPH

OK CHONZ…I WANNA KNOW WHEN U GO ONLINE IN PUT UR CASE NUMBER , WHT IT SAY IF IT SHOW ..CASE PENDING. I WANNA KNOW IF THEY UPGRADE UR CASE ON THE WEBSITE..U UNDERSTAND



chonz

ralph,

when i looked at the site of uscis it says that they are producing the card for me. They have a new web site, it’s been a while since i checked my file there. i log in and then you know the last circle on that part is where my status is.

Do you have any update in your status?



RALPH

NOT YET CHONZ…

IM STILL WAITIN ,27 OF THIS MONTH OF OCTOBER GOIN TO MAKE ME 5MONTHS SO I DONT KNOW WHEN I WILL RECIEVE MY APROVAL LETTER…THIS PROCESS IS GIVING ME PROBLEM….I PRAY GOD THT TO HEAR MY PRAYERS..



joe

hello everyone..i have been reading this website since feb/2008….yes. this not a typo error (1 year and 8 months) when i applied for removal of conditioning resident. after long nights, checking my mail, email everyday, I went to info pass 3 times, 2 times finger prints (finger prints expired every 15 months)finally my application have been APPROVED. Thank GOD for this!

God bless everyone in this situation



joe

my case hasnt been updated ON USCIS.GOV. It still says Initial Review
“Initial Review”



ralph again

oh lord ! 1year 8months…..thts make me scared i would like to wait that long joe..wooow



ralph again

i mean i wouldnt like



chonz

Joe,

that’s a long wait!!!

Congratulations to you. I know the feeling of being worried and scared. God is so good.

Ralph,

Just have patience. you will receive it sooner. mine is over 5 months. so, just wait.

I’ll pray for you.



joe

i fotgot to mention that I re-took the finger prints again on 09/16/09…so it got after one month of that.



RALPH

joe

im happy for u man..and i think u can apply for citizenship….God bless u

chonz,

U are right my friend i hve to wait there s no choice….but i hve the feeling i will recieve something b4 november 15 or less then that..God bless you my Freinds



Great Dane

I am about to send in my I-751.

It seems like a lot of people deal with this and that the process is VERY slow especially if you have to send it to Vermont.

Does anyone know if you can travel out of the country after your temporary Green Card exppires? Mine expires in January and my wife and I are going on a cruise in March. Does anyone know if they just extend your temporary status while they are working on your case?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.



RALPH

great dane…

AFTER U FINISH FILLING UR I-751 ON TIME…3MONTHS BFORE THE EXPERATION DATE THEY WILL AUTOMATICLY SEND U AN EXTENTION LETTER THT U CAN WORK AND TRAVEL , IS FOR 1 YEARS…IF UR NOT SURE OF IT U CAN GET AN INFO PASS AND GO TO UR LOCAL IMMIGRATION OFFICE THEY WILL PUT A I-551 STAMP ON UR PASSPORT…SO U CAN TRAVEL…JUST SEND THE FILES ON TIME..OK….



joe

Hello guys,

2day I received an email from USCIS.GOV saying that “Current Status: Card production ordered.

On October 19, 2009, we ordered production of your new card.”

…so I think email notification was pretty fast.



ralph again

thts good JOE

I REGESTERED ON THE USCIS WEBSITE I THINK WHEN THEY APPROVE ME I WILL RECIEVE THE SAME THING TOO….I THINK U RECIEVE SOMETHING IN THE MAIL FIST..SO WAITIN IN THE MAIL IS THE 1ST OPTION…



Great Dane

Ralph,

Thank you very much for your information. That is what I was hoping to hear. I appreciate it. Good luck to everyone going through this.



Ameer

Hi guys its me again :P i want to know.. and please i want to be sure.. i got my 10 years card.. how long do i have to wait to file for my us citizenship??? iam still married to the same spouse?? Can anyone tell me for sure.?



RALPH

AMEER

AFTER 3 YEARS U ARE OK TO FILL FOR CITIZENSHIP IF U STILL MARRIED WITH UR SPOUSE…



chonz

hi guys,

i received my card today in the mail. yes! i have my greencard today.
God bless everybody.



ralph again

im happy for u chonz…im only the one left on the boat



chonz

Don’t worry Ralph. You will have yours soon. I waited for 5 months. You still don’t have five months. they are processing yours next. Dont lose hope.



joe

hi guys,
i received my card today in the mail.

Goog luck everybody



ralph

thk you chonz……

like u said i will wait….bye my freind

joe

im happy for you…….i hope to recieve mine soon…



Rose

joe,
congrats still remember me? who waited for 17 months . filed VSC feb 2009 got approved w/ interview july 2009.

congrats again .



ralph

Rose

thts good to see u bck ….



Rose

Ralph,

u still remember me? good luck it will come soon.



Great Dane

Do you have to go get the fingerprints done yourself or do you file the I -751 and then they send you a time and place to go get this done??

Please let me know

Great Dane



ralph

ROSE

IM ON MY 5TH MONTHS SO I DONT KNOW WHEN THEY LL PROCESS MINE….

GREAT DANE.

AFTER FILLING IN 3 WEEKS THEY WILL SEND U A LETTER TO DO UR FINGEPRINT….SO WAIT FOR THE LETTER U CANT GO WITHOUT IT



joe

Rose,

of course i remenber u, u filed it the same month than me…glad to know about u again. thank God the long nights are done for us. the rest of u dont worry everything will be allright.

if God is with u…



ralph

OH LORD IM STILL WAITING…EVRYBODY GOT APPROVED..IM THE ONLY ONE LEFT ON THE BOAT………….



ralph

still waitin …..oh lord.



Randy

filling 751, are affidavits norterized or not, any help there



Randy

sorry,,, notterized



ralph

yes it suppose to be



Randy

Thank You



Randy

Have you got yours yet Ralph?



Joe

I am a US citizen living abroad (Singapore) and married a Korean citizen. FYI, I am not in the military. We were planning on moving back to the US but due to the financial crisis, I haven’t been able to find a job back home. Her conditional PR is due to expire in January and would like to know if I should file the I-751? We are planning on moving back home no longer than 1 1/2 year and do not want to chance her being denied entry due to this.



ralph

RANDY

….NO IM STILL WAITING I FILED MINE SINCE MAY . IT TAKE 6 MONTHS AND UP..



ralph

JOE

U HVE TO FILE THE I 751 ..3 MONTHS B4 THE EXPIRETION DATE ..FILE IT THIS MONTH OR THEY WILL DENY IT…HURRY MAN



adel

hi guys my husband is american citizen now and he want to bring his brother but he has to sponser him so we want to know how much money does he have to make to sponser him thanks



ralph

adel…..cal 1800 375 5283…..and press 123..to costumer service . they will give u all information u need



Randy

I keep reading where people send tax returns. I live on Social Security Disability. Both my wife and I are in our 60′s I don’t have to pay any taxes. Is there going to be a problem there?



chonz

randy,

dont worry about it. just send some bills, bank accounts, insurance will do too. i didnt pass mine. so, i think you will be okay. just give other supporting documents.



ralph

chonz

i still dont recieve nothin …wht s goin on why they take so long



Randy

Thanks Chonz, I have a few things I can send them. Willlet you know how it comes out.



chonz

Ralph,

have you tried calling them? you can wait for few more days then call them. I believe you will receive yours soon. Dont lose hope, okay.

Randy,

you are welcome. i put lots of pictures too.



ralph again

CHONZ

MINE WILL BE 6 MONTHS SOON IN THE 27TH…SO I DONT KNOW WHT TO DO..HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE



chonz

ralph,

you can call them on the 61st day and ask about your case. tell them that it says in the computer that it will take 6 months to process it. and ask them if you need to send any document to expedite the process. just be ready with case number that they sent you so you have everything that they will ask. i will be praying for you.



Max

Good luck to you Ralph. It’s been awhile for you.

I’m collecting documents and filing I-751 this week.



ralph

thk you so much…Ralph and Max



SueSue

Hello everyone!!

only took 2 Months

My petition was approved!! im so thrilled!
All i have left to wait for is may greencard!

BLUEBELLE, you’re awesome. thanks for the wisdom.

Timeline:
Mailed form I751 and docs 09/19/09
received 09/22/09
biometrics 10/30/09
approved 11/19/09
just waiting for my greencad to arrive



Albert

Hi everybody
I always read you saying that Vermont or California are working now on the applications for exemple they received on June, May 2009, how do you know that? how do u check that?
Thank you
Albert



Alexis

Hello. Great website. I love that everyone is sharing their scenarios.

My husband’s I-751 is coming up. His GC expires on 03/27/10. I know many people file without an attorney, but my brother is insisting we hire one. Since he is paying, I’m saying YES. So, I’m wondering if anyone has suggestions on attorneys for filing the I-751? We live in Texas, but since it’s immigration, location doesn’t matter.

We’re fairly young; 23 & 24. We don’t have many assets that we can show but we do have:

-2 years of lease agreements
-3 years of bank statements (but not much money in there)
-Joint title on our car
-Auto insurance with both our names
-renters insurance with bot names
-utility bills in his name and 1 in mine, but showing the same address
-pictures
-affidavits from my mother, my 2 brothers, a part-time employer, and a friend
-our drivers licenses have same address

I’m not sure what else. We haven’t really taken a vacation since we don’t have much money. I mean, long weekends, but no place like Hawaii or anything.

I hope we have enough. Anyway; comments are appreciated. Thank you!



ralph

alexis

u hve good documents u good to go…dont worry



SueSue

Timeline:
Mailed form I751 and docs 09/19/09
received 09/22/09
biometrics 10/30/09
approved 11/19/09
greencard received 11/27/09

THANKS A LOT FOR ALL YOUR HELP!!



adel

Alexis
your doing fine :) thats great documents



chonz

Alexis,

I think you are okay with your documents. I didn’t hire any attorney to file for my papers. I just did it by myself and it went well. You are going to file at vermont same as mine and it might take long compared to california. That’s what i’ve learned here in this site, most immigrants who filed in california were approved faster than vermont but don’t worry it will be okay. i included lots of pictures with captions on them.
Good luck.



ralph

chonz

i never recieve anything



chonz

Ralph,
Have you called them? you might need to call them and follow up about your case. God bless



ralph

i called them they said i should recieve something in 9 months…so in febuary



Alex

I learned my lesson from my I-90 process, and after getting a NOID (Notice of intent to deny) I had to lawyer up.

My wife just got her green card, after an excruciating ordeal with USCIS for her and everybody in our lives. After a 7-month ordeal, she finally got her conditional green card yesterday, but not without spending lots of money on fees and legal fees, and many late nights coming up with evidence of our bona fide marriage, while still working hard each day so we can pay Uncle Sam. We felt like we were under a microscope during the whole process, and we totally lost our privacy. We couldn’t believe all the hurdles and costs of doing things right to be legal in this country, while many illegals in this country who do not follow the rules are free to roam with cost, without waiting in line, without the painstaking ordeal, and not fear deportation as my wife did during this process.
I will definitely be on my toes for the I-751 in 1.75 years, taking lots of pictures of us at family gatherings, regularly collecting evidence, and making sure both of our names are on contracts, bills, titles, etc, and making sure our family and friends will send affidavits confirming of our loving marriage. It’s such a burden for us as newlyweds, and we really value privacy, but we managed it well so far. It’s sad that it’s so stressful for us to keep fighting the government, and that there is no way recover my attorney fees even though USCIS is wrong to accuse us against our bonafide marriage.



chonz

Ralph,

They said 9 months? Did they tell you they need more documents? why will it take 9 months? did you ask them?



ralph

chonz……………

No they didnt ask me for more evidences….they just talking..they transfer me to costumer service n he said i should receive answer on febuary…and he told me good luck on that..



chonz

ralph,

Pray and trust God. You will soon get the answer.



ralph

they send me somethng today they say i hve interview on feb 1…..and my told me she s not goin with me bc we goin thru divorce right now so i dnt know what to do now….



ralph

wife



chonz

ralph,
did both of you signed in the form? or did you apply for the one that’s say that you are filing by yourself?



tony's divorce and i-751

I was married in 2007 and lived with my wife for only 3 months before she kicked me out of her home and went back to her ex lover, I think she was on the rebound when she married me. My divorced was finalized in 2008 and I filed at the Vermont service center on 08/06/09 as divorced filing separately. I did not have much in the way of joint evidence as the marriage was very short. I did have a police report, as I had called the police because she would not let in to her home to collect my belonging. I made several attempts through a marriage councilor for her to discuss her reasons for kicking me out, she did not respond and never attempted to either compromise or save the marriage. I got 2 affidavits from neighbors who had seen me living with my wife for the 3 months that I was with her. I also had photos of the wedding and also more affidavits from people that attended the wedding. I was approved based on this evidence without interview. I think they look at the intention at the time of marriage. Also since I was kicked out of her home I supported my self on my own income and provided evidence of lease, bank statements, utility bills, tax returns etc in my name only that shows that I able to support my self and I think this helps in getting approved. I was approved on 12/03/09.



benty

i-751 denied…now what????



adel

ralph
your in trouble dude.. try to hire a lawyer to go with you to the interview



ralph

chonz

we filed jintly..we both sign toghter….i think i hve to refill again and cancel to interview..to trynna fill waiver.i dnt know if i can go in the interview by myself..



chonz

ralph,

who filed for the divorce? you or her? if it’s her then you have a chance to depend yourself. Like what Tony’s divorce said he filed forms that he can support himself. I think that is one of the primary reasons why they approved immigrants if you can show them that you can stand on your own and won’t be a liability to US. gather all the documents you have while you were with her and try to show pictures showing that your intentions were to be with her when you married her and something happened along the way.



tony's divorce and i-751

Hi Ralp

This is Tony

If you filed jointly with your wife and you are scheduled for an interview then it is a legal requirement that the wife must attend the interview with you. If she does not attend and you go alone then you will be denied based on the fact the you applied jointly with your wife. All this may seem really confusing, but the USCIS must follow the law and the requirements in the statutes. As you are contemplating a divorce and there is no possibility of reconciliation with your wife then one option would be to officially withdraw the joint I-751 petition that you filed with your wife as this was a joint petition and as you are no longer with your wife, so the joint aspect no longer applies. You may depending on how far your divorce proceeding have progressed, file a waiver petition once your divorce is finalized, the timing is crucial as you want to have legal status, so simply withdrawing your petition would not be a wise thing to do if your divorce is not going to be finalized for many months. You can always reschedule the interview by providing a written explanation giving a valid reason why you can’t attend the interview at this time. Again the timing of the divorce and the I-751 waiver is the most important aspect. According to a recent memo at the USCIS website you may finalize your divorce within 87 days and then re-file a new I-751 petition as a waiver married in good faith. Many I-751 applicants in either divorce and separation petitions are denied based upon the legality of the laws rather the applicants actions. You must therefore, satisfactorily establish the legal aspects by complying to the requirements of the law and also the requirements for the marriage. To prove that a marriage was genuine the USCIS looks for the intention of a married couple from the time of marriage to the present time, if still married. So the time before marriage also counts i.e. dating, living together etc…all shows that you had the intentions of living with your wife and did not simply marry her so that you can have a green card. The burden of proof is on you to show your intentions so everything that you did together is proof of a life together with your wife. Sometimes many people don’t realize that they have so many documents that proves that your intention was to be married for the right reason. Here are some examples, photos of the wedding, honeymoon trip, any gifts that you bought for her either before, or after marriage, people who have seen you together etc…I was only married for 3 months had no joint documents but I showed that my intentions was that I wanted my marriage to work but unfortunately it did not. The USCIS can only deny you if they find proof that you married for a green card or that that you application is not valid as applicable to the law. Please see if you can get a consultation with a pro bono lawyer before you make the next decision. I wish you the best for the future.



tony's divorce and i-751

Hi Benty,

Why was your I-751 DENIED?



tony's divorce and i-751

Hi Ralph

It’s Tony again…

I did some research for you and I have provided a link to the USCIS website that contains the new requirements for I-751 applicants in divorce proceedings. If a Petition is filed that seeks a divorce waiver, but a final decree of divorce hasn’t been made yet, USCIS has instructed its officers to issue a Request for Evidence (RFE) with a response period of 87 days. The idea behind the 87 day response period is to allow the conditional resident time to finalize a divorce if divorce proceedings have already been initiated. If a final order of divorce has not been obtained in this period, the conditional residence of the immigrant is terminated, and the case may be set for deportation proceedings. Even during deportation proceedings, if the immigrant is able to finalize a divorce, the I-751 Petition will be adjudicated on its merits.

The other option available to conditional residents in divorce proceedings is simply to wait to file the I-751 Petition until a final order of divorce has been made. USCIS will generally excuse late filing if it can be proven that divorce proceedings were ongoing at the time that conditional residence was filed with the USCIS.

Ralph please type the link below to the memo at the USCIS website that will give you the exact details

http://www.uscis.gov/files/nativedocuments/i-751_Filed_%20Prior_Termination_3apr09.pdf

Immigration law is very complicated and if you don’t take the right actions at the right time you could become out of status or in the worse case scenario if your application is denied then you are not allowed to work or travel. Also it can take a long time before a case goes in front of a judge usually a year or more 18months is normal. Also if you case is denied you have the right to file either a motion to reconsider or a motion to open, these often have very limited time of 30 days in which to summit additional evidence in order for a continuance of your case. There is no appeal of a denied I-751 case, and the USCIS will have to prove to the judge that they followed the law. Immigration lawyers are expensive but all the laws and requirements are at the USCIS website and this is great…but you need to use the law to your advantage and this can be a little tricky as there so much stuff there usually written in legal jargon. Please let me know which state you are in and I will try to find a pro bono lawyer for you. The USCIS website also provides guidance on this matter.



ralph

thnk you tony and chonz.

all the information u gave me are really good…but the divorce is not final yet…she filled it since september….i wonderingeven she says yes she will go with me in the interview if the immigration officer will knows about the divorce….and she has kid for her man..thts why we broke up..bc she sheated..so whts goin to happen if they find out that……or if i can cancel the interview and refill with the waiver.



ralph

tony and chonz…..

i didnt receive the interview letter yet…last monthi called and they did a service request…..i receive and answer in 8 days saying that i hve a interview on febuary….but it didnt say anything about time and what to bring at the interview so i think the true interview letter will come soon…….do u think they will send me an aproval letter..wht u think guys



tony's divorce and i-751

Hi Ralph,

I think you have an excellent case if your wife had a child with another man whilst still married to you. In these types of divorce cases the final divorce decree is usually granted if one of the spouses does not contest the divorce. Ralph you need to be certain that you have the right grounds for the divorce and again you must get a divorce on the grounds of adultery. If your wife has filed on any other grounds then this may cause problems in your I-751 case as any other grounds requires a fault basis. Also even if the child is born by another man you may have to pay child and spousal support if the divorce judge determines that your income is sufficient to fulfilling the standard of living of your wife. Please be careful how you get divorced as this can have a bigger impact on your future than the I-751 case.

I would not recommend going with the wife to the interview if the divorce proceeding has already commenced as this is a ground for committing marriage fraud. Remember that the whole purpose of the joint filing of the I-751 is to prove that you have a legitimate and viable marriage. If you go with the wife and the immigration officer determines that you have initiated divorce then your marriage is no longer viable and is a ground for denying the I-751. Also you could then face deportation and a possible bar from re-entering the USA on any other grounds. It is best to be honest and inform the USCIS if you are going through a divorce, but only do this when the time is right. This will certainly help your case not damage it!!!!

This what I would suggest that you do……get your own lawyer and only sign the divorce papers if the grounds for divorce are adultery. Inform the USCIS once the correct paper work has been filed by your divorce lawyer. Once you have the divorce decree, withdraw your original joint I-751 at the same time as you submit the new I-751 waiver ‘good faith’ filing separately. This will ensure that your legal status is maintained throughout the divorce proceedings. Then gather all the evidence that you have and send this to the USCIS. If they then call you for an interview you can claim that you married in good faith but your wife cheated and had an illegitimate child with another man and that you divorced on the grounds that the wife committed adultery. You can also show that you tried to make your marriage work i.e., lease, bank statements, affidavits etc…when you were married and living together. This may take some time but it should get approved as long as you follow the law. Remember it is the legality that is the most important aspect.



ralph

tony…
thk you my friend..
my wife do the devorce she did nt mention she chetead she put aabandonment she lied about it……do u think i should go to the court and against it….i received the papper since october….wht should i do



Sunny

Hi Ralph,

I am sure your wife will not file for divorce on the ground that SHE committed adultery. She will probably have filed on some other ground(s). What you should do is to cross-filed for divorce on the ground that she committed adultery and include evidence that she had a child by another man. That way the divorce will not be your fault. It is good to talk to a lawyer in this situation so that he can advise you on what to do. Look around for a lawyer with free consultation. If have to cross-file the clerks at the court will probably be able to help you with the necessary papers.



ralph

thk you sunny ..

i contacted a lwayer he told me to go to the court and file a form affirmative defence just to let them know that she commited adultery and hve kids(she has twins)…so i could get that divorce papper and file i 751 waiver…..i will cancel the interview….and file for it…is goin to be in febuary.



ralph

lawyer



ralph

guys…im trynna file the i 751 form by myself but im waitin for the interview letter first..bc i think ishould cancel it…and refill the i 751 with waiver…so guy what is a waiver..is that a form or is a notorize letter to explain everything……and how to get the affidavits sworm..is that a form also or a notaurize papper…….i dnt hve money to hire a lawyer please respons…



tony's divorce and i-751

Hi Ralph,

It seems your case is very complex as your wife is trying to get a divorce due to abandonment and this may have legal consequences for the I-751.

Abandonment means one spouse leaving the marital home without consent. This action is deemed as grounds for divorce in some states or provinces. The length of time of the abandonment varies from state to state. Your family lawyer will know the law in your state. If you left your wife after knowing that she was cheating on you and the length of marriage was not long then it will be very difficult to prove to the USCIS that it was a bona fide marriage as in the divorce papers she is claiming that you left the matrimonial home.

If your wife gets a divorce based on abandonment then the USCIS will most likely terminate your conditional residence as they will claim that you left the matrimonial home and did not have the intention to live with her i.e. you abandoned her. The fact that she cheated and had children could become irrelevant and difficult to prove as a justifiable reason for a good faith marriage if you left her, unless you can show from the outset that you had to leave because she cheated and that this was unacceptable for you and therefore, you were compelled to leaving her. You must also show what you did after leaving her i.e. file for divorce, contacted family member, family councilor etc, or did you just wait and took no action, as she can claim that she started seeing someone else after you left her and she had children after you left the matrimonial home.

Remember for a good faith marriage you must show that your intention was to establish a life together as husband and wife, it is almost impossible to prove this unless you have proof of your action before, during and after you left your wife. Can anyone corroborate that they saw you living together during the time you were married? How long where you married before she cheated and you left? You mentioned that the divorce papers were served on you in September and that she lied on those papers. What action did you take since September to sort this out? If you have already signed the divorce papers then you must contact a family lawyer who will be able to advice you on how to reverse this process depending on the circumstances surrounding your case. Also why didn’t you after leaving your wife file for divorce straight away? You said that she cheated and therefore, you must have known that the marriage had ended then what actions did you take after knowing this? These are types of questions that the USCIS will also be looking to ask you.

Ralph you need to hire a lawyer who will be able to guide you through this process, you can’t simply get conditions removed if you don’t have the proof surrounding the circumstances of your marriage, divorce or separation. I know lawyers are expensive but what choice do you have if you want to remain in the US. I wish you the best for the future but you need legal representation from a good family lawyer for the divorce and an immigration lawyer that knows about I-751 cases to get this sorted out.



David

My i-751 was apporved. i filied waiver when my divorce come thru and went for interview with my lawyer. I had good doc of joint relationship.

my timeline

08/24/09 i-751 sent to California
08/28/09 NAO/12 month extension
09/17/09 early bio
10/09/09 interview letter
11/11/09 interview date, went with my lawyer
11/26/09 approval letter
12/07/09 got 10 year green card in mail

from time i751 sent ot uscis to green card 105 day. approx 3.5 moths

good luck to all on this forum



ralph

tony…..

i did not take any action because she said she s goin to help me with my greencard…and after she said she dont wanna wait and filed for divorce…i broke up with her when i found out she cheatng on me…..



ralph

tony…

i aint recieve the interview letter yet…i called uscis for a service request because is been 6 months i didnt receive anything in the mail and in 8 days i receive a rsponse sayin that i hve an interview..it didnt say nothing about where..time..and wht to bring….do u think they just imagine i should have interview…and the letter did not come from vermont service center..it come from my local office….do u think they probably mistakin…..wht u think.



ralph

tony…

when i put my case number on uscis.gov
it say innitial review…when i call they say pending…why they didnt upgrade it if they sent me the respons of the service request…..wht u think



tony's divorce and i-751

Hi Ralph,

Ralph I have some question for you….I hope you can answer them and I will then try to see what would be the best solution, Ralph with good documentation your I-751 should have been approved by now. I think most I-751 cases are completed, even the divorce ones within 6 months now, so I’m surprised that yours is taking so long. See the recent posting by David his was a divorce case and was approved in 3.5 months

What is your time line from the time you met your wife to the time your wife wanted the divorce? How long were you married? Where did you live? Do you have any joint documents and for what length of time? What types of documents do you have? When did you send in your I-751 form and was this before, during or after the divorce was initiated by your wife?

You said that your wife was going to help you get a green card but she cheated and so you left her, then how can you believe that she will be willing to help you now? You also said that she lied about the divorce and she filed for divorce due to abandonment and this will hurt your case, if you are still in contact with her and she is willing then try to change this to adultery if possible or some other grounds but not abandonment. I am certain that if the divorce decree is granted for abandonment then you will most likely have you case denied and face deportation proceeding.

Your service request at the USCIS generates a standard letter that says that you are due to be schedule for an interview in February 2010. You will receive another letter from the local USCIS office with the exact location, date, time and the documents that you need to take for this interview, also if you filed jointly then your wife must also go with you to the interview. If your wife has already initiated divorce proceeding and she goes with you to the interview to help you get a green card then this is marriage fraud as you do not have the intention of living together as a married couple i.e. your marriage has ended. If you go alone then it will also be denied if filed jointly as one of the requirements is for the wife to accompany you on a joint I-751 petition.

Again I would strongly advice you to seek legal counsel and prepare your case with a competent immigration lawyer.



susan

My case approved today…….i’m so happy:)
vermont service center is moving fast..now
sent i-751 on 10-09-09, noa 15-09-09, fp19-10-09, approval letter today 10-12-09.

Good luck to all…

US citizen due date 23-03-2010



susan

joint i751



Benty

Tony

I-751 was denied due to lack of evidence. I filed waiver and had divorce decree finalzed. immigartion officer told me i would get decision in mail he take my conditional green card at interview. in letter it say you fail to establsih your burdun of prof and then say upon invstigation they find I not living with husband and say it is marriage fraud.

waht can I do now. i don’t want to be deported

can I marry again and refile. i want to stay in us waht is solution for mu case.



ralph

i have been with my wife for 2 years and 2 months…

i sent my i 751 to vermont service center
may09..sent my i 751 on may 20..2009
-may 28 received extension
-june 17 fingerprint completed
since that i never heard anything
until i called them for the request after 6 months…………………

question, my mom is a us citizen if she fill for me how long is goin to take im over 21



ralph

tony..

do u think when i recieve the interview letter ishould cancel it and explain why i cant come with my wife and by the time refill for a i 751 with waiver….and send documents..but my final divorce decree will be end on april bc she filled for it in september 2009..wht u think can i cancel it and refill a i 751 with waiver….



Sara

Hi guys,
Reading these comments has been really helpful!
I was wondering, should I bother to submit documents (with both our names on them) that have a different address on them than our documented mailing address? An example would be, our cell phone bill still bears my husband’s parent’s address. We pay online and never remembered to change it…and doing it now looks strange. Will submitting this cause more problems than it’s worth? Thanks for the advice!



Branko

Hi I’m filing to remove the 2 year condition to my green card and you guys seem to know what you are doing… So this is my question to you do I have to send all pages of my lease and phone bills and bank statements or is it OK to just send the first 2 pages with my name and my wife’s name to show that we live together

Thanks for any help

Branko



lillytote

i-751 approved from Vermont.

My time line

married 02/07
CR 05/07
applied jointly i-751 04/09, was legally separated but not divorced
divorce final 06/09
sent new i-751 07/09 divorced waiver based, filing separately.
approved without interview 11/09
10 year card received 12/04/09

This is the best Christmas gift ever :)

I am now taking Christmas vacation to Bahamas with my new 10 year green card

I love the USA…God Bless America

all that are applying as divorced make sure you only send i-751 divorced application when your divorce is final. my case took 7 months for approval because I had to refile as divorced when my divorce was final.

Good luck to you all..and a very merry Christmas!!!!!!



janet

Hi lillytote

my case was also approved from vermont as divorced case. my total time was only 4 month. vermont is processing very quick even divorce caes. Only cases they are going to deny take more than 6 months.

I know of one person that was arrested and deported from detention center in New York it was divorce case but he did not have much evidence of marrige. most caes are apporved in less than 6 months. you only need to worry if your’s is taking more than 6 months for final decision.



tomtom

i know of many i-751 cases denied if taking more than 6 months. if your case longer than 6 month then 100% chance it is going to be denied



BENTY

my case take 9 month and was denied. i am now leaving usa voluntarily so that i can come back to usa someday. i really love living here, it is great country but i already got my deportation papers. I not living with my husband and the US immigration find this out by spying on me and asking my neighbor and looking at public records. My lawyer tell me leave now and say to me to come back with visitor visa and marry again so that I can live in usa.



wetone

can you file again for i-751 if denied?



beauty and the beast

case approved in california service center
divorce based i751 good faith marriage.
married for only 2months in november 2008. divorce final in september 2009. you can file before 2 years if you are divorced.
all paper work done by lawyer
i751 10-19-09 filied waiver good faith
noa 10-23-09
fp 11-06-09
approval without interview 11-25-09
10 year green card 12-08-09

total time 51 days

happy hoildays to all and good luck.

you just need evidence that you married in good faith to get approved. its that easy…will be filing for citizenship after 5 years of residency instead of 3 years.



dolly

i-751 denied because i no have joint evidence also short marriage just 3 weeks. can someone help me. i am divorced now but my i-751 is already denied after 9 months of waiting. i like usa and want to stay here. i need help to stay in usa. what advice you have for me. immigration did not believe me as they check up on me and find i out i was lying to them. i only lying because i want to stay in usa and not go back to thailand. not know is wrong that I lie. i say sorry to immigation officer but he not care for me, that i am female. i not know that immigration check eveyone. can i marry some usa citizen to stay in usa. can this plan work in my case. can i go in hiding a wait for immigration reform for illegal. what do think is best for girl like me



Sunny

My Timeline (Vermont Service Center)

Two-year GC will expire on 01/29/2010

Mailed I-751 on 11/10 (Married, filing jointly)

NOA and One-year extension – 11/20

Biometrics Letter – 12/12 (Appointment scheduled for 12/31)

Will keep you posted.



adel

BENTY

where are you from.. dont leave you can always live and no one can find about you!! there is thousands of illegal people in usa
and you still can hire a lawyer and fight to be staying the in u s and a :)



ralph

im goin to cancel the interview and wait for the divorce papper to filei-751 waiver….bc i already filled jointly.



tony's divorce and i-751

Hi Ralph,

I just got back from Toronto and will be traveling again to Bermuda this Sunday to celebrate Christmas until 01/14/2010.

Ralph do not cancel your appointment!!!!!

1. If you cancel your appointment without good cause then your I-751 will be treated as abandoned and denied.

2. You must reschedule your appointment using info pass and also inform your local USCIS office by mail that you are in the process for divorce proceedings which will be finalized within the 87 day timeframe. You must also state that this is accorded to you without affect under the recent memo issued by the USCIS.

3. Once the divorce is completed then attend the interview with a lawyer.

I wish you the best of luck Ralph



wilson

That’s right Ralph

if you cancel you get denied and then deportation.

tony you know so much about immigartion issues are a lawyer?



tony's divorce and i-751

I’m not a immigration lawyer. I’m a senior finacial director for Citi Group working in New York. My girl friend a US citizen is a immigartion Lawyer. We are engaged and planning to get married in July 2010. I already have the 10 year green card so I will apply for US citizenship in 2012.



queen

i-751 denied at vermont.

in letter it says denied for cause – failed to establsih bono fides of marriage. and also that this my 4th application for i-751 after 3 divorcees to us citizen in 6 years and 4th marrige to us citizen not legit. you marry only to circumvent immgaration laws.

what can I do now?
I want to stay in US because I get alimony from previous marriage and I don’t want to work. or leave usa.



ralph

ok tony …

u are right im waiting for the interview letter to come in the mail..but still not recieve it yet.
once i recive it wht to do re-fill i 751 waiver…..tell me what to do…remember we filled jointly and she s not goin with me…so refill the i 751 with waiver…just let me know….



ralph

tony
if i hire ur gf how much she goin to charge can she handle my case bc u said shes a immigration lawyer..i live in new york



raffik

hi guys me and my wife meet in amman jordan and we got married on the islamic way at shiekh and then she travel to usa and she filed me .. i got my 10 years card 1 year ago and now we having problems i feel i have to file for divorce..how can i do that should i go to lawyer or i just go to shiekh and do it? thanks



raffik

hello anyone can help me out iam still waiting..



Muhammad

Hello Raffik

I am not an Islamic Scholar so the advice given here is general and you would need to contact your local Islamic Society or Council to find out exactly how you would be able to Divorce.

Firstly, in the USA any marriage that is recognized officially abroad in any foreign country according to the customs, traditions, culture, and religion is also recognized in the USA as a legitimate and bona fide marriage.

If you are a permanent resident of the USA and are living here then you may only divorce according to the divorce statute as applicable in your state. There are several grounds for divorce that may be applicable to your particular circumstances and you would need to discuss this with a divorce or family attorney.

As far as the Islamic divorce is concerned, this is not recognized in the USA however, as a Muslim it is still your responsibility to seek the proper actions in divorcing your wife. You mentioned that you are not getting along with you wife so it may still be possible to perhaps seek mediation with family or a marriage councilor to resolve the differences and save the marriage. The first duty of the husband in Islam is to save the marriage if possible; divorce in Islam is always the last option.

If however, you do decided that divorce is the only option left once you have exhausted all other ways in which to reconcile and save the marriage you would then need to consult a divorce or family attorney to discuss your options and the grounds for the divorce. This would then be the official and recognized divorce in the USA if you decide to remarry in the USA. Also it is a crime in the USA to be in a polygamous marriage i.e. having more than one wife at the same time. So you must officially divorce before you remarry.

On the Islamic aspect, regardless of how and when you divorce officially in the USA, you must as a Muslim also release your wife from the matrimonial bond according to Islam. You would then need to pronounce Talak 3 times over a course of 3 months and your wife would need to remain in a state of Iddat for at least 40 days before she is completely free of the Islamic matrimonial union. You must also give back to her all her personal processions including any gifts and property that you gave her at the time you married. You must leave her in state of financial and emotional comfort that she has been accustomed to during the marriage. This means that you have to give her the Maher that solemnized the marriage in Jordan. You must also not in anyway ostracize her reasonable demands upon you, remember that in Islam the women always has more rights than a man in divorce as for the man it is relatively easier to remarry than for a women therefore, she has more rights. You must accept her reasonable demand upon you and must in not any way slander her or reveal any personal matters which you have gained knowledge about her over the course of your marriage.

Contrary to what most western societies view of Islam due the recent tends and turmoil caused by very extremist views of some scholars. You as a Muslim must uphold the true spirit of Islam and work towards resolving your matrimonial union amicably. Remember your wife is someone’s daughter, sister and may even be a mother to your children, so adhere to the laws as written in the Quran for you will have to account for your actions on the day of judgment.

I hope you follow the correct path of righteousness………………..



wendy

My i-751 approved @ vermont

divroced filing waiver

i-751 sent 09/09
bio 10/09
approved 12/09

it take only 4 month for approval.



Meng

My i-751 was approved, I used my husband last name, now that I filed divorce I want to go back to my maiden name. Will it take long? anybody like this situation ?



Sunny

Mohammad



Sunny

Muhammad,

Thank you so much for your post. It shows how little we understand about Islam. Although I am a Christian I always appreciate any opportunity to learn about other religions/cultures. The media cannot provide such education because they themselves know so little.



Mark

ralph



Raya

Hi everyone! I am about to file I-751 jointly with my husband who is a US citizen. I just noticed that in the top right corner of the form it says that it expires 12/31/2009 – does anyone have an idea if the form would be accepted that way? I don’t think that there is a new form yet available… And one more question – where do you have to go for biometrics? We live in Maine.
Thank you in advance!



Raya

I meant to write that the form expires 10/31/09 :o)



Bill

There is a note on the USCIS I-751 webpage that states they are accepting the outdated I-751 form…print the web page and send it with your I-751 packet..



Raya

Thank you!



Mark

any ideas about K1 fiance visa pleasE?



Detroiter

I Filed my I 751 to California Center At December 10, 2009
the application received on december 13,
NOA extesion for one year was dated December 14, 2009. I still Did not recieve the Biometrics appointemnt, I don’t know what to do, shall I call the USCIS? or I am in good shape !!!!



lina

I am really worried about my case, i filed my i 751 in California on September 15th 09, did my FP on October 23th, and since that I have not received anything, my case is still in initial review. 2 friends filed the petition in November , also here in California and they already received the GC, is it that normal??? is something happening with my petition???



T-1

DETROITER:
It is probably normal for the delay in your case because of the Christmas/New Year/MLK holidays. If I were you, I will probably wait for another two weeks. If you still get nothing from the USCIS, then call them at this number 1.800.375.5283 to talk to a representative.
T-1



T-1

Lina,
please provide more specific information of your application. You probably should contact the USCIS at this point in any case.

T-1



Jackyline Mitchell

Hi my name is Jackyline, I have filed my I-751 on september 2009. My husband and I were in divorce proceedings at that time. We were separated and had my own place. So I had chosen the option that the marriage enter in good faith and later on was terminated or annuled. Somehow, he passed away on November 2009 from a Lou Gehrig’s disease. January 12, 2010. I received the I-797 form stating that the USCIS requesting for a divorce decree. There was no divorce happened and I have the dismissal order from the court. What do I do? I have his death certificate. Can I do an ammendment from my I-751 petition or write a letter to them of what happened? They have given me until April 6, 2010 to respond..



Detroiter

Hi Guys I live in Detroit, I sent out my I 751 application and all my document to California Service :
December 10: I sent the I 751 By USP
December 20: I recived NOA extension for one year dated December 14, 2009.
Jaunary 19: I recived the Biometrics shceduled on February 08, 2010.
please if every body share his/her experience , …I will keep you posted guys.
Take Care. Thanks for All



Copi

Hi Everyone!

I’ve been reading the experiences of some of you that have been shared for the past years. Congratulations to all of you who have successfully completed this process.

Here is our timeline:
• 01/20/2010: Mailed I-751 with supporting information
• 01/21/2010: Received at California Service Center (CSC), Laguna Niguel, CA

______________________
information submitted
______________________

• Form I-751
• Check for $545 ($465 for form I-751 and $80 for biometric services)
• Copy of Permanent Resident card

II. EVIDENCE OF THE RELATIONSHIP
Note: number correspond to the form instructions for the information that needs to be submitted.

1. Birth certificate of our child born last year.

2. Lease contract of our apartment showing joint occupancy. Additionally, we included copies of our driver’s licenses showing the same address for both of us.

3. Financial records showing joint ownership:

3.A: Joint savings and checking accounts. Additionally, we included a copy of the check used to pay for this form that includes both of our names.

3.B: Credit card statements showing both of our names and account number, and joint activity.

3.C: Joint federal and state tax returns for the past two years (2007 & 2008).

4. Other supporting documentation to demonstrate that our marriage was entered in bona fide and includes both of our names:

4.A: Receipt of our wedding reception expense

4.B: Car registrations and insurance policies

4.C: 401K beneficiaries list showing my spouse as the primary beneficiary.

4.D: Company health benefits 2010 enrollment showing our names, including our son.

4.E: Our son’s birth announcement that we mailed to our family and friends.

4.F: Itineraries copies for trip to visit family in friends in 2008, and May and December 2009.

4.G: Costco card renewal membership showing both of us as members in the same account.

4.H: Sample of correspondence addressed to us from businesses.

4.I: Photos Album of events since our wedding with family and friends. (Note: approximately 100 photos organized by events.)

5. Three affidavits affirmed by friends

Now, we will just wait as our case move forward through this process.

Have a nice day!

-Copi



Thida

Hi Raya the top right say the expiration date because this form will be no longer used after this. the funny thing happen to me the old one i was already filled the form with my hand writing while I getting all the relationship proof documents,I made a mistake and could not use a wipe out so i went online wanting to print out the new form but they just release a new form with expiration dated 12/31/2010. This one you can not fill the form with your hand writing anymore, only be done by computer pdf format then print out and you will have your data with them online

And where to go get fingerprint is up to them which will be mail right after you receive I-797C or the Notice of receipt number. I don’t live in Main so sorry can’t tell you where but you will be told where by them. if you are afraid will be too far from your house,no it won’t. They will find the closest office for you.
Good luck



marco

hello everyone,
I ve been a silent user of the information in this website. I admire all the solidarity and help every single person shows through this beneficial portal.
I am filing my I-757 this month via Vermont and I was wondering if there is anything I need to know about besides the common sense things like the evidences and proofs.
I also want to ask anyone of you about how do you approach the way of presenting the documentation and how it should be packaged? Do you have to put in in a folder, binder, or any other suggestions?
I appreciate your help in advance,
Thank you.
Marco



SAL

My I-751 timeline:

12/05/09 – mailed the application and supporting documents;
12/09/09 – receipt; check cleared bank; notice of 1-year extension;
1/07/10 – fingerprinted;
1/19/10 – email notification of card production;
1/25/10 – receipt of new 10-year GC.

Entire process from receipt to approval took 41 days or about 6 weeks. Good luck to everyone!



Copi

Here is an update on my petition. We sent our form 2 weeks before the 90 day anniversary. Yesterday we received our package back from USCIS with a message indicating that it was returned because it was early. They might not have a backlog anymore. Anyway, I wanted to share that with you so it doesn’t happen to you. We’ll send the package again on Feb 8th.

Thanks!

-Copi



Copi

SAL – Congratulations! That was quick! Did you file in California or Vermont?

Thanks!

-Copi



Copi

Marco,

you can see what information we submitted above. What we did was to have a summarized list of everything we were mailing as part of our cover letter. Then, we put a divider/cover page for each section (I thru 5) and stapled that information per section. For the photos we glue them to regular paper. Make sure they are not loose because that could annoy them. You want to make it easy for them to go over your documentation. In terms of mailing it, we sent it via USPS overnight service. You can find those envelopes at any post office. You don’t need to put it in a binder because when they receive, they immediate use a two-hole puncher and keep all documents together in a big pile. We had sent our photos in a plastic folder. They probably threw that away. The package they sent it back it already hole punched. We will just need to ship it back.

Hope that helps!

-Copi



Copi

Raya,

there is an updated form on the USCIS website. You should see this date on their upper right corner:
OMB No. 1615-0038; Expires 12/31/2010

Hope that helps!

-Copi



Copi

Jackyline Mtchell,

it might be better if you just call them and ask them what you should do in case. Sending another form might be returned because there is one already that is actively being reviewed. They might ask you to submit both the court dismissal and the death certificate as part of the evidence they want to see before April 6th. However, you will not know until you call them.

Another option would be for you to consult with an immigration lawyer. According to the instructions, you can file an I-751 with a waiver even if the case of death of your spouse. However, you might not qualified for that criteria given that you were already in the process of getting divorced. So, it seems to me that you need to show the court dismissal. The instructions state “submit a copy of the divorce decree or other document terminating or annulling the marriage with your petition”.

Hope that helps.

-Copi



marco

Hello Copi,

I appreciate your help and thank you in the name of everyone who is reading silently without intervention.
you are really helping people with your comments and advice and may god help you with any kind of hardship or uneasiness.
Thank you for keeping us informed.
Marco



Jackyline Mitchell

Hello Copi,

I really appreciate your help. I mailed the court dismissal order together with my husband’s death certificate. I called the USCIS also of what should I do. I also sent more documentation that the marriage was entered in good faith in addition to the documents I submitted and USCIS already have. They received the packet on Jan. 23, 2010. Hopefully everything works out for the best.

Jacky (Jackyline Mitchell)



Jerry Napitupulu

Hello.
This forum very helpful. Thank you all for sharing. Over all, now i am worried about my status after knowing ain’t as simple at it looks. So please respond if you have any advice toward my situation. We married January 16th ’06 (I am foreigner & My wife US Citizen). The Immigration Judge granted our case on December 2007. We hired the lawyer then as the judge advice us to do so when we went the first time to meet the judge. When the judge approved the case he even congratulated us and advice us to say thank you to the lawyer who took a good care of our case (oh yes, after paying him thousands of dollars to file the paper work:) ). I thought the deal is done as the lawyer said we just wait for the green card which i never received for over 2 years.
I went to the field office (Norfolk,VA) 4 times a year to check and asked what’s going on. The officer play with his/her computer and said my case still in process (anyone have an idea what case really in process since the Judge already granted/sign it?). They give a stamp on my passport saying that’s equal to Green card (Is this stamp really legit for me to carry as legal document?)
My 2 years anniversary expired on dec 13 ’09 if they counted from the day it approved. I went on October to the field office they just said my case still in process and wait…He never mention about I-751.
On Jan 5th i decided to email the help line and one of the officer replied my email and even called me. There she gave me an advice to file I-751 which i never heard before (i thought our lawyer file everything for us).
I sent my I-751 form on Jan10th. I didn’t know if affidavit is necessary. We used personal check as a method payment which haven’t cash yet. From friends experience of this forum seem this affidavit and pictures is important. What do you guys think if i send another set of documents with more complete evidence and put another check/cashier check in it? Do i have to cancel the first check we already sent?
I took a biometric once after the judge granted, and the last stamp on my passport won’t expire until oct’10.
With me basically file this I-751 late is that mean i’m in trouble? Thank you for reading and God bless.
Jerry



Jerry Napitupulu

I forgot to mention we sent the file to Vermont Office, we live in Virginia. Btw can we send the file to different office (California) even though that a different region? Thank again.



Thida

Jerry
Wow,you are lucky! You don’t have a green card after 2 years of marriage! and you didn’t file for adjustment of status! Lucky you.
Here is a simple process for people who are American finance or spouse,I’ll give you my example through out the process until I’ll file for US citizenship.
After you came here with spouse or fiance visa you have to file for adjustment of status or 2 years green card or green card with condition.
And within 90 days before 2 years green car will expire on the card you have to file for I-751 or remove the condition of petition.I don’t say 90 days of anniversaries like they said on the instruction because I’m going to cerebrate 3 years on March. It only matter on the date on green card.

Here my case
Jan 11 2010 Mail a package which has enclosing the following:

• Application fee – $ 545
• Form I-751
• Copy of Permanent Resident Card
• Copy of birth certificate and translation (mine)
• Copy of passport
• Copy of Thai National I.D.
• Copy of New York State driver license
• Copy of Social Security Card
• Copy of Certificate of Marriage Registration
• Copy of Certificates of children born to the marriage(we have 2 kids in 2 years)
• Copy of life insurance policy and beneficiary (My husband with me become a 100 % beneficiary)
• Copy of cars insurance with ours name
• Copy of US tax return for the year 2008
• Copy of ours joint bank account
• A n affidavits sworn from 2 people(my mother in law and her sister)
• A photo album showing some important moments ( I sent in 1 album having 80 pictures because this 2 years he had so many things going on and I like to take a pictures too)

Jan 16 2010 Check cleared
Jan 19 2010 Received I 797 NOA receipt number and extension

Now I’m waiting for a letter for scheduling for Biometric.

And you can’t file for California service because you live in VA,they separate to work unless they transfer your case to CA center. My adjustment was transfered to CA.
will keep you post



Jerry Napitupulu

Thank you THIDA,
I am not sure if i am lucky but i know now that i am living in a shadow just because without really clear proper documents (GC), but without doubt live our happily married life and unfortunately i have to prove it to the USCIS with many many evidences .
Seem it better to resend another application I-751 and make sure have enough support documents. I am a cross country truck driver and so often i went thru INS check point in southern state (Nogales,AZ and El paso,TX) and i always use this passport with the stamp on it from USCIS and i always cleared. I guess i am good until one day they will pick me up from home :) Peace to you all!
Jerry

ps. THIDA, I wish you best of luck and wish me the same :)



Jerry Napitupulu

After reading more comments out here, Unfortunately we know now why it seem we all screw up.
Guys, you know if you have a pony marriage or not, but please…if you do,don’t need to exposed it out here. Make others (US Citizen) don’t know anything about it now thinking we all married for GC. Hint “Can i married US Citizen so i can stay in this loving country?” LoL…Marry me, i let you stay in every country (without GC) lol. I love this country and i also love my country. But come to my family (wife and son)….the heck with countries. I am going to apply visa to Heaven. Anyone know how long it will take me LoL….Good luck to all of us :)

Jerry



Kate

I am a British citizen married to a US…does my husband need to get fingerprints as weel or just me? Thanks this info is SO very helpful.



marco

I haven’t got my 1 year extension yet but I am worried about the possibility of leaving the country with only that paper and a stamp, would that work?
am I gonna be able to pass through immigration with a paper and a stamp especially in this time after the security matters?
It would be helpful if you guys share your experience in this issue.



Shelby

Hi Guys

Just got my 10 year green card in mail today.

my timeline

12/08/2009 i-751 sent to Vermont
12/21/2009 finger prints completed
01/27/2010 green card approved
02/04/2010 10 year green card in mail today

Total processing time 57 days upto green card approval. We filed jointly with over 445 pages of evidence. The more info you send the quicker it is for approval. Also we sent complete documents.

Good luck to all



Maria Costa

My i-751 approved today

Divorce waiver, filing single

sent i-751 on 11/26/2009
approved today 02/05/2009.

I did not have much evidence as I was only married for 4 months. I sent copy of my divorce and good faith evidence at time of marriage, photos, honeymoon invoice, hotel invoice, letter from church that we married in. Did not have any joint documents because of short marriage.

I did not have interview they approved me based on just on documents listed above.



Jerry

KATE# I think the one need to take finger print is the one on petition (non-citizen) that’s for background check purposes i believe.
MARCO# I traveled with that stamp on my passport, but if you are not sure about it don’t go. If you really want to go i think you should bring your spouse.
SHELBY#
Congratulation, i have a question for you. I sent my application 3 weeks ago and the check not even cash out yet. Indeed i didn’t put 445 pages, probably only 45 (Tax the past 3 years filed together,copy of the ticket we used every time we went somewhere, married cert, our son birth certificate and etc but no affidavit nor picts) Do you think we should sent it one more time to make it more complete? Thank you for your input.
MARIA COSTA#
Do you know how long before they cash out your check for the fee? Congratulation to you.



Copi

Shelby and Maria Costa: Congratulations on getting your permanent green card!

Maria: where did you flie? Vermont or California?



Copi

Jerry:

if you filed by January 10th, you should have heard something by now or at least seen your check cleared. I would recommend before you send a new I-751 or additional information that you call USCI and ask them if your I-751 is being processed because you haven’t received a notification of acceptance (NOA) with a receipt number and 1-year extension while your case is processed.

As for the affidavits, it’s included in the instructions as an example of what you could send. We chose to send as much as we could from the examples they provided. You can see my posting on January 21st of what we submitted.

Keep us posted.

-Copi



Copi

Kate,

your US citizen does not need to get fingerprinted. This is only for the conditional permanent resident (i.e. applicant).

-Copi



Copi

Marco,

if the extend your conditional permanent residence for 1-year, the Notification of Action (NOA, form I-797) with your current conditional permanent card should be enough to show that you are legally living in this country. Some folks decide to go to an immigration center to get their passport stamps, but I’ve see that done when they haven’t received the NOA or when their 1-year extension is about to expire. If you are still in doubt, you might want to give them a call.

-Copi



Copi

Jerry,

I had made an error above referring to the NOA as
a notification of acceptance (NOA). It’s stands for Note of Action (form I-797). Just in case you decide to call USCIS.

-Copi



Copi

Jerry,

NOA stands for Notice of Action (I-797). I’m tired and I better go to sleep…

Goodnite everyone!

-Copi



Emily

I’m so happy that they approved my I-751 in 2 months. my timeline is:

filed jointly at Vermont service center

12/04/2009 i-751 sent with all evidence(380 pages)
12/07/2009 check cashed
12/10/2009 NOA received
12/14/2009 finger print appointment received
01/04/2010 finger print completed
01/29/2010 approval letter receveied
02/06/2010 10 year green card received

the more info you send the quicker it is, you have to prove your marriage and we send everything that was joint in both our names. we also sent it express mail with signature on delivery.

Good luck to all!!!



Joanne

My I-751 was denied from vermont servcice center.

I got letter to say it was denied because of lack of evidence. I sent my application with evidence in May 2009 and then got this blue letter saying they wanted more evidence July 2009. We sent more stuff that they requested but it was still denied. We are now planning to appeal in the next 30 days, but my case will be delayed in courts for upto 18 months as they is a very big back log of cases.

Anyone filing for i-751, please send your complete evidence from the start of you application, otherwise the officer looking at your file will just get pissed as they probably have so many flies that they have to work on and may deny your case. This happed to me and now I have no choice but to appeal and fight it out in the courts.

Good Luck to All..and God Bless you..All



Sonia Williams

Got approval for i-751 from vermont in January 2010. still waiting for 10 year green card it should be in the mail anytime now. I also sent almost 400 pages of marriage evidence and about 30 photos. My case was approved in about 45 days. I filied jointly in vermont service center. I agree that these days you have to send more evidence of your marrige and also you must send complete documents for example for bank statements we sent complete pages listing all transactions. Some people I think are getting delayed because they are just sending ramdom pages and not the complete set. The immigartion officer is probably thinking you are bot livining together if they can’t account for the missing time.

If you are married then you should have a ton of joint documents, the only expense to you is just the photocopying and mailing. A small price to pay to get a quick approval.

Remember in the i-751 instructions it says send all information from time of marriage to present time.

I hope this helps you guys.



anya petronanovo

my approval was in December 2009. just received my 10 year green card a few days ago. I sent my application to California sevice center. my case was apporved in about 9 weeks but my 10 year card took another 6 weeks. I also sent a big binder of evidence. I can’t remember how many pages, but it must have been almost 350-400. I spent alot of time getting the file neatly organized and also sent photos taken at different time during the past 2 years.

I have a friend who was also approved by sending a ton of documents. So the more evidence you send the quicker it is as the immigration officer looks at your evidence and if satisfied then approves it quickly. If some things are not complete or misssing then i think another officer needs to look at the file and this causes delays.

So like the other people who are apporved just send more stuff the first time round. get approved and move to the next hurdle of becoming a US Citizen.



Roger

My wife submitted the I-751form a few days ago. She’s going back to Taiwan next month for her sister’s wedding. She’s planning on staying for a month. Does anyone know if that will affect her application? I’m worried that the immigration would not look favorably on these.



mark

My case was denied and went to court for lack of evidence in November 2009. I waited almost 2 years before my case was scheduled for hearing. Also I couldn’t work or travel because as soon as i-751 was denied I was facing deportation. My conditional green card status was terminated. I got letter from USCIS for all this. In the end when my case did go in front of the judge it was not approved but the judge ordered the USCIS to re-examine my case. The only things missing from my marriage evidence was that I didn’t know that I had to send them complete sets. Otherwise it would have been approved long ago.

In the end it has now been almost 4 years since I sent the i-751 in 2006. The lawyers cost $17,000 for trial and it is still pending on the USCIS website.

I am expecting to get it approved sometime in the next 6 months god willing. Also since I was facing deportation my life came to a sudden stop, I could not do anything work or travel. The USCIS don’t have a heart and are not people, they are just machines following the letter of the law. They have no idea how much stress and heartache this causes a relationship.

My advice is just send them everything and check all your paperwork ten times before mailing it to them. Just one error or missing documents will lead to years of waiting.

God willing everything will work out for all of you and me.



Meng

tha’s why it is very important to hire a lawyer when filing 1-751 its worth it, to avoid confusions since they are expert on this rather than hiring when there is already a problem that would cost more.



JERRY

COPI#
Thanks for the input. I will call them up (vermont office). I will you guys posted. I think if the check is not cash out until now i can take conclusion that the case is not process isn’t it?
MARK#
Good luck to you man…i hope things will work out.
ROGER#
Is your wife the one US Citizen? I think should be no problem. My opinion, if you only have temp GC and travel alone out of the country will facing lot’s of hassle to get in to the country. Better of accompany with your US Citizen Spouse…just a thought.
TO ALL:
Congratulation to you all the one already processed and approved.
MENG#
Not everyone have money like others (your self) to pay for the lawyer (which usually cost couple thousands) especially with the economy it’s right now plus probably have their children need to feed while dealing with this immigration ordeal.



Ezara

i-751 denied

Got denial letter from vermont service center in January 2010.

It says case denied due to lack of evidence and late filing of i-751 petition.

I’m so worried, what can I do now? I came to the US from Brazil and have 1 child with my US husband born in the US. We are still married and living together. Also I’m expecting my 2nd child in March.

I don’t understand why they deny my case. I have been married for almost 3 years and we have all joint documents. I can’t appeal the denial but can only have it reviewed in front of a immigration judge. I hope this doesn’t take years as I have a very sick mother in Brazil that I want to see. USCIS has made my life Hell and now I am so depressed and with another child on the way I don’t know what to do.

Can anyone help me. Please share your experience and suggestions.

Thank you



vanessa

My case approved from vermont. I file as divorce. I send all evidence including divorce papers, they sent letter asking for photos during time I was married. I sent all photos by express mail. Then in just 10 days I got approval letter. Now waiting for 10 year card to come in mail.

Good luck to all that are in the process.



JERRY

EZARA#
I think at this time you better hire an attorney,unfortunately we all guilty until proved innocent in front of the law (seem to me they are the law). Since the immigration/judge will review your case, make sure you bring evidence as much as you can (some people said even 300-400 pages). That’s all i can tell you and wish you best of luck.
VANESSA#
Good luck to you.



Copi

Emily, Sonia, Anya, Vanessa: Congratulations on getting approved!

JoAnne, Mark, Ezara: When USCIS asked you for more evidence, did they indicate that it has to be complete sets or that you need to provide additional information to demonstrate that you were living together? I agree that when it’s denied, the best option is to hire a lawyer.

Jerry: did you send your package by certified mail? If not, it’s possible it was not delivered. In any case whether the case is approved or denied, they are pretty quick cashing the checks. Keep us posted what they tell you when you call.



Copi

Thanks for the advice of sending complete documents. However, we didn’t do that with all our documents. We decided to prepare our package as a timeline of events supported with photos. We’ll see if that strategy works, but for us was more important to show that we have been together for the past 2.5 years. We sent about 100 photos for almost 24 events (almost one per month) where we are with family, friends, and church events. Those events supported the other information we provided like joint financial accounts, income tax returns, car registrations, etc.. (You can see what we provided on my posting of Jan 21; I didn’t count the pages, but probably close to 150 pages). i think what is key is that when the reviewer is going through your information for him or her not to have any doubts about your marriage.

By the way, we resent our package on Monday and it was received yesterday. You might remember that I posted on January 25th that if you sent it before your the 90 days before your conditional permanent residency card expire, they are now returning it back with instructions to re-file within the 90-day period.

I’ll keep you posted.

Goodnite!

-Copi



Copi

I compiled this information for cases approved in the past couple of months so you can see it’s been taking about 1.5 to 2 months to get the I-751 approved. In some cases, I calculated the numbers of days by when it was sent, received, or check cleared)

Filing Jointly:
• Anya Petronanovo: 63 days (approved 12/x/09)
• Sal: 41 days (approved 1/25/10)
• Shelby: 57 days (rapproved 1/27/10)
• Emiiy: 56 days (approved:01/29/2010)
• Sonya Williams: 45 days (approved 1/x/10)

Filing with divorce waiver:
• Maria Costa: 68 days (approved 02/05/2010.
• Vanessa: 10? days (approved 2/9/10?)

Hope that helps gives an idea of how long it’s taking in 2010.



Copi

Vanessa: when did you file your I-751?

-Copi



JERRY

COPI#
No, i didn’t sent it via certified mail, that’s why i can’t track it down if the mail get there or not. Has been 4 weeks and the check hasn’t cash out yet. I am going to send another package with more evidences & will send it with certified mail. Do you have their number? Btw my license is from a different state where we lived the past 3 years. I kept my old account since i got in the states 10 years ago. We do have joint account, but we just use it as a saving account and bills paid from the account where the name ain’t joint (hers&mine), we just never consider we have separate financial thingy. Is this gonna be an issue or should not send them the statement from the separate name? (do u think statement will help saying we paid bills from either one?)I will keep it posted. Thanks.

Jerry



Copi

Jerry,

This is the number I found in the I-751 and also on the USCIS website: 1-800-375-5283. They should at least tell you if they have a record if you package was received. If not, you still have time to send another one. By they way, also make copies of your package in case it get lost. We made a copy just in case, but what I found more useful was having a tracking number to see how it got delivered and who signed for it. We also did the certified mail card that they send you back with the signature. It’s only like $2 more and it’s worth it.

My recommendation would be that:
• if your savings account statements show both of your names to send that one.
• If you have time, you can also go to the bank and get your wife added as a joint owner of each other checking accounts.
• If you have your utilities bills under both names, maybe you should concentrate on gathering that information.
• if your tax returns show both names, I think you can demonstrate that indeed you are living together.
• They don’t ask for a copy of your driver’s license. We submitted ours because both of us have the same address and that supports that we are living together. However, do you have your cars registered under both names?
• In short, I would recommend you sent information that supports your case and minimize information that can be misunderstood and raise doubts. By the way, if you have photos of you for the past few years with family and friends, print as many you can with a note of what month (and event) that was. Like the sayings goes, a picture is worth 1000 words.

But first, call to find out if they have your package. If not, go ahead and send a new one.

Keep us posted.

-Copi



Copi

Ezara,

since you filed late, did you include a good explanation why you were late? According to their instructions, that is one reason for denying a case. Also, can you provide a list of the information you provided?

I found the following in the USCIS website that might help you decide what to do to prepare for your hearing:

HOW TO APPEAL:

“If your application to remove the conditions on your permanent residence is denied, you will receive a letter that will tell you why the application was denied. The process to remove you from the country will begin as soon as your application is denied. You will be allowed to have an immigration judge review the denial of your application during removal proceedings. During this review, we must prove that the facts on your application were untruthful and/or that your application was properly denied. If the immigration judge decides to remove you from the country, you may appeal this decision.

Generally, you may appeal within 30 days after the immigration judge decides to remove you from the country. After your appeal form and a required fee are processed, the appeal will be referred to the Board of Immigration Appeals in Washington, D.C.”

LATE FILING:
“If You Are Late In Applying To Remove The Conditions On Residence

If you fail to properly file Form I-751 within the 90-day period before your second anniversary as a conditional resident:

• Your conditional resident status will automatically be terminated and we will begin removal proceedings against you
• You will receive a notice from us telling you that you have failed to remove the conditions
• You will receive a Notice to Appear at a hearing. At the hearing you may review and rebut the evidence against you. You are responsible for proving that you complied with the requirements (we are not responsible for proving that you did not comply with the requirements)

The Form I-751 can be filed after the 90-day period if you can prove in writing to the director of the appropriate Service Center that there was good cause for failing to file the petition on time. The director has the discretion to approve the petition and restore your permanent resident status.”



Richard Spencer

My case approved finally from Vermont Service Center on 02/11/2010. We filed jointly in October 2007 and had interview 12/01/2009. The interview was a horrifying ordeal for us as they questioned us on every aspect of our lives. They did not believe that we were living together as a married couple even though we had 2 children together. We told them that we had children from the relationship but the immigration officer said that doesn’t prove anything, anyone can have children together, they wanted to see school records, birth records, financial records, photos, doctors visits, hospital records, immunization records, birth certificate. We also had to provide a DNA test to show them that these were our children. We also had to provide rent, bank, credit cards, work, tax, insurance records showing that we were living together. Although from the time we got married we had all documents in joint names, at the interview we took complete sets of everything as they asked us to bring this for the interview.

They examined every document and interviewed us separately in different rooms. The immigration was rude and abrupt and talked to us in a very disrespectful manner. Some of the questions were very intimidating and personal like did you have children for a green card? How can you prove that these are your children? Why do you love your wife? Did you or did she agree to the marriage? How soon did you marry after meeting? Why did you move to the US? What will you do if you deny for application?

I am from Canada and my wife is from US. We were working together for the same corporation and knew each other for almost 6 years before we married. I only moved to the US as I don’t have any family in Canada and she has a loving family that accepted me with own arms. I have always had a very high regard for the US and I still believe this is a great country but the USCIS and the immigration system has a bunch of paranoid idiots working for them. They have no humanity and this type of interview technique makes you feel as though you are subhuman.

Anyway my case is approved and I hope to put this episode behind me. I wish no one has to go through this ordeal to prove that you love someone.

God Bless you All and God Bless America.



Feona

Hello to evey one on this forum.

It seems some people get approved with no difficulty and the minimum amount of evidence even in divorce cases which we might expect should be denied. Whilst others who are still married living together and also having children together who we might expect should get approved straightaway are not so successful.

I guess there is no formula for the type of evidence that the immigration service is looking for!!!! In the end I guess is comes down to the individual immigration officer looking at your application. If he/she finds your application credible then you get approved. If not then they deny your application.

I also read somewhere that the USCIS recruited additional staff so it might be possible that the less experience immigration officers are approving more cases and the more experienced officer are denying cases. This is just a thought!! I know that if they deny your case it has to be approved by a supervisor before they send you the paper work. But if they approve your case then this is done at the discretion of the individual immigration officer without any supervisor approval.

I also remember reading somewhere but I’m not sure of the exact totals or if the information is correct that in the year 2007 about 12,500 i-751 applications were denied. This seems very high as only about 95,000 petitions were submitted. This means almost 13% denied or almost 1 in every 10 application has the potential for denial.

Feona



Copi

Richard: Thanks for sharing your experience with us. I guess some people are just robots. I’m very happy that you got approved and can put this behind you. I do have a question. You said your filed in Oct 2007, but the interview was more than two years later. Why did it take so long? In that period did they keep asking you for more information?

Feona: This approval process is not being done objectively. If fact, it all subjective…what the reviewer perceives as being a “real” versus a “phony/fake” marriage. I used to be an auditor and even within my team, some saw everything as bland and white, where other of us learned that there is a big grey area that needs to be taken into account. To the defense of the USCIS reviewers, they have a responsibility to make sure they minimize the risk of approving cases where two people try to bypass the immigration laws. However, if I were them, I would then just interview the couple. You learn a lot just from observing the couple sitting across your desk. I will recommend any of you who get selected for an interview to discuss with your spouse and do a mock interview….maybe a friend or family member can do it. The more experience you have answering questions, the better prepared you will be. Hope that helps!

-Copi



Copi

Jerry: just to let you know, as I mentioned before, we re-mailed our package on Monday. They received it on Tuesday and I just check my checking account and the check cleared today. Please call them to verify they received your package. As you can see from the other postings, it doesn’t take more than a week or so to get the check cashed.

Keep us posted.

-Copi



Roger

What happens if your case was denied the first time due to lack of evidence? Do you have a chance to send in more evidence? I didn’t realize how strict it is. Only sent in our lease and tax return. Now I’m worried.



Copi

Roger: if that is all the information you sent, then most likely you will be receiving a letter to provide more information.

i would recommend you begin collecting as much information you can because you will need it whether you need to provide more evidence, in the case you are asked to come for an interview, or if denied when you appeal your case. See the instructions in the I-751 for the example of information you can send.

You should spend some time together gathering the additional information. For example, affidavits, photos, Utilities bills, checking and savings accounts, credit cards, insurances statements, etc.. You can see in previous postings what some of us have sent. In short, anything that can demonstrate that both of you live together.

By the way, has the package been received and check cashed?

You also posted that your wife was going to be away for a full month. Who is the conditional permanent resident (you or her)? You might need to reconsider the duration of the trip. Also, keep in mind that you two might be asked to go to an interview.

Hope that helps!

-Copi



Jackyline Mitchell

Hi Copi,

Its me Jacky, remember I mentioned in this forum that I sent the court dismissal and other joint accounts and insurance we had with my husband. I mailed it on the 22nd of January and they received it the next day. I looked up the updates of my case, it says that the case was updated on January 28, 2010 to remove the conditional status. Do you have any idea if what it is and if are they really working on my case? Thanks



Copi

Hi Jacky!

Yes, of course, I remember you. I’ve wondering about you lately.

Every time they update your record is because they took an action on your case not necessarily a decision. In this case, it could be that they updated something on your case such as documenting that they have received the additional information you submitted. In any case, they are working on your case. You will be receiving something in the mail with more detailed information if they have made a decision, but you might be able to see on the website when they make their final decision (approve/deny).

By the way, have you had your biometrics appointment already?

Also, when you called, did they tell you that you could continue with your joint-filing of I-751, or that you needed to submit a waiver to change the status of your petition from joint-filing to filing with a waiver (divorce or death)?

Take care and keep us posted!

-Copi



Jackyline Mitchell

When I called the USCIS they said that I have to give them court dismissal and certified death certificate which I did. I already had my biometrics on december last year. The representative said that I could just continue my filing but have to give them death certificate and court dismissal. In addition to that, I included the home insurance, auto insurance, retirements and investment accounts thats me the sole benefeciary. Do you know how often they update the website? Thanks Copi, I will keep you posted.

Take care!



Copi

Hi Jacky,

ok, good that you’ve already had the biometrics done, and that you sent what they asked you for when you called them. Also, the other information you sent is good to demonstrate the marriage was entered in good faith (bona fide). Now, it’s just a matter of waiting.

The website gets update when they update your records. I’m not sure if you noticed that on the website you can set it up to send you an email or text message when there is an update on your case. I used that email notification service two years when we were tracking the progress of the conditional permanent resident card and I found it very useful. In order to get the emails or text messages, you will need to create an account.

By the way, their process includes 7 steps that each case undergoes :
1. Acceptance
2. Initial Review
3. Request for Evidence
4. Testing and interview
5. Decision
6. Post-Decision Activity
7. Document Production or Oath Ceremony
(note: I numbered them for easy identification)

Which step is you case in right now? That can also give you an idea how much progress they are doing. From what you have shared with us, i think you are on step 3. Keep in mind that each time has a different time duration and is unique for each case. For example, step 4 could be bypassed when they don’t require you an interview and go directly to step 5 (decision).

Hope that helps! (By the way, tomorrow is Presidents’ day and they are closed.)

-Copi



Jackyline Mitchell

Hi Copi,

Thanks for the information, the website says my case is still in initial review although it should have said request for more evidence because I received that letter from them requesting for evidence which was I mentioned to you earlier. I created an account to USCIS for the update of my case and you are right that is very useful. Thank for all the information.

Jacky



Copi

Hi Jacky,

I think some steps overlap. I would agree with you that your should be in step 3, but I also read the description for step 2 and it indicates that they can also request more information in that phase. I think phase 2 is the step that takes most of the time. Step 3-4 seem to be for those cases they need more information because they have doubts. So, really, the step we should be looking at is when it moved to step 5 (decision). I’m waiting for my Notice of Action (NOA, I-797) to track my case. I’ll share my progress once I have that…hopefully this week.

Happy President’s Day!

-Copi



Copi

Jerry,

were you able to call USCIS last week? As I was hoping Jacky with the overall process, I noticed that step 1 (Acceptance) indicates the following:

“The acceptance step is usually completed within 2 days of when the application is received. With mailed time it may take several weeks for you to get the receipt or rejection notice in the mail. If you do not receive your notice within 30 days of mailing your application, please contact our national customer service center at 1-800-375-5283.”

Please call so you know what is the next step for you to take (e.g. resending the package).

Hope that helps!

-Copi



Copi

To all:

FYI: i found the following useful information as to when an interview is not required and is waived:

Interview —(1) Authority to waive interview.
The director of the regional service center shall review the Form I–751 filed by the alien and the alien’s spouse to determine whether to waive the interview required by the Act. If satisfied that the marriage was not for the purpose of evading the immigration laws, the regional service center director may waive the interview and approve the petition. If not so satisfied, then the regional service center director shall forward the petition to the district director having jurisdiction over the place of the alien’s residence so that an interview of both the alien and the alien’s spouse may be conducted. The director must either waive the requirement for an interview and adjudicate the petition or arrange for an interview within 90 days of the date on which the petition was properly filed.



Copi

FYI – very useful information:

(d) Decision —
(1) Approval. If the director approves the joint petition he or she shall provide written notice of the decision to the alien and shall require the alien to report to the appropriate office of the Service for processing for a new Permanent Resident Card (if necessary), at which time the alien shall surrender any Permanent Resident Card previously issued.

(2) Denial. If the director denies the joint petition, he or she shall provide written notice to the alien of the decision and the reason(s) therefor and shall issue a notice to appear under section 239 of the Act and 8 CFR part 239. The alien’s lawful permanent resident status shall be terminated as of the date of the director’s written decision. The alien shall also be instructed to surrender any Permanent Resident Card previously issued by the Service. No appeal shall lie from the decision of the director; however, the alien may seek review of the decision in removal proceedings. In such proceedings the burden of proof shall be on the Service to establish, by a preponderance of the evidence, that the facts and information set forth by the petitioners are not true or that the petition was properly denied.



Copi

FYI: the previous interview and decision posting are when filed jointly.

When filed with a waiver, the interview requirement and decision are:

Interview:
The service center director may refer the application to the appropriate local office and require that the alien appear for an interview in connection with the application for a waiver. The director shall deny the application and initiate removal proceedings if the alien fails to appear for the interview as required, unless the alien establishes good cause for such failure and the interview is rescheduled.

Decision:
The director shall provide the alien with written notice of the decision on the application for waiver. If the decision is adverse, the director shall advise the alien of the reasons therefor, notify the alien of the termination of his or her permanent residence status, instruct the alien to surrender any Permanent Resident Card issued by the Service and issue a notice to appear placing the alien in removal proceedings. No appeal shall lie from the decision of the director; however, the alien may seek review of such decision in removal proceedings.

Goodnite!

-Copi



Roger

Hi Copi,

Thanks for the suggestions! My wife is the conditional resident. The package has been received and the check cashed. I wanted her to delay her trip back to Taiwan, but she refused. She argued that her temp resident card doesn’t expire until 4/30, and she will be back by 4/2. Actually we had a big argument over that. She misses her family too much. Anyways, I’m gathering more evidence. What’s your suggestion in submitting the photos of us? Should we put them in photo albums, stick them to sheets of papers, or put them in envelope? Thanks again for your help.



Sunny

Hi Roger,

She should have no problem. My GC was going to expire on January 29, 2010. I travelled out of the country on December 31, 2009 and came back on January 20, 2010. Although I had the letter with the one-year extension with me they did not ask for it. However for added peace of mind it is better to have the extension letter with her, if you get it before she leaves. Good luck.



Copi

Hi Roger,

well, there is no restrictions that the conditional permanent resident can’t travel while his or her petition is being reviewed. However, if your case is selected for an interview, then you will have to make yourself available. I’m not sure how accommodating USCIS will be in rescheduling the interview, but they might depending on the information you provide. However, keep in mind that failure to show up for the interview can result in the case being denied. So, that is something you and your wife need to discuss in the case you received a notification for an interview.

About the photos, I sent them a separate folder and when it got processed at service center, they took it out and punch-holed it all together. So, I would recommend that you just glue the photos to regular-size sheets and include some notes or captions of when you took those photos (e.g. 2009 Birthday Party, State.). Just make sure they are not loose. But, if you send a photo album, that might be also fine. I’m just sharing with you what they did with our package.

-Copi



Roger

Thanks Sunny and Copi!

My wife received her I-751 receipt notice today stating that her conditional resident status is extended for one year. Is this the letter that she should carry with her when she travel out of the country? On the receipt it stated that’If you have not already done so, provide supporting documents to assist USCIS in processing your petition and to establish eligibility to remove the conditional basis of your permanent residence.’ Can I send in more evidences w/ the copy of this receipt or should I wait until we receive a notice that they need more evidences?



Copi

Hi Roger,

I was about to write you a message asking you if you had gotten the notice of action (I-797C), and I’m glad you did because we got our notification today, too. I was going to point out to you that statement that “If you have not already done so, provide supporting information…PLEASE INCLUDE A COPY OF THIS RECEIPT NOTICE WITH ANY SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS YOU SUBMIT…”). That’s good news because you can send the information now without having to wait. My recommendation is to send that information this week, if possible, so you case is not delayed because they need to issue a formal request for information.

By the way, when is your wife planning on traveling? She has to be here for the biometric appointment which from some recent cases it can take from a couple of weeks from receipt to over a month. The usually schedule the appointment 14 weeks in advance. So, for example, assuming that it was scheduled today, it would be March 2nd. Keep that in mind for the travel dates. Any scheduling they agree to do delays your case progress. I know it’s a sensitive issue with your wife, but she needs to understand the risks she is taking. One approved, she could stay as long as she would like.

Hope that helps!

-Copi



Copi

Roger,

yes, she needs to carry this letter with her as well as the conditional permanent card, which is still good until it expires.

-Copi



Copi

Roger,

where did you file? California or Vermont Service Center? We filed in California. I’ll keep you posted when we get the biometrics appointment.

-Copi



Roger

Hi Copi,

We also filed in California, as we live in the state of Washington. I’m glad we can send in the supporting evidence now. I’m recovering from an ankle injury, so have a lot of free time for now. My wife is traveling to Taiwan on 3/6 and will not be back until 4/2. I hope her biometric appointment is not until after 4/2. I tried to tell her as well the importance of getting the case approved, but she just doesn’t understand. She brought the plane tickets already. Oh well, just hope it all works out.



Copi

Hi Roger,

well, let’s wait and see when the biometrics appointment is scheduled for. It could be another month for that. Once you know you can discuss with your wife if she wants to try to reschedule in case she might not be back by then, or if it can’t be re-scheduled she would know by what date she needs to be back to the U.S.. I’ll keep updated as for our case given that we filed about the same time.

-Copi



Bob

To: Roger

Hello, my name is Bob

Your wife can have her finger prints completed earlier as long as you have the I-797-c letter showing that the USCIS service center has already received your application.

An early bio is called a walk-in, this means you can go to the nearest application support center in your jurisdiction without the need for an appointment and have your finger prints taken. Your wife will need her valid or expired conditional permanent residence card (green card), her state ID like drivers license, work I.D badge or something else with a photo and her name showing where she resides, she will also need her Taiwan passport and the uscis letter (1797-c).

Once you get there, tell the security officer that you are there for i-751 bio. He/she will give you a clipboard with some papers, like the one you got the first time you had the bio done. It will also be in the same office if you have not changed address since your marriage and granting of the conditional green card. Fill out the paper work and give it back to the security guard. Then just wait to be called, this usually isn’t long but you just have to wait until they call your wife. Once the bio is completed the officer will stamp the back of i-797-c letter stating that you have completed the bio side of the i-751 application.

If you have changed address then go on the USCIS website and look under application support center. Click on this, then enter your zip code, this will generate the closet application support in your area. It will also give you directions and hours of business.

I hope this helps and may your wife have a safe and flight to Taiwan.



Copi

Bob,

are you sure it is still allowed to just show up at the application service center (ASC) without an appointment and the letter? Maybe it was acceptable in the past. However, the notice both Roger and I got yesterday clearly states the opposite, it states: “You MUST wait for your appointment notice before going to the ASC for biometric processing.”

-Copi



Roger

Hi Bob,

Thanks for the info and the good wishes! Like Copi stated, the letter we received stated that we MUST wait for the appointment notice before going to the ASC for biometric processing. I recently broke my right ankle, so it is not comfortable for me to move around or wait for a long time in the waiting area. We will wait for that appointment notice. Hopefully it will be at least a month from now.



Leila

I just sent in my I-751 petition and was just reading some of the comments.

Quick question, passport sized photos of the applicant are not a requirement unless you reside overseas … correct ? I hope that’s that’s right … any info would be super!



Roger

Hi Leila,

That’s correct, passport sized photos of the applicant are not required unless he/she resides overseas.



JERRY

COPI
I wasn’t able to get online the past view days. Thanks for the input. Seem we are going to send another set of application (evidences). I surely appreciated for your input. And i will keep you guys posted. I hope my case for being over 2 year time line since the judge approved our case won’t be a big problem to get this I 751 approval. Thank you and happy happy valentine days.

Jerry



Copi

Jerry,

I’ve been thinking more about your case and am trying to understand why the judge or lawyer didn’t notify you about the conditional residency at the time of the original approval. Usually, you don’t go directly to a judge. When the I-130 (petition for alien relative/spouse) and I-485 (adjustment of status), you have an interview with an immigration adjudicator/officer. Was your case handled differently that your case was referred to a judge?

In any case, you already have the receipt # (NOA, I-797-C), place a copy of that notice on top of your package so that they can your case and not misplace your information. Otherwise, they recommend you include the Alien (A#) number and your name.

-Copi



Copi

To all:

I’ve done some analysis and here are some observations I have made of cases filed since December 2009 till now…upon receipt of the I-751:

• 5 – 7 days to receive notice of action (NOA, I-797-C)
• 2 – 7 days for USCIS to cash check
• 1.5 – 3 weeks to receive biometrics appointment
• 2 – 2.5 weeks biometrics taken
• 2 – 3 weeks to make a decision after biometrics

Range: 6 -10 weeks

Disclaimer: Please use those metrics as guidelines in case you have not heard from USCIS. It might take longer if waivers are filed, additional request for evidence (RFE), and interview is required, and of course on the adjudicator reviewing your case. I’ll keep posting updates once in a while to see if my estimates have changed. And for those who asked how I came up with those numbers, see my posting of Feb 10th where I analyzed some of the postings of approved cases, and also I reviewed data from other cases posted in other websites/forums.

Hope that helps and goodnite!

-Copi



JERRY

COPI
Bad news first :) #I just get my file back from Vermont office saying i am not eligible for the benefit filing of form I-751. It said i need to include both side copy of my I-551 Alien Registration Card (Is this the same as Green Card?). I just have stamp on my passport and i did included a copy of it.
Second bad news # I went to the attorney who took care our case 2 years ago. And he acted innocent and ops…you late and now he is asking another $1500 for filing I-751.
Back to your question#
Yes i have I-130 case then I-485. But since it handle by the lawyer, all paper work from the court came thru him. When the judge granted our petition case, judge nor the lawyer never mention about 2 year condition but saying wait for the GC at home after i did the biometric. Until now, have been 2 years i never receive the actual card, just stamp on my passport. Then now they said my 2 years condition counted from the time the judge granted the case.
Good news# The Vermont office didn’t say the case has been denied (yet). But i am still in the shadow and can’t understand where my status is. I did put on my application my A# and even wrote a letter try to explained why i filed it late, but i guess the officer didn’t check my file that far that’s why he didn’t see the copy of my passport.
Thank you for reading this long msg. Any advice will helpful.

Jerry



JERRY

ROGER
I don’t think your wife have a problem to travel with this documents, it’s a legal valid government anyway. But from what i heard it can be a hassle to enter the country (US). Better of your wife go back after she receive the actual card. Good luck

Jerry



JERRY

COPI
When you sent the application the second time, did you use the same application or you fill the new one? Thanks

Jerry



Roger

Hi Jerry,

It is too late, my wife brought the tickets to go back to Taiwan already. There’s no way she’s going to wait. Good luck with your case as well.



Copi

Jerry,

Answers to your questions:
1. Yes, the I-551 is the conditional permanent card (green card). The I-551 is their official form name. USCIS was supposed to follow their own procedures and upon the judge decision, they should have mailed your the approval notice. Of course, most likely that went to your lawyer who seems to have failed to notify you.

2. We didn’t file a new I-751. We just included a sticky/post it note that we were sending our package back. To be safe, we just scratched the old date (1/20/2010) and dated again with the new date (2/8/2010) on the same I-751 we had originally filed. They accepted it. (I had already completed a new form, but since they had already two-hole punched my package, I didn’t want to include two application with the same information (but different dates when we signed them) to cause any confusion.

Hope that helps!

-Copi



Copi

Jerry,

Here are some ideas:

1. When you filed your I-485 to adjust a status and it got approved, they are required by their own procedures to send you a written notification of approval. In fact, when you filed your I-485, you should have received a Notice of Action (NOA, I-797). That NOA includes a receipt number that you can use to track your case even now after two year. (Note: I can still see our I-485 last status). If you do have it, enter that number to check the status of your approved I-485 and you will see the last status entered by USCIS. You case is on either step 6 or 7 which are “Post Decision Activity” or “Document Production or Oath Ceremony”. There you should see something like this:
“Current Status: Card production ordered. On Month and day, 2008, we ordered production of your new card. Please allow 30 days for your card to be mailed to you. If we need something from you we will contact you. If you move before you receive the card, call customer service.”

or “Current Status: Card Mailed. On Month and day, 2008, we mailed the new card directly to the address we have on file. You should receive your new card within 30 days. If you do not, or if you move before you get it, call customer service.” Please let me know if you see that.

2. If you don’t have the I-797 receipt of your I-485, your lawyer might have it. If he or she does, then it should be provided to you free of charge given that you had already paid him when he filed those forms for you and he was receiving the information from USCIS.

3. If not, you can call or schedule an Infopass appointment with the USCIS office and talk to the director so that you can get a definite answer on the status of your green card. Reference your I-485 using your Alien number (A#). However, if you do find that receipt number because that will help a lot understanding what happened to your I-551 (green card) that you were supposed to have received and save you a trip to your local USCIS office.

4. By the way, when you re-file your I-751, it will be good that your reference the receipt of your I-485 so that they can see why you didn’t receive the I-551 (green card). Otherwise, they might returned back to you stating the same that you are not eligible for the benefits sought (i.e. removing condition on permanent residency). This is important because you need to prove that you are eligible to receive those benefits, and since you didn’t include the green card (and you are probably right, they didn’t read your note), they returned back to you. So, add a note not to return it to you, but have them check your I-485 first. At the same time, I would recommend you continue finding what is the last status on your I-485.

5. If you decide to hire a lawyer, don’t hire the former one. Hire a competent and responsible lawyer who has a good record and is transparent.

Hope that helps!

-Copi



Roger

How important are the affidavits? If I didn’t include them as part of the evidences, would it matter? How many photos are needed? I included about 150 photos, but have read some people included 300-500 photos.



Copi

Roger,

affidavits are an example of the evidence you can provide. They are not required. Some people argue that they are weakest evidence because anybody could write something on your behalf. However, in my personal opinion, I do think they matter to the extent that they support your overall evidence submitted. For instance, let’s say you and your wife had a baby. Most likely, someone who REALLY knows you would write something like, we were notified when their child was born, or we have met their new addition to their family. So, if you have submitted a birth certificate of your child, you can see these two pieces of information would help the USCIS adjudicator/reviewer feel more comfortable that your marriage was entered in good faith (bona fide). In short, they do have some weight (maybe not as much as other information) but if they can support events in your life as you have provided in other information, then send them. That’s why in their instructions indicate that you should send as much evidence to demonstrate you entered and are in bona fide marriage. Ask some friends, family, or your local church leader to write you an affidavit. If you decide to send the affidavits, then you need to send at least two of them.

About photos, they are not required either. Similar argument as the affidavits. If you think photos can support some of the other evidence you submitted or can show that you are together in family, friend or public events, at least they serve to show the adjudicator that you marriage is not something that you are hiding from people (i.e. potential fraud). The reasoning is that when you married someone, you actually tell people and they see you together in events (i.e. public knowledge). How many to send? it’s up to you. I asked a friend who got approved two years, and i thin he sent less than 20 photos. We sent about 80 photos because I created a timeline events since conditional residency was granted. We added a note for example: Vacation in given location, date and include 2-3 photos of us together, or of each other posing in the same location. Here is a guiding principle: ask yourself, will this picture give an indication that we are together, that we are a (married) couple, etc..

Hope that helps!

-Copi



JERRY

COPI
I only have one SRC# which 0722851495. Is that every SRC# is different for every decision they made? In there they just said they received my I-485 application and will notify how they process the case, you can look up for your self. Which, on Dec 13th 2007 were the judge granted the case. And the field office been giving me stamps twice since then. I’M CONFUSED! I ask the lawyer for copies of my file, he just gave me copies of documents the one we gave him. Nothing shown any letter from USCIS. Am i out of luck?! I am going to send this application back. The application returned had a stamp on it showed when they received and on remark side said “Pen 1/14/00″ That’s the date when i entered the country. I am not sure if anything to do with my application, they received my application on Jan 15th. Will keep you posted. Have a good day Copi.

Jerry



JERRY

ROGER
I think 150 is a good number. I only put around 50. I know couple don’t even put any picture on their file they still approved. I will keep it posted.
Jerry



Jackyline Mitchell

Hi Copi,

I FINALLY GOT THE DECISION AND IT WAS DENIED BECAUSE I HAD FILED WAIVER THAT THE MARRIAGE WAS TERMINATED OR ANNULED BUT THE DIVORCE DID NOT GO THROUGH BECAUSE MY SPOUSE DIED BEFORE THE DIVORCE WAS FINALIZED.

Here is what the letter is saying:

This decision in reference of Form I-751, Petition o Remove the Conditions on Residence, filed by th conditional resident on November 13, 2009. The California Service Center has reviewed the petition and determined that the status of conditional permanent resident was attained on December 4, 2007.

In accordance with the provisions of 8 C.F.R. 216.5(a)(1), a conditional alien who is unable to meet the requirements under section 216 of the Immigration and Nationality Acto for a joint petition for removal of the conditional basis of his or her permanent resident status may file a Form I-751 if the alien request a waiver and was not at fault in failing t meet the filing requirements. A waiver was requested based on the termination of a good faith marriage through divorce or annulment.

Section 216(c)(4)(B) of the Act states, in part, that a waiver of the joint filing requirement may be granted if the alien spouse can establish that:

….the qualifying marriage was entered into in good faith by the alien spouse, but the qualifying marriage has been terminated (other than through death of the spouse) and the alien was not at fault in failing to meet the requirements of paragraph (1)….

Further, in Matter of Anderson, 20 I&N Dec. 888, it was determined that an alien spouse:

… was ineligible to apply for a waiver under section 216(c)(4)(B)[of the Act] because she remained married to her husband… if te respondent had become statutorily eligible to apply for the section 216 (c)(4)(B) waiver by virtue of changed circumstances, i.e, through the termination of her marriage…she could have sought a continuance from the immigration judge to pursue her alternative application with the Service.

There is a statutory requirement that the qualifying marriage be terminated prior to the filing of a waiver request under section 216(c)(4)(B) of the Act, in order to meet the prerequisites for the waiver filing. However, this requirement has been amended to give the conditional permanen resident an opportunity to qualify for the waiver. Under the current guidelines, if USCIS determines that the CPR failed to qualifry for the waiver request under section 216 (C)(4)(B) of the Act, a request of evidence will be issued giving the conditional permanent resident 84 days in which to qualify for the waiver. If the CPR does not respond to the request, or if the CPR’s response does not establish eligibiligy for the waiver, the petition will be denied.

The record indicates that the applicant did not submit evidence with the Form I-751 petition to establish that he or she qualifies for the waiver request under section 216(c)(4)(B) of the Act. As such, a request for evidence was issued on January 12, 2010, giving the applicant 84 days in which to submit evidence that the qualifying marriage has been terminated. On Januar 2, 2010, the applicant responded the Service’s request by submitting evidenc of the petitioner’s death, a certified registered death certificate. The petitioner died on November 7, 2009. The applicant has not submitted evidence that indicates he or she qualifies for the waiver request under section 216(c)(4)(B) of the Act.

The applicant may qualify for a waiver request because her spouse is deceased.

Therefore, the petition is denied and the conditional residence status is concurrently terminated. This decision may not be appealed. However, the conditional resident may request a review of this decision before an Immigration Judge pursuant to 8 C.F.R. 216.5(f). At that time, the conditional resident may request continuance of the removal proceedings until the applicant is eligible to file a waiver of the joint filing requirementt. Please note that a Notice of Appear before an Immigration Judge will be issued and forwarded to the applicant.

The conditional resident is hereby directed to immediately surrender their Alien Registration Card to their loal USCIS office.

What should I do now? Does anybody in the forum had experienced this kind of situation. I really need help right now.

Thanks.



Copi

Hi Jerry,

To my understanding, the receipt number is unique to the form/application submitted. If you only submitted one I-485, then that would be the number where your case status would have been updated. I checked your case status, and you are right, it’s shows the last update still in the initial review step. (Again, I have read that sometimes their last update on the website is not necessary the latest update.) In any case, something seems odd with your case. If an (immigration) judge made a decision, then it goes back to the USCIS service center to continue processing…unless if they are still investigating something about your case. My suggestion is that at this point in time, you really need to talk to the director of a local/district office to get an answer. If you are only talking to the information officers, all they do is check their system, but might not be authorized to tell you more. You need someone who is authorized to give you the specifics about your case and why the green card has not been sent. It’s good that you have the stamps on your passport, at least that is allowing you to be living and working legally here.

By the way, while you do setup that infopass appointment, you should send your I-751 again. When you mail it, I would recommend you write a note with an explanation for them to minimize the same thing they did when they returned it back to you because you didn’t submit the I-551 (green card). You can prepare something in capital letters like: EXPLANATION FOR SUBMITTING COPY OF PASSPORT IN LIEU OF AN I-551 Form (GREEN CARD). Then include an explanation that your I-485 was approved by an immigration judge on MM/DD/2007 to grant you permanent residency and are still waiting for the green card. In the meantime, you are submitting a copy of the Passport stamped that shows the day when the judge approved your case, and with stamps of subsequent extensions you have received when you stop by a USCIS local office to inquire about your green card. Hopefully, that would prevent them for not returning back to you again. Please send it via overnight or priority mail and add the certified mail. That way you can track when they receive it.

If they return it back to you and you can’t meet with the director of your local district office or someone who can give you a definitive answer, then you need to consider hiring a lawyer. I’m not sure about your former lawyer. He doesn’t seem to explain to you your options other than trying to charge you a lot of money just to fill out the I-751 form which you have done yourself. There are pro bono lawyers in case you would like to consult with one of them to see what option you have and what recommendations they can give you. Don’t wait too long. Timing is critical. You want to do all this while you still have a valid stamp on your passport.

Follow this link:

http://www.justice.gov/eoir/probono/states.htm

Hope that helps!

-Copi



Copi

Hi Jackie,

USCIS follows their standard procedures to review the case for eligibility. In your case what USCIS wrote is that due to the fact that your filed (11/13/2009) after your husband had passed away (11/7/2009) and since the marriage was not terminated through divorce or annulled, then you don’t qualify for that waiver because legally you were never divorced and couldn’t demonstrate that by providing a divorce decree or annulment of marriage. Therefore, following their procedures, they have to deny your case due to not be eligible for that type of waiver.

By the way, on your posting of Jan 12, you wrote that you had filed your I-751 on September 2009. USCIS wrote that you filed until November. Did you file jointly first and then requested to have your application amended to request a waiver?

However, they are not saying it’s over. They indicate that you may qualify for a waiver of the joint fling due to death of your spouse. You will have to ask for that when you ask the the immigration judge to review your case. Under that waiver, you have to submit is the death certificate (which you have and can demonstrate). (They might ask you to provide the other information that the marriage was entered in good faith because they know you were planning on getting divorce.)

I have read that there is nothing that prohibits a person from filing a new I-751 before your note to appear is issued. That would generate a new I-797c that would extend your conditional residency for another year. However, I’m not sure if that would jeopardize your case. I think it’s worth you consult with an immigration lawyer and ask what they recommend. You can see the link I provided to Jerry of Pro bono lawyers/organizations that can help you:
http://www.justice.gov/eoir/probono/states.htm

Don’t wait too long…timing is of an issue. If the immigration lawyer recommends filing right away a I-751 with the waiver request due to the death of a spouse, then go ahead. Otherwise, you might want to decide if you bring a lawyer when you see the judge which may take some time (in some cases more than a year).

Remember, it’s not over, you seem to have at least another option…please act quickly.

Hope that helps!

-Copi



JERRY

COPI
Your information always a help, thank you for that. We are going to send the file today (I-751 and support documents). I put the copy of the judge paper on top, then copy of my passport with I-551 stamp then my application and statement. We use filing tab to separate one file and the other, hope that will help them to get to see the file they are looking for.
My wife planning to use Fed-ex service, do you think it should not be a problem isn’t? All i have read everyone use USPS services. I am a cross country truck driver which out 2-3 weeks at a time. My wife have to work and take care the baby. So hard for us to set an appointment since i can’t set schedule to be home at the right time. Beside they don’t want to release my status information to my wife when she went to the field office, but they want to see if we are married in a good faith, i am confused! I will check on the field director see if he/she have an answer for me. Dealing with attorney sometime even more confusing, seem they like you to have trouble so they have case to work on. In a week or two i should have an answer from this package, i will keep you posted. Thanks Copi and Good luck to you all. Good day.

Jerry



Copi

Jerry,

you should be fine sending via FedEx. You also have a tracking number and can check the status. Most of the people use USPS because since their own the P.O. Boxes, then you know it gets delivered for sure. So, whatever you feel comfortable with.

Good that you are providing the judge order, and also don’t forget to send your baby’s birth certificate as it is one of the items they required if you have children.

You need to also include the notice they sent you back with you package. To be safe, you can write that you might be filing late (if indeed the judge stamp counts as the starting point of the 2-year conditional permanent residency) so that they will not return it back because they think it’s late and there was no explanation.

About the lawyer, maybe your wife can consult with one of those pro bono (free/volunteer) lawyers while you are on the road.

Best wishes and keep us posted.

-Copi



Jackyline Mitchell

Dear Copi

Yes I did september with the request to waive the fee. Unfortunately, USCIS was not able to waive my filing fee so they sent it back to me and I provided them a money order around november which they cashed few days after. I will try to find a lawyer that can help me. Thanks a lot Copi. I will keep you posted.

Jacky



Jackyline Mitchell

Is marrying another US citizen would save me? I don’t want to get married but I will if I have to.



Cha

My fiance was divorced in January of this year. He is getting ready to file the I-751 form separately not jointly. Due to money issues right now he is unable to have a lawyer represent($2000) him and help with the filing of his I-751, so he will be filing the forms hisself. His documentations expires on 3/12/2010. Do you think it is a good idea for him to go ahead and file the forms hisself? His ex-wife has provided him with all the proof of marriage documentations etc… that he thinks he will need.

Anyones input or suggestions are welcomed.



Jackyline Mitchell

Hi Cha,

Yes, he can just go ahead and file it himself. He doesn’t need a lawyer as long as he provide documentation that the marriage with his ex-wife was bonafide(enter in good faith) like joint accounts, credit card, tax file jointly before the divorce, joint tenancy and anything that shows they were together. Send the divorce decree and a letter indicating why they decided to get divorced. He should file asap coz it will be a problem if he files late. Hope that helps..



Copi

Cha,

Jackyline is right. He can file it himself. Most of us in this forum have filed our own forms. However, your fiance needs to file ASAP. His 90-day filing period will be over in a couple of weeks…16 days left. If he fails late, then he would need to file with a very good explanation hoping that the USCIS director accepts it but it’s up to his/her discretion, and that could be grounds for denying the petition.

In his case since he’s divorce, he really needs to provide the divorce decree and evidence was enter in good faith (bona fide) so send as information much as possible. Make sure he read the instructions of form I-751 for the information that needs to be provided, including the waiver request that he needs to prepare. Get him to work on that this week and weekend, and mail it Monday which is already March 1st.

Keep us posted!

-Copi



Copi

Jacky,

about your question marrying another US citizen, I personally don’t think there is a simple answer because it depends. In theory, one would argue that yes that would be a potential solution because you would start from scratch (i.e new I-I30 and I-485 filed) going through the process of getting them approved and getting another conditional permanent residency card, which you would need to file another I-751 to remove the conditions on residency. That would be a perfect scenario. However, your need to take into account how you case might be perceived. There is a risk that your case might be perceived as suspicious from the adjudicator’s perspective. In addition, he or she might think that you married again to evade immigration laws. According to their procedures, they would have to assign a fraud level indicator to your case and scrutinize significantly because you have filed before. You can imagine how painful that interview would be. So, to, me, that’s very risky and the consequences could be severe. For instance, not being able to come back to this country for 10 years (or potentially permanently)

Regardless of what you decide to do, there are risks involved in any decision. I strongly recommend that at this point in time you really need to consult with a lawyer to understand your options. Please don’t make a mistake that may jeopardize your current case from being reviewed by the immigration judge. Your case is unique in the sense that unfortunately, due to the death of your husband, the divorce process was not completed and as a result of that the divorce was dismissed. However, even the adjudicator wrote in your denial letter that you MAY qualify for the waiver due to death of your spouse. You just need to focus (maybe with the help of a lawyer) to convince the judge to allow you to file the I-751 with a waiver given the death of your spouse. You already have the death certificate and collected the evidence that the marriage was entered in good faith. Also, keep in mind that if the judge doesn’t allow you to file the new I-751 that you can appeal that decision. So, there is hope! If you are short in money, consult with a pro-bono lawyer at least to hear your options they suggest and validate what I and others here recommend to you.

In short, I see the following viable options:

1. Wait for your notice to appear and request to immigration judge to review your case and to allow you to file a new I-751 form with the waiver due to death of spouse. I think for this you will need an immigration lawyer to help you, unless if you would like to risk it by yourself. If the judge denies your request, then you (and/or lawyer) can appeal that decision.

2. From postings that I have read of immigrations lawyers that provide their services pro bono, they indicate that there is nothing that prohibits you from filing a new I-751 now before you receive your notice to appear in front of a judge. In this case, you need to file a new I-751 with the waiver request due to death of spouse. You still have the conditional permanent card to make a copy of it to show eligibility for filing the I-751. You will have to include an explanation for filing late, but you can explain it was due to filing of incorrect waiver the first time. You will receive a new I-797c form with a one year extension and that would stop the issuing of the notice to appear. Again, I’m not a lawyer, so, I would recommend you validate this option with a (pro-bono) lawyer.

Hope that helps!

-Copi



Jackyline Mitchell

Hi Copi,

Thanks a lot for your post. I think I will file an I-751 again but with the waiver due to the death of spouse. But I would have to ask them to waive my fee. Do you think it will still be good even though the already have my file? Wont it confuse the USCIS?

Thanks,
Jacky



Copi

Hi Jacky,

the new I-751 will be treated as a separate case. Since they had made a decision on the first I-751, I don’t think it will confuse them. There is a higher risk of getting confuse when a case is still in review. By the way, when you check online, does your current case show that it’s in the “decision” or “post-decision activity” phase or still in “initial review”?

Since they didn’t waive the fee the first time your filed you I-751, I’m not sure if they will waive it this time given that USCIS depends on the fees we pay to review the cases and provide their services. You can always try to request the waiver.

From the link I provide you with, have you been able to identify a pro bono attorney/organization?

Have a goodnite!

-Copi



Copi

Hi Jacky:

FYI – from one of the USCIS memo…very useful information:

• Multiple Filings
There are no regulatory limitations on how many times a CPR may file an I-751 petition. For example, a CPR who initially files a jointly filed I-751 petition may subsequently file an I-751 waiver request Adjudication of Form I-751, Petition to Remove Conditions on Residence Where the CPR Has a Final
Order of Removal, Is in Removal Proceedings, or Has Filed an Unexcused Untimely Petition or
Multiple Petitions

• FIling Late (not applicable to applications with waiver requests):
Statute and regulations allow for distinctly different treatment of jointly filed and waiver request petitions.
Jointly filed petitions must be filed within the 90-day period immediately preceding the second
anniversary of the CPR’s admission or adjustment to permanent residence….There is no specified filing period for a waiver request petition.

Hope that helps!

-Copi



Jackyline Mitchell

Thanks Copi I just finished putting all my paperworks together with the fee waiver. I found one organization of those pro bono lawyers. I will come to the office tomorrow and I will be sending my new packet of applications tomorrow also.



Wendy Tossal

Hi, Jackyline Mitchell

My name is Wendy

I was in exactly the same situation, I was going through divorce and my husband died before the divorce was finalized. I received the same type of letter that you got. It is important to follow the instruction on that letter.

My case was approved at the hearing when the immigration judge reviewed all the evidence and the death certificate to verify that my husband had died.

Most people do not understand the very complex immigration law. They simply re-file the I-751 again and try to buy some time but this does not look good in front of the immigration judge, as you are trying to show that you want to remain in the USA, instead of proving the good faith of the marriage. Also the USCIS will most likely take the fee and still send you the same letter that you received last time, remember the I-751 is to remove the conditions on residence i.e. that the marriage upon which you entered the USA was legit. By refilling you are showing the USCIS that you want to remain in the USA. DO NOT RE-FILE

You must follow the instruction in the letter otherwise you will cause legal problems for your self.

This is what I did:

1. I returned my conditional permanent reside card with a photo copy of the denial letter that I received. You must send this to the USCIS as soon as possible and no later than 14 days, because this is a legal requirement, if you do not send this back then they will blame you of remaining illegally and you will barred from coming back to the USA for 10 years. Also send it by courier service like UPS with signature on delivery.

2. Once the USCIS receives your conditional residence card then they will then send you another letter confirming that you compiled with the law and that your case will be scheduled for hearing in the courts.

3. You will need to hire a lawyer for the hearing.

4. When your case is reviewed the judge will approve you case as long as you have complied with the instructions that the USCIS sent you.

At my hearing there were 6 cases for I-751 denials and the judge approved 4 cases and denied 2 cases. The four that were approved did not re-file the I-751 and sent back the conditional card back as requested. The 2 that were denied, one had repeatedly filed I-751 multiple times, other case was married fraud as the women remarried again to remain in the USA after the husband died.

The immigration judge was a very smart man and can tell that genuine cases from the fraudsters.

If you have any question then I will try to answer them. I wish you the best.



Cha

Jacky,
Thanks for your response.. I told him last night that the more proof of the marriage he has the better it can work for him. As of last night we were getting all documents together that she has sent him to show that the marriage was bone fida. The only problem is that she never really like to take pictures so they only have a limited amount of pics, but they have pictures from the court house and a few out and about. I will asked him tonight to start preparing a letter indicating why they got divorce.

Copi,
Thanks for your response as well. My plan is to have all documents and information and prepared ready to go no later than tuesday of next week…so the plan is to work on everything this weekend. Do you send original docmentation of bills, accounts etc…or do you send copies of everything? What is this waiver request that you have indicated that needs to be prepare, is this in addition to the I-751 form?

Thanks and I will continue to keep you posted.



Cha

Copi…. the waiver request that needs to be prepared is a copy of the divorce decree, right?



tinytim

Got approval for my case

Divorce filing separately. I-751 sent to Vermont Service Center. Approved without interview

I-751 sent 12/28/2009
Bio done 01/18/2010
Approved 02/23/2010

Good luck to all that are still waiting



flexman

My case approved from vermont service center. Married filing jointly

12/24/2009 i-751 mailed
12/28/2009 check $$ cashed
01/19/2010 bio competed
02/24/2010 case approved

Good luck to all



pansy

I am late sending my I-751, by about 8 months. what sort of excuse can I make for late filing? Can anyone help me.

I just forgot and was looking at my green card the other day and noticed that it has already expried.



JERRY

TINYTIM & FLEXMAN
Congratulation to both of you. Good luck with the married journey.
PANSY
8 months late that’s way to long according to some friends and other blogger. My advice you better seek legal advice from an attorney. I just heard yesterday got denied their I-751 for being late a week after the Temp GC expired.
At the mean time try to figure out the reason why it’s late…8 months? Probably you can tell them you never check your GC since you got it and didn’t intend to break the immigration law and ignore their policy or procedures. Wish you best of luck.
COPI
Thanks again and i will keep it posted. I hope they cash the check at least i know they looking into it. The last time they return the file and the check where i was surprised. Yes, i put all that and other bunch stuff but i forgot to put the letter they send me. wish me luck.



Jackyline Mitchell

Hi Wendy,

I am so glad that you saw the forum. You helped me so much with your response. By the way, why do think I would need a lawyer? I am going today to return my permanent resident card. I really appreciate your help.

Thanks so much



Wendy Tossal

Hi Jackyline,

Make sure to return your conditional residence card without delay. Also please remember to mail it with proof of mailing or signature upon delivery. You will then get another letter from USCIS which will show your status as pending final hearing for court proceeding. This is a very important letter and you must keep this in a safe place because the USCIS will not issue you a duplicate letter.

You will need a lawyer for the court hearing to represent you in court and fight your case in front of the immigration judge. The court date usually takes along time as they have so many cases that are being dealt with before yours. Remember it is up to the USCIS to prove to the immigration judge the bono fides of the marriage. All you have to proof is the following:

1. That you were legally married and that you were able to marry your husband i.e. copy of your previous marriage certificate. (and termination of any previous marriages if this applies to you).

2. Proof of your relationship during time married i.e., joint documents, home ownership/lease, joint bills, bank statements, photos etc.

3. Proof of divorcee proceeding i.e., that divorce had commenced

4. Proof of death certificate showing that your husband died during your divorce proceeding.

The judge will look at all the evidence and will approve your case as long as you have the things mentioned above. Also this very important every time the USCIS ask you send them any documents before the court hearing you only need to send a photo copy as per their request.

Always follow the USCIS instruction fully, this is were most people fail. By law the USCIS must inform you of any action that they take on your case, this is a legal requirement. You must also follow the requirements of the law and do exactly as the USCIS requestes of you.

I will be on this forum on a daily basis, so if you have further question I will be happy to answer them for you.



Copi

Hi Jacky,

I’m glad Wendy is sharing her experience with you given her case is similar to yours. As I have written, there is hope in your case giving that if the judge allows you to review and reconsider your case, he will probably instructs you to file a new I-751.

Having a lawyer with experience how to help make your case in front of the judge helps a lot. You should look into those pro bono lawyers in case you are short in money. (Again there is no requirement that you need to hire a lawyer, it’s just helps in this phase of your case.)

Wendy: Thanks for helping Jacky!

Have a nice rest of the day everyone!

-Copi



Copi

Cha,

the waiver is requested on form I-751, Part 2. Basis for Petition, check option (d.) “I entered into the marriage in good faith, but the marriage was terminated through divorce or annulment. ”

The instruction requires that you need to submit a copy of the divorce decree or other document terminating or annulling the marriage with your petition.

In you cover letter, you can write that you are submitting your I-751 with a waiver due to divorce.

You also need to send a copy of both sides of the I-551 (green card/conditional permanent card) as well as the example of evidence that the marriage was entered in good faith (bona fide). See the form instruction for examples of what you can submit to prove that.

Best of luck and keep us posted when you sent it so we can track its progress.

-Copi



Copi

Tinytim and Flexman: Congratulations on getting your case approved! Thanks for that update.

-Copi



Copi

Pansy,

I agree with Jerry. YOu need to hire a lawyer. Eight months is way too long, and you need to come up with a good explanation to be considered because being late is ground for denial. It’s up to the discretion of the USCIS director to accept the explanation or not. A lawyer maybe be able to make a case for you.

Hope that helps!

-Copi



Jackyline Mitchell

Hi Wendy,

It states at the bottom of my letter that return your permanent resident card immediatedly at the nearest USCIS office. I went there today but they close at 12 noon so I will come back tomorrow. I am confused if I should mail it or follow the letter and surrender it to the USCIS office.

Thanks



Copi

Jacky,

the bottom of your letter indicates:
“The conditional resident is hereby directed to immediately surrender their Alien Registration Card to their loal USCIS office.”

It doesn’t say specify how (e.g. mail or in person). If it’s not a long drive, in my opinion it will be better to return in person. Make a copy of it (both sides) for your own records. Also make sure they give you something in writing that you return it or that at least they record that in their system.

By the way, were you able to meet with the pro bono lawyer? Try to find out if one of them would come with you to help you.

Have a goodnite!

-Copi



Copi

Wendy,

how long did it take to get your notice to appear after surrending your I-551 (green card)? And how long in advance did they schedule your appointment for your court hearing in front of an immigration judge (i.e. weeks or months)? Some people have posted that it has taken al long time (over a year in some cases.)

Thanks for helping Jacky with your experience!

-Copi



Jackyline Mitchell

I am going to see the pro bono lawyer tomorrow. Thanks Copi. I am returning it in person since its close to where I live

Goodnight



Wendy Tossal

Hi Copi and Jackyline

I mailed mine to the nearest district office and received the letter about 4 weeks after mailing. I think that if you go in person then this is the same, just make sure you have made a info pass appointment before you go and take the original denial letter with you.

Then after about 6 weeks the USCIS asked for the death certificate and copies of one bank statement and lease to the apartment. Then I waited for the court date this was scheduled about 9 months after I surrendered my conditional green card.

On the day of the hearing I was represented by my lawyer, but I could have done this on my own as the immigration judge in marriage cases nearly always sides with the applicant and not the USCIS.

The judge asked me the following questions:

1. When did you marry?
2. May I see your marriage certificate(copy)
3. Your age?
4. Did you enter the USA with a marriage visa and adjust status?
5. May I see the original death certificate?
6. May I see your divorcee proceeding and the court at which you filed?
7. May I see your joint documents and any photos that you have?
8. How long have you been in the USA?

He then looked through the file that the USCIS had provided to the Judge. He then asked the USCIS what negative factors were preventing the USCIS from approving the case. The USCIS guy said some legal stuff and laws etc…..I’m not sure exactly what the legal stuff was but the judge order to approve my case as he found no element of fraud or misconduct. He gave me a temporary letter signed and stamped by him the same day. I then received my approval letter for the I-751 after 10 days and 5 days latter received my 10 years permanent resident card. Also the court hearing lasted only 25 minutes. My lawyer charged me $8, 500, but knowing what I know now I should have gone on my own as I had all the documents that the judge needed. Also the other people with denied I-751 cases also got approved and I was the only one who had a lawyer. So you don’t need a lawyer unless your cases if very complicated.



ronin

Got approval letter in mail yeaterday.

I file at vermont service center as joint with wife and they are processing quick.

mailed i-751 package 12/21/2009
Check cashed 12/25/2009
Notice from Vermont saying application received 12/28/2009
Finger prints notice received 12/29/2009
Finger completed 01/18/2010
Approval letter received 02/25/2010



katy

My case denied for insufficient evidence. I got married in 2006 and came to usa from Brazil, then get divorce from abusive husband and remarried in 2007.

My case is now denied and I do not want to stay in the USA any longer as it takes many years before the immigration service will sort this out. I want to leave the USA with my new husband he is from France and is in the USA for study only. He is a surgeon so I want to build my life in France with my husband.

My question is that can I return back to usa for short visits and holidays. I have many friends in the USA that I would want to visit from time to time. I no longer want permanent residence for USA.

Thank you for your help.



bartley

case approved from vermont. joint filing

i-751 sent 01/01/10
fp/bio 01/28/10
approved 02/24/10

Good luck to all still waiting



Sunny

Just got an email update from USCIS. Card production ordered on 02/26. I was getting a little worried because it has been over three months since I mailed out the Form I-751.

I wish all those still waiting good luck.



Sunny

My Updated Timeline (Vermont Service Center) –

Two-year GC will expire on 01/29/2010

Mailed I-751 on 11/10 (Married, filing jointly)

NOA and One-year extension – 11/20

Biometrics Letter – 12/12 (Appointment scheduled for 12/31)

Biometrics – 12/31

Card Production Ordered – 02/26



JERRY

KATY
As far as my understanding you still can visit US if you leave the country by the deadline they give you (Don’t over stay without permit to live in US), If you do, they can denied you to request for a visa since you are a Brazilian i assume, if you ended up getting France citizenship (which don’t need visa to visit US) they still can denied you to enter the country due to your over stay status in the passed.
What you can do, maybe appeal the case, short of taking time until your surgeon France husband finishing his study. You still have a right to stay as long you have on going case. I hope that help answer your question. Good luck

Jerry



JERRY

RONIN,BARTLEY, SUNNY
Congratulation to you guys. Thanks for updating to give us an idea the process and waiting period.
Have a good weekend all!

Jerry



marco

Is there anyway that I can check if they have sent the biometrics letter and did not get through the mail?
I am wondering if there is a way to find out about this kind old flaw?



Roger

Finally sent out more evidence. 96 photos, hope that’s enough. Seems like the processing time is faster in Vermont. My wife received her I-751 receipt on 2/16. We are still waiting for the notice for her biometrics from the CA branch.



JERRY

ROGER
Good luck while waiting. I think Vermont and Calif branch ain’t much different. Seem to me luck have a roll on this. We just sent our application yesterday. Around 50 photos. Hopefully things getting smooth.
Have a good weekend.
Jerry



Copi

• Roger: I haven’t received our biometrics either…this is the analysis I did a couple of weeks and still hold true. See my posting of Feb 18, 2010. It could take up to 3 weeks just to receive the letter…I got those ranges from looking at cases since December. So, should get them by March 9th (or before)…that is my guess. And the processing times are now pretty much the same for Vermont and California Service Centers. In the past year or so, it took longer if you had file at Vermont. We also sent about 90 photos when we sent the package.

• Jerry: best of luck. Please keep us informed when you receive the Notice of action (NOA, I-797-C).

• Marco: No, there is no way. Unfortunately, we have to wait for the biometrics letter and then we can use that receipt number to track our cases.

• Wendy – thanks for sharing that information.

• Jacky – what did the pro bono lawyer/organization advise you related to your case?

• Ronin & Bartley: Congratulations!

• Sunny: that is great news! By the way, before you receive the email that the card was sent to production, didn’t you received any notification that you case had been approved and conditions had been removed?

• Katy: if they denied your case, like Jacky you will need to surrender your conditional permanent card (I-551) and then you will appear in front of a judge where you can ask him to review your case. Did you file the I-751 with a waiver because you were battered or subjected to extreme cruelty”? Anyway, the judge either approves or denies. If he or she denies, then USCIS will instruct you by when you will have to leave the USA. I agree with Jerry, leave before or by the date given to depart the US. Best wishes in your new life in France.

Hope everybody is having a nice weekend!

-Copi



Jackyline Mitchell

Hi Copi,

What a bad day I had that friday…My car over heated and I was not able to see the lawyer. Reschedule for monday afternoon. I have to ask a friend to give me a ride because it is so important that I talk to the lawyer.

Thanks



Sunny

Copi,

No, I did not receive any notification that the case had been approved and conditions had been removed before I got the email on Friday. In fact I had checked the website around 12.00 non on Friday and it still had a status of “Initial Review”. Then after I got the email around 4.00pm I logged onto the website again and the status now says “Document Production or Oath Ceremony”.



Copi

Sunny,

thanks for the information. It seems that the “Initial Review” phase takes the longest…the other two subsequent are depending on whether they want more information and/or interview. If not, the other steps are more like milestones…(Decision, Post-Decision Activity, and then Document Production or Oath Ceremony). That’s good to know for us that are still waiting.

-Copi



Copi

Jacky,

sorry to hear about your car trouble on Friday. Were you able to go today?

-Copi



Cha

I getting ready to make copies of proof of evidence of marriage. As far as phone bills and bank statements, do i just makes copies of the whole bill or just the front pages of it? Also, he has several months of At&t phone bill, do i just make a copy of one months bills or all months??



Copi

Cha,

you can send as much as you would like. But since they want to see that you live together, you can send a statement every 3 or 6 months apart. I think what is more critical is that they see both of your names…so, in my opinion you can send the 1 and/or 2nd page. That was my approach.

Hope that helps!

-Copi



Cha

Copi,

Thanks it helps..



Sunny

Copi,

I received another email today stating that they mailed me a notice today (March 2) that they have approved the petition. So I guess you get the letter of approval and the card.



Copi

Sunny,

they have to notify you in writing that your case was approved. So, even though you saw some activity last week on the website, they needed to prepare the approved letter. (Not everybody tracks their cases online, so for those people who don’t, they still need to be notified.) So, you will probably received two letters. The approval and another one with the card. Thanks for the update.

-Copi



Copi

Jerry:

GREAT NEWS FOR YOU! Your case status have changed today and you are getting your green card!!!! Check online, but this is what I can see:

“Document production or Oath Ceremony”

“On March 2, 2010, we ordered production of your new card. Please allow 30 days for your card to be mailed to you. If we need something from you we will contact you. If you move before you receive the card, call customer service at 1-800-375-5283.”

Like Sunny, you will also be receiving an approval notice in the mail. Since it has been more than 2 years since the judge approved your case, your might be receiving the permanent card without conditions and you don’t need to go through the I-751 process. However, if they are sending you the conditional card, then let’s wait to see what date is included as the official date you became a permanent resident, and what other instructions they provide. Keep us posted!

Again, Congratulations! At least your case is no longer in limbo.

-Copi



Copi

Jerry,

FYI: Another update to your case:

“On March 2, 2010, we mailed you a notice that we have approved this I485 APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS. Please follow any instructions on the notice. If you move before you receive the notice, call customer service at 1-800-375-5283.”

Let’s me know what they tell you in that letter. I hope they give you the 10-year permanent card without conditions. If not, you will probably have to wait two more years if it is a conditional permanent card.

By the way, we received the same thing when our case was approved: 1. notification that the card was ordered, and 2. the notice that the I-485 had been approved. You will still received another notification that the card has been mailed to the address on file probably by next week.

Congratulations again!

-Copi



Roger

My wife received her biometric notice today, but the appointment on the notice was for yesterday! Has this happened to anyone else? I had to call USCIS and explain the situation. We put in a request to reschedule the appointment. Hope everything will be alright. Just more headache.



Sunny

Jerry,

Congratulations. I am sure it has been a long and frustrating wait for you. But thank God it is over now.

Copi,

I think they will probably give him a permanent (non conditional) card since he has been married for more than two years.



Copi

Roger,

yes , it has happened to us before (and to other people). We received the notice the day the appointment was scheduled for. We called and they told us to just go to the application support center (ASC). Even though you’ve already called to rescheduled it, it might not hurt to go tomorrow and bring the letter. That way your wife can go ahead and take her trip to Taiwan. All they need is your ASC # to link it to your case. Or your can wait for the reschedule.

By the way, that receipt number you got in this notice is the one you can use to track your case online.

I”ll let you know when we received our biometrics appointment.

-Copi



Copi

Sunny,

I agree with you that Jerry should be getting the 10-year permanent card. That would be great!

-Copi



Cha

Copi,

My finance is submitting his applicatiion and documents for I-751 tomorrow 3/5/10 due to the fact that he won’t be getting any money until then… His documents expire on 3/12/10. Do you think that he is cutting to short? What do you suggested that he does?



Copi

Cha,

it’s fine as it was sent prior to the expiration date. I would recommend you send it via express mail and they would receive it by Saturday or Monday. You can track it and see who signed for it. And I also paid for the certified mail receipt to have evidence it was stamped and signed when it was received.

Hope that helps!

-Copi



Cha

Okay… I was going to send it either UPS or FEDEX for either Saturdau or Monday delievery, can that work or send it the way you stated?

You have really been alot of help to me and him during this situation.. I will continue to keep you posted.



Copi

Cha,

as long as it gets delivered and you get assurance it got there, that’s what matters. Some of us chose USPS overnight because the package goes to a P.O. Box and it gets delivered. Sometimes, the other carriers don’t leave a package if they don’t get a signature.

And you’re welcome.

Have a nice day!

-Copi



JERRY

COPI
Thank you so much for letting me know. I have limited access to the Internet while on the road, first i did when i get on line to see how everybody doing with their case. And my wife can’t handle bad news. She was so worried i get kick out of the country. My wife told me yesterday the check we sent hasn’t cash out yet where made both of us nervous. I’m not sure it mean they by pass the I-751 process like you said. I will keep it posted as soon we receive the mail.
Again, thank you so much for everything (guidance & supports).
SUNNY
Thank you. Prayer definitely have an answer.
CHA
My wife sent our package via FEDEX Service. Probably that help your confidence to use FEDEX service. Like Copi said, i don’t think it matter what carrier you use as long it get there. The faster the better to cut the time. Good luck!



JERRY

COPI
If it said the I-485 Approved does it mean they talked about the first application when they about to approve the 2 years condition? Isn’t I-485 mean adjustment status base on admitted to the US as a refugee? I am a little bit confused with what they approved and what the case is.
Have a good night everyone and good luck to all of us still waiting.

Jerry



Copi

Jerry,

the I-485 is to adjust status and become a permanent resident. If you were married under two years when you filed and the I-485 is approved, then they adjust your status to permanent status without conditions. In your case, you filed your form a while ago and you’ve been married more than two years since it was approved, then their procedures indicate that they should adjust your status to permanent resident without no conditions. If that is the case, then you can withdraw your I-751. If they follow their procedures correctly before they send you the NOA for the I-751 they need to check that you meet the requirement for eligibility and check previous and outstanding cases. So, once you get your letter and permanent card, we should have a better idea. In any case, this approval is great. Keep me posted.

-Copi



Copi

Jerry,

I re-read my last response above and there are some typos I left as I was editing my response.

In short, if the I-485 is approved before your 2-year wedding anniversary, then you get conditional permanent residency. Otherwise, you get permanent residency with no conditions. Your status as permanent resident doesn’t expire; however, your card needs to be renewed every 10 years.

If you are interested in becoming a US Citizen (which I highly recommend), you can file the N-440 form after being a permanent resident for 3 years and at least being married for 3 years to the same person (who at least should be a US Citizen for 3 years). (Other permanent residents who are single or no longer married need to wait 5 years before they can file for citizenship/naturalization.)

-Copi



Jackyline Mitchell

Hi Copi and Everybody,

OMG these probono lawyers gave me an estimate charge to represent me in the court at least $3900.00 thats ridiculous.

Well here is the update of my case, I sent my green card through mail on March 1, 2010. Hopefully I will get my NTA soon.

I will keep you posted!



Copi

Hi Jacky,

that’s expensive…so much for being pro bono. Did they give you any advice as to how your case need to be handled? You might want to call another pro bono organization or keep asking questions to Wendy. From what she wrote, it seems you can do it yourself.

Keep us posted!

-Copi



JERRY

JACKY
Try Christian or Catholic pro bono probably they can give you a free service or at least free advices. I doubt as expensive as this called $3900 probono lawyer. Good luck to you.
COPI
I will keep it posted. Like you said seem we can determine what kind of deal they give me after i receive the card. We are married on January 2006 but we don’t file the case until July 2007 and case approved on Dec 2007. Technically we have been married for 4 years. I don’t know which date they use as a their time frame. Good luck to you as well until the case all final.

JERRY



Wendy Tossal

Hi, Jackyline

It’s Wendy again…..

Do NOT under any circumstances, do any of the following until your hearing in front of the Judge.

1. Do not work for any employer as your conditional permanent status has been terminated it is now illegal for you to work. If you are working you must stop immediately as this will be grounds that the USCIS will use to deport you from the USA.

2. Do not claim any social security, welfare payments, or government assisted programs like food aid, food stamps, unemployment or any other form of aid.

3. Do not remarry again as this will be used for marriage fraud.

4. Do not leave the USA as you will not be allowed to return back to the USA.

5. Do not file any other application or petition or re-file multiple applications as this will cause delays not only in processing but also the USCIS will take you $$$ and will deny all applications as your original I-751 was denied.

6. Do not commit any minor offences like traffic violations, because as you are now in deportation proceeding, if for example you are stopped by the Police for speeding, then your name will be on the Police/FBI computer system and you will be arrested and detained.

7. Do not lie or conceal any factual matter as the USCIS will use this as fraud.

These are the things that you must do.

1. Follow all instructions that you receive from the USCIS, and submit any evidence that they ask from you by the deadline date. Do not miss this date as you will not get another notification. If you do not have the evidence that they want then send them a reply saying that you don’t have that piece of document/evidence.

2. Try to live from your saving or ask family/ friends for help.

3. If possible take out a loan to cover your expenses or sell your personal possessions if possible.

4. Keep your neighbors, family and friends aware of your situation in case the USCIS send the immigration enforcement officers (ICE) to your home to arrest/deport you.

5. Keep all your documents in a safe and accessible place.

6. It can take anywhere from 8 months up to 3 years before your case is scheduled for a hearing in front of a Judge. You will not receive any notification after the scheduled date, so keep the USCIS informed within 10 days if you move to a different address.

I know your situation is difficult but you will prevail in the end, you just need to be strong physically and mentally. The USCIS likes to take its time when dealing with deportation cases as they know that many people will get frustrated and will either leave the USA voluntarily or will break the law and for example work in which case they have a solid case against you for breaking the immigration laws.

All is not lost, you will win in the end.



Copi

Roger,

we just received our biometric appointment today. It was also dated 2/26/2010 as yours. Our appointment is for 03/16/2010. I think this is what probably happened with yours was that there are less people in the Seattle-area ASC that need to have their biometrics taken and that’s why they put it there for Tuesday.

-Copi



Copi

To all:

update on our timeline:
• 02/08/2010 I-751 package mailed
• 02/09/2010 I-751 package received (entered into their system 02/10)
• 02/12/2010 check cleared (deposited 02/10)
• 02/16/2010 I-797C Notice of Action (NOA) received (prepared 02/10; mailed 02/11)
• 03/05/2010 2nd I-797C ASC Biometrics appointment received (prepared 02/26; mailed 03/02)
• 03/16/2010 Biometrics appointment (pending)

Have a nice weekend!

-Copi



Jackyline Mitchell

Hi Wendy,

I am currently employed right now and I am using my one year extension paper to my job. I don’t know what to do. I do not have any traffic violations. The only thing I am worry about is my job.
If you can email me directly at jackyline_mitchell@yahoo.com I have some things I want to discuss with you. What about my bank accounts and credit card accounts? I am really getting worried now.

Thank you



Jackyline Mitchell

Hi Wendy,

How will the USCIS know that I am working illegaly or getting an aid illegally?

Thanks



Roger

Hi Copi,

My wife’s biometric was actually prepared on 2/12 and mailed on 2/17, but we didn’t receive the mail until 3/3 and the appointment was for 3/2. Anyways, we requested to have the appointment rescheduled for after 4/3, as my wife will be back from Taiwan then.



Copi

Roger,

ok that’s actually much better given that your wife is leaving tomorrow. By the way, you do the request for the re-scheduling of the appointment with the local ASC office as opposed to the USCIS Service Center. So, I don’t think that is a problem. Now that you have the ASC notice, you can even go there when she is back. They just need that notice and the barcode to link it to your current case.

Have a nice evening!

-Copi



Copi

Jacky,

one way they can find out if you are working or receiving aid is because those monies get reported to the IRS with your social security number (as you pay taxes). They might not know right now, but by end of year when they send you the W2 forms.

By the way, even though you got a one-year extension when you filed your I-751, that extension ends when they make a decision about your case (i.e. approved or denied your petition). That was the reason they also asked you to surrender your conditional permanent (green) card.

Hope you can communicate with Wendy via email and ask her for advice given that both of you share a similar experience.

Have a nice evening!

-Copi



Copi

Jerry,

FYI: Document production or Oath Ceremony:
“On March 5, 2010, we mailed the new card directly to the address we have on file. You should receive your new card within 30 days. If you do not, or if you move before you get it, call customer service at 1-800-375-5283.”

Congrats! You had a great week! You should have it by next week! :)

When are you going back home?

Have a nice weekend!

-Copi



Leila

Jerry,

I had posted with a question in Feb about including passport pics, which you responded to. I appreciated the help. Sorry for the delay in thanks it was greatly appreciated!

All the best.

Leila.



Leila

Roger,

I’m bumbling this morning with my thanks. Forgive me for getting names wrong here. Thanks to Roger for the help!
Sorry for the mistake.

Leila



JERRY

COPI
Thanks for the update. Just had a chance to get online. I won’t be home until the 19th. My wife should inform me when the card get home. I will keep it posted as what they say in there (date or restriction)
LEILA
No problem, seem your case settle. Good luck!!!
EVERYONE
Have a bless weekend!

Jerry



Copi

Jerry,

ok. Have a nice weekend and drive safely.

Everyone else: likewise, have a nice like Jerry said….blessed weekend!

-Copi



Sunny

Received my ten year GC on Friday, 03/05.



Copi

Sunny,

Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By the way, did you also received the approval notice? I’m just curious. It doesn’t matter since the card is really what is important and you have it.

Have a nice day!

-Copi



Cha

Copi,
I finally submitted the paperwork on Friday by USPS for Monday Delivery by 3:00pm. It was sent to the Vermont Office, so we will wait to get a response back from them. My Finance was told that he could go into an Immigration Office and get an extenstion until he hears something back…Is this true and if so how can he go about getting this before his card actually expires on 3/12?



Copi

Cha

I would recommend your fiance wait for the notice of action (NOA, I-797-C). It takes about a week (or two) to receive it once they get your package. You can track that your package gets delivered by entering the tracking code on the USPS website, and also keep on an eye when the check is cashed/cleared. They usually ask you to wait like 30 days before they can give you any information about your case or extension. So, for now, just wait.

Have a goodnite!

-Copi



Wendy Tossal

Hi Jackyline Mitchell

Its Wendy,

As your conditional resident status is terminated you are no longer allowed to work or travel. If you continue to work the USCIS will use this against you as you are breaking the laws and this is one solid ground for deportation. The one year extension letter that they send is a temporary extension that they send to all applicants whilst they are processing the case and making a decision.

The decision that they made on your case is that your I-751 is denied. This means that they have decided that your marriage upon which you were granted conditional status to live, work and travel in the USA is no longer applicable to you. This decision they based on the immigrations laws that govern married couples, divorced filing single and also those whose spouse has died.

If you continue to work then your employer by law has to inform the USCIS that they are employing you on a legal basis. When you first got this job your employer took a photocopy of your conditional green card and filed out some forms to inform the USCIS that you are legally able to work. On those form you have to sign the declaration part stating that you have received authorization from the USCIS to work. Once your conditional status is cancelled this authorization is also cancelled and if you continue to work this is not only illegal but the USCIS will 100% use this against you for failing to comply with the law.

I URGE YOU TO PLEASE STOP WORKING NOW!!!!!

Once the USCIS makes a decision denying your application by law all rights that you were receiving as a conditional permanent resident stop from the date the USCIS director makes a decision on your case.

Remember that the USCIS does not care about your circumstances; they are only interested in complying with the law. This is how the process works. You file your I-751 they receive it and send you a receipt, then a bio-metrics appointment for finger printing. One this is completed the adjudicating officer looks at your application and the evidence that you have provided. If satisfied they approve the case, if not satisfied then:

Your file goes to his/her supervisor for further review. The supervisor will then see if they need more evidence from you and will wait to receive this. Once this is completed and they are still legal/fraud issues with your file, it goes to the USCIS legal unit who look at the requirements of the law. The legal department will draft a denial response and will forward this to the deputy director for the service center; he/she will again look at your case file to see if it can be proved without further action. If the deputy director determines that the case cannot be approved it will then go to the USCIS director for final review. The USCIS director has a lot of power and discretion to approve the case and will only deny on two grounds either marriage fraud or your case not complying fully with the legal requirement of the immigration laws.

Remember the USCIS has to prove the denial in front of the immigration judge. You do not have to prove the denial. You have to prove that you complied with the law.

I know that without work like everyone else and especially at this time when the economy is in a recession you can’t pay your bills etc. But unfortunately this is the law. When I was going through this luckily I had enough saving to support by self for the duration of my case until the hearing in front of the immigration judge. My case was scheduled after 9 months from when I returned my conditional green card, but it can take longer up to almost 3 years.

This is why I mentioned that you must be strong physically and mentally to deal with this, I do wish you the best. Also regarding credit cards and bank accounts you can keep those active as keeping bank accounts and credit cards is o.k. You ca also keep your driving license, membership to clubs etc. The only things you can’t do or claim is government related like work, claim benefits, government aid etc. Remember that your status now is like someone visiting the USA, which basically means you are not entitled to anything and have to pay for everything out of your own pocket.

I hope this helps!!



Cha

Copi,

Okay we will do that. I will continue to keep you posted.

Thxs



Sunny

Copi,

No I have not received the approval letter, but I expect I will get that sometime this week. Looks like they put the cart before the horse!



Copi

Sunny,

seems like it! In any case, you’re basically done. Now you can start studying for the citizenship test if you are interested so you can apply for toward the end of the year. :)

-Copi



Copi

Hello everyone!

Since we got the ASC appointment last week, we took that letter and did a walk-in at the ASC. We asked them if we could get them done today. They just told us that you just need to call ahead to make sure they are not too busy, and they took us in. They did the picture, thumb, and ten prints (10 fingers) and stamped the notice with today’s date. It’s important to have the ASC notice with you to make sure they link the biometrics to your current case.

Timeline update:
• 02/08/2010 I-751 package mailed
• 02/09/2010 I-751 package received (entered into their system 02/10)
• 02/12/2010 check cleared (deposited 02/10)
• 02/16/2010 I-797C Notice of Action (NOA) received (prepared 02/10; mailed 02/11)
• 03/05/2010 2nd I-797C ASC Biometrics appointment received (prepared 02/26; mailed 03/02)
• 03/08/2010 Biometrics taken/done (appointment for 03/16, walk-in: 03/08)

Have a nice day!

-Copi



Iain W

My wife sent me these pages and I have to say this is not working the way a system like this should work. That is to say, legally, predictably and with some degree of human compassion. It seems more as if the process has been outsourced and that there is an element of gleeful schadenfreud about how such decisions are communicated.
Our example: We were 6 days short of the legally required 2 years married time when I immigrated to the US. That means there is a condition on the green card that must be lifted.
On applying for the replacement green card we just did not notice that you have to get the condition lifted first. Not a huge mistake or problem one would have thought especially because I had paid for and gone through the biometrics routine. One would have expected a letter stating “Sorry, you cannot have a replacement without getting the conditional grant lifted first. Please apply again with the missing information.” Instead of which the letter, bristling with officialese, quoting frightful regulations and paragraphs pointed out that “You are so screwed. Pay another $580 dollars, supply the forms and we may, perhaps re-open your case.” So ridiculous and pompous and clearly a long step behind the official line that “communications to the General Public shall be clear and lacking excessive use of legalese or references to legal sources the recipient can reasonably be supposed to lack the first hand access of the agency making the administrative decision.”, and continues, “What shall be clear is the process to redress any mistakes that have been made.” Unfortunately that is not how it has been applied.
As a lawyer for 30 years I was appalled at the degree of scary language used to impress on the recipient that all hell was about to break loose. After having already spent 7 months and paid several thousand dollars in fees for lawyers, doctors etc. in London prior to receiving my “conditional” card, it struck me as daft of a domestic agency that it would consider it necessary to take such a desparate stand in the face of a minor problem. I mean, for goodness sake, I just forgot to send in one form. I´m a criminal for that?



Copi

Iain,

when we went to our interview two years ago, the immigration person told us that he was approving our case. Then, we received the conditional permanent card and I was like…what is this thing “conditional”? So after two years we basically have to prove again that we entered our marriage in bona fide.

Then, they mailed us a letter in January that we needed to file to remove conditions. I thought being proactive would help and went ahead to send our I-751 about two weeks the 90-day period. You would have thought that they would just accept it and keep for two weeks before processing. Instead, they sent the package back and they even paid priority mail to send it back. Definitely, there is a need for this whole process to be overhauled.

Were you able to file your I-751 with an explanation for late filing? Also, didn’t you receive a letter from USCIS notifying you that you needed to file form I-751 to remove conditions on your permanent residency? If not, too much for them following their own procedures.

-Copi



Jackyline Mitchell

Hi Copi and Wendy,

I have a very important thing that worries me the most, I am pregnant right now and will be due on first week of June. We are planning to get married but I don’t know if we should do it or not.

Thanks



Jackyline Mitchell

Hi Copi and Wendy,

I have a very important thing that worries me the most, I am pregnant right now and will be due on first week of June. We are planning to get married but I don’t know if we should do it or not.

Thanks



Copi

Jackie,

I’m not sure how much getting married or not at this point in time would affect your case either positively or negatively. Given that you case is on the premise that you file with a divorce waiver, it might affect you if you are married. Is the father of the baby a US citizen?

I strongly recommend to you that you need to run your case through an immigration lawyer to get the best advice on how to proceed because it’s complicated. We post here ideas of what to do, but we are not immigration lawyer. They have more experience how to deal with these type of complicated cases.

Hope that helps!

-Copi



Jackyline Mitchell

Yes,he is a US citizen.



Copi

Jacky,

first of all, independently of everything, congratulations on the news of your baby. I wish you the best to you and your baby.

About your case, it has become more complicated and I’m not sure how long it might take for your appointment with the immigration judge. Seek legal counsel about the options you may have and then you can decide what it’s best for you because I’m not sure if getting married may be perceived as trying to evade immigration laws. In any case, any decision has a level of risk and you want to make the best informed decision.

Hope that helps!

-Copi



JERRY

JACKY
If you already divorced i believe won’t be a problem for you to get remarried. The only thing i don’t think you can file a new case even though your husband is a US Citizen before your old case settle. Like COPI said probably you better ask immigration lawyer about that. Good luck to you i hope something good come out soon.
COPI
My wife called she said we got the mail with the card inside. And it’s 10 years. But we didn’t receive the NOA. The card mailed out on the 2nd and the check cashed out on the 6th (I-751 application fee). At this point the most important we got the card. Between we sent documents, documents delivered, processed and received the card seem total about 2 weeks (16 days). Take care and God bless.

JERRY



Wendy Tossal

Hi Jacky,

Its Wendy

First of all congratulations!!!

Having a baby is always great news and I wish you and your baby all the happiness for the future.

Now for the tricky part…as you filed your I-751 in November 2009 and then submitted the divorcee proceeding and during which time your husband died so you then submitted the death certificate.

If you are expecting delivery of your baby in June 2010 then you must have conceived in or around September/October 2009. This means that you were still married at the time of getting pregnant. This is a fact and you can’t hide this from the USCIS as when you do deliver your baby regardless of the fact that you get married or not the USCIS will use this for marriage fraud purposes. I know that this probably sounds harsh but I’m being truthful to you, as the whole purpose of the I-751 is for the USCIS to re-examine the bona fides of your marriage and its legitimacy. i.e. are you living together as husband and wife?

Even if you claim that you separated from your husband and then fell in love with someone and got pregnant whilst your divorce was ongoing this still doesn’t help your case. The USCIS looks very carefully in to marriage fraud and women who become pregnant to evade the immigration laws. Also during the time of your divorcee proceedings you were still legally married to your husband as the divorce court had not granted a final divorce decree which in turn the USCIS will use in front of the immigration Judge to state that you committed Adultery during the time that you were married.

Even if the baby’s father is a US citizen and you get married at this stage this will further damage your case, because the USCIS has denied your I-751. Any marriage at this time to any US citizen will be regarded as circumventing the immigration laws to remain in the USA. You case is very complicated from a legal perspective and re-marrying will only make things more complicated.

The only viable option is to restart the process from your home country. As you will need to prove that you never had the intention of evading the immigration laws of the USA. Returning back to your home country would prove this, also since the father of the child is a US citizen he can sponsor you for a fiancée visa which takes less time and less cost. As you are getting close to your delivery time it would be best to travel as early as you can back to your home country. Once your baby is born you can register the birth abroad at any US consulate and as the father is a US citizen the child will automatically become a US citizen. Only file for a fiancée visa as the processing for this takes less time and you would be back is the USA on a legal basis in less than 6 months. Also once you return to the USA you should then get married as you will have a valid visa that will allow you marry your US citizen sponsor. After this you will get the conditional green card and after two years of marriage will need to file the I-751 again to get the conditions removed.

I would have told you to remain in the US until your hearing date in front of the immigration judge but I know that you will not win. I have seen cases that are lost just on technicality also the immigration judges are very smart people they don’t like to see people get deported especially if they have been living in the US for some time. However, judges also tend to look at the morality of people and marriage fraud cases and there are so many documented cases that judges have denied and people have been deported. Also the cost to go to court with an experienced lawyer will be in the thousands of $$$$$$. The USCIS has more evidence against you not only because you are now pregnant but also because you don’t have any legal status as your I-751 was denied.

I did some research yesterday before sending you this response and this seems the best solution given your present circumstances. Since I have been through this process I have seen many cases denied and people deported even those with children. Most people might think that the USCIS can’t deport me I have a child that is a US citizen, but this is far from the truth. The USCIS looks at the immigration laws as mandated by congress. There are no legal grounds in which people can remain in the USA if they have children and although your child will have every legal right and protection as the father is a US citizen you unfortunately will not have those rights and privileges. It is best to stay within the guidelines of the immigration laws and I hope you will be able to make the right decision in life. I hope the best for you and your baby and once again congratulation!!!

Please let me know if you have any further questions. Also do consult with a well experienced immigration lawyer who will probably tell you that your chances are much better if you restart the process from your own country.



Copi

Jerry,

Congratulations! I know it was frustrating, but at the end it paid off. You’re done! Pray for us who are still waiting. :)

As for your I-751, you might want to call/write to them that you need to withdraw your petition because your I-485 finally was approved and received a 10-year permanent card, and you no longer need nor are eligible to continue with the I-751. You can even ask if they can reimburse you the $540.

Again…Congratulations!

-Copi



Copi

Jerry,

about your NOA (I-797-C), if the check just cleared, the NOA might be on its way. In the check they wrote the receipt number. If you can see a digitized copy of the check, you might be able to see the receipt number when you contact them. If not, just wait…it will come. All you have to do is just withdraw that petition.

-Copi



Jane Finley

I agree with Wendy

I also had my i-751 denied and had filed for divorce waiver. I was in the process of getting divorced and I fell in love with someone at my workplace. I was not pregnant and after my divorce was finalized I left the USA and went back to Venezuela. My US citizen boy friend then sponsored me and I came back to the USA after 4 months. I traveled on a fiancée visa which allowed me to marry my US boyfriend legally when I was back in the USA. I also didn’t want to leave the USA when my i-751 was denied but I’m so happy I did. I left the US voluntarily before the uscis could deport me. If had been deported I would not be able to return or apply for visa for 10 years.

So Jacky it is best to leave before you get deported as you can return legally and then get married. If you get deported you will not be able to return for 10years.

Jane



Jane Finley

After two years of marriage I applied for i-751 and got it approved in November 2009. I also have 2 children from my second marriage.



Babara

my case approved

joint husband & wife application

sent to vermont

01/16/10 i-751 sent
01/19/10 $$ taken from account
02/10/10 fp bio-metrics completed
03/09/10 got approval notice

now waiting for 10 year green card in mail

Good luck to everyone still waiting



Copi

Jane and Barbara: Congratulations on getting your cases approved!

-Copi



Abdul Tariq

I am posting this to let you know my case is approved.

I file at vermont wiht my US citizen wife.

01/10/10 forms sent to vermont
01/15/10 fee taken from bank
01/17/10 Notice of action
01/19/10 bio appointment
02/15/10 bio done and form stamped
03/05/10 approval letter
03/11/10 just got 10 year card in mail today

God Bless everyone and good luck to all those still waiting.



Copi

Abdul: Congratulations…it’s great to see that another case has been approved. Thanks for sharing your timeline, too, as that gives us an idea of how long it’s taking in 2010.

-Copi



JERRY

COPI
Do you think withdraw the petition is necessary? Or could become hassle later down the road when i apply for I-440 if i don’t? I just don’t want anymore headache. It’s worth to write them piece of paper to ask my $ back :)
You should receive your card soon.
I wish good luck to everyone. God bless.

Jerry



Cheryl K

I will soon be submitting my I-751 application. I have been married to a US citizen going on 4 yrs now but for the past year my husband was transferred to work in a town a couple of hours away where he has stayed with family and comes home to me on weekends where we have a lease together. I’m a little worried about this situation because he is not at home all the time. We have no kids yet. Anyone experience something like this?



Copi

Jerry,

you can write them and send them a copy of your permanent card to explain why you withdrawing your I-751 petition because you are no longer eligible for that. If your leave it there, they will continue scheduling your biometrics, potential interview, and eventually they will deny it, which could become a big headache. You can explain to them that at the time of filing your I-751, your I-485 finally got approved and your received a 10-year green card and no longer need to remove conditions. And lastly, tell them for a refund…it doesn’t hurt to ask. :)

By the way, what is the date on the card when you became a permanent resident. If it shows December 2007, then you can apply for the N-400 by year end. If it shows March 2010, then you will need to wait 3 years.

Drive safely,

-Copi



Copi

Cheryl,

you’re fine. Some people need to travel and being away from home for business/work reasons, which seems to be the case with your husband. If that’s the only reason, you shouldn’t be concerned.

What is critical is to make sure your current address is your primary home for both of you, the lease is in both of your names, including bills and your financial stuff. And that you have pictures of both of you in family and friends events (or any public events).

You can see what some of us have submitted as evidence.

Hope that helps!

-Copi



Roger

Cheryl,

Because of work, I also have to live away form my wife and only sees her during the weekend. Like Copi said, it shouldn’t be a problem. Just follow his advice and submit the evidences. Good luck.



Naomi Phillips

My case approved from Vermont

filing as single divorce waiver

apporved without interview

01/04/10 sent out i-751 + evidence + divorcee certificate
01/07/10 check cashed by USCIS
01/11/10 got notice of action letter in mail
01/12/10 got appointment letter for bio-metrics
02/03/10 completed bio-metrics
03/05/10 got approval letter
03/10/10 got 10 year green card

Thank God this over!!!

God Bless you all God bless America and my prays go out to everyone still going through this process.



Marcus Delavaga

My case approved from California

01/26/10 i-75 form mailed
01/29/10 notice of action
01/29/10 bio letter
02/12/10 bio done
03/05/10 approval
03/11/10 10 year green card

filing joint with wife

Good luck to all still waiting



tanya

My case just got denied form vermont service center.

I file i-751 with my husband. We have been married 4 years but don’t have joint bank account, home ownership, credit cards etc…

My husband has everything in his name. i got married and wanted to be housewife, so I only have SS card but I have never worked. My husband pays all the bills and we didn’t see the need to have joint documents as i am housewife and my husband takes care of me.

we have only photos together so we sent this to prove our marriage but yesterday my case got denied for lack of evidence.

I don’t have any evidence to give to the immigration service. can someone help me with this situation?

thank you



Aiesha Kanduchandra

Case is approved from vermont

We file together as joint application

01/04/2010 i-751 application sent
01/07/2010 money is taken from bank
01/13/2010 first letter action notice
01/19/2010 second letter bio appointment
02/10/2010 bio completed
03/02/2010 case approved
03/10/2010 10 year card

Thank you for this forum and good luck all!!!



Daniel Conowena

My i-751 originally sent to vermont

I file in February 2009. Then my file is sent to Nebraska. I waited and waited for response from uscis.

Then yesterday got notice from California that my case is apporved. I think that they have moved alot of cases to different service centers so some people are waiting very long before they get final decision. Also I check the website and Nebraska and Texas is also now processing i-751 cases, so if your case is taking long time then I think your file has been moved to different service center.

just thought i keep you guys informed.

Good luck to all..



Fedui samboraso

Thank you Daniel

My case also got apporved on 03.09.10. I sent my case to vermont in April 2009. they sent notice to say it was being moved to Nebraska for processing in July 2009. Then I just waited and fianlly it got approved from Texas service center. Your right Daniel the uscis is moving alot of the case load to other centers. Also i think those that are sending their i-751 forms now are getting completed much sooner than those than filed earlier. the system is not fair but at at least my case got approved.

God Bless you all.



katarina kalmovick

I filed my i-751 in October 2009 @ vermont. i have not heard anything after bio was done. Is anyone who filed i-751 still waiting for apporval. please let me know?

thank you.



madison

I file at vermont in November 2009. I’m also waiting since by bio was completed in December 2009. Why is uscis processing and completeing new i-751 from 2010 and not the people who filed before them in 2009?

have they moved my file? Will I be waiting for long time?

this is not fair as we wait every day for approval and those who file after me get approval before me.

anyone else in same situation, looks like everyone is being approved except me!!!



laura baldwin

case was approved yesterday at CSS

01/15/10 i-751 sent
01/19/10 check is cashed
01/21/10 notice of action
01/22/10 bio appointment
02/11/10 bio completed
03/08/10 approved
03/11/10 10 year card

we filed jointly

Good Luck everyone



Tara Williams

i have interview regarding my i-751 case at local uscis office in New York in April. can anyone tell me the type of questions they will ask?

I was married in 2001 and got divorced in 2002. Since this time my i-751 is pending. Now they call me for interview after all this time. Can someone help me with the type of question they will ask me. I have not re-married and have worked 2 jobs to support my self.

Thank you in advance for your help and may God bless you all.



Copi

Katarina and Madison,

you can track your cases on line with the receipt number of your ASC notice. Also, give them a call to see what is going on. I’ve been noticing that cases in 2010 have been approved between 6-10 weeks.

Hope that helps!

-Copi



Anthony Bexhall

Some insider info to all those who filed i-751. I filed my case in August 2009 at Vermont and it should have been approved by now i.e. the 6 months as posted on the uscis website.

But NO!!! in some weeks/months the uscis centers are getting more application than they are able to process so they are moving their work load to other centers. This sounds great, but No the service centers that are taking these applications are starting the processing again from the time they get the shipment of cases, so more time is added to the processing. I contacted Vermont to find out about my application and they told my case file has been sent to Texas for processing. Texas is the slowest service center in the entire uscis network so I’m expecting that my case will not be approved for at least another 6 months to a year.

The system is bullshit and now I have to wait and worry that my file gets there safely. Also I can’t track my file so if it gets lost then I won’t know for months or even years until the uscis informs me.

I hate the uscis with a passion as all that it does is cause misery to peoples lives. All those who filed after me in 2010 and are getting approved, congratulations to you all. I wish everyone gets approved quickly and fairly in a timely manner.

May God Bless You All



Copi

Naomi, Marcus, Aiesha, Daniel, Fedui, and Laura: Congratulations on getting your cases approved!

-Copi



Copi

Tanya,

so, what did you submit as evidence? Nothing? Were you sent a request for evidence (RFE)?

Do you have health, life, home, or auto insurances under both of your name. What about the income tax returns? Even if you didn’t work, you should be able to show that you filed jointly with your husband. Also, did you provide affidavits of friends or acquaintances?

The bills are only one type of evidence you can provide, but they are not the only type of information. if you look in their instructions they give you examples. In fact, why don’t you and your husband spend a couple of hours calling those utilities and insurances companies and get your as a joint account person? You can also go to the DMV and get your current car(s) under both of your names, and the bank and get your name as joint owner.

Ideally that would have been done before you filed your I-751, but it doesn’t hurt to start now. You would like to have that ready before you get your hearing in front of an immigration judge. You need to be prepared. Additionally, you might want to consider hiring an immigration lawyer to come with you to your hearing.

Hope that helps!

-Copi



Copi

Tara,

the interview shouldn’t be much different from the one you had with your husband. In this case, it’s just you, so the questions will be related to information your provided when you lived together that demonstrate a bona fide marriage; the divorce decree, etc.. There is really no defined set of questions, but it’s basically related to you current case. So, bring the information you provided, as well as other information that demonstrate you entered the marriage in good faith, the final divorce decree, etc..

Hope that helps!

-Copi



marco

Hello guys,
congrats for people with approved applications and good luck for those waiting like me.
I thank everyone especially Copi.
I have a question about the citizenship application. I filed I-751 and now waiting for the process. Let’s say I get the 10 year GC and next year if I apply for citizenship because I am still with my love would they going to approve my naturalization knowing that I haven’t registered with Selective services because I came in to this country as F1 visa holder????
I was told that because I did not register with selective services ( well, I was international student) I won’t be able to be naturalized until I turn 31 years old????
is that true???



marco

one question: do I need to let USCIS know after the biometrics are take?
do I need to talk to someone or send a copy to USCIS let them know I did the biometrics.??
where do I check application status?
Thank you



JERRY

COPI
Thanks for all the input. Is that filing I-751 is necessary even though they gave me 10 years? (Or 10 years card meaning automatically unconditional) I called my wife she said the card issues in March 2nd 2010 expire in 2020. Meaning i have to wait 3 more years before i can apply for N-400. However the check for I-751 cashed in 8th (almost a week later), seem they go ahead process the I-751 application after issue the 10 years card (or they just want to cashed the check out).
Is it statement is enough or they have some kind of form for it? (e.I-… to withdraw the I-751)
Good luck to you copi (are you still waiting for the card?). Thanks, i won’t be home until next week, gotta go toward west coast before heading back home (east coast). God bless.
TANYA
Maybe your husband can make a statement state the situation (you both never thought to have a joint….for evidence purposes). Affidavit from his family and friends it’s a plus explain that you are very much just stay home as a house wife and have been stayed married for 4 years. That’s all i can think off and good luck
ANTHONY BEXHALL
Sorry to heard the long delay on your case. Keep going to the local USCIS office to ask what’s going on and keep the copy of your appointment and make a little note which officer you spoke too that day as a evidence you try followed up your case. And ask for them to put stamp in your passport as a I-551 evidence. Good luck
CONGRATULATION to those already approved and got their card (waiting) and
GOOD LUCK for those still in process.

Good night.

Jerry



Copi

Marco,

are you 26 years old or older? I don’t know if that will affects you, but these are their instructions on the N-400:

• If you answered “YES,” but you did not register with the Selective Service System and are still under 26 years of age, you must register before you apply for naturalization, so that you can complete the information below:
• If you answered “YES,” but you did not register with the Selective Service and you are now 26 years old or older, attach a statement explaining why you did not register.

“Answering “Yes” to one of these questions does not always cause an application to be denied. For more information on eligibility, see the Guide.”

About your biometrics, you don’t need to inform USCIS. When you had them taken, they scan the barcode on the ASC note to link them to your case.

Hope that helps!

-Copi



Copi

Jerry,

I found this for you:
“A petitioner or applicant may withdraw a petition or application prior to adjudication. Withdrawal is a voluntary action. It should not be coerced, although it may be suggested as an alternative to a formal denial. Whenever a withdrawal is received, it should be acknowledged, in writing, for the record. ”

In your case, include in your letter that your are withdrawing your I-751 because you are now a permanent resident with no conditions. Explain that you received your permanent card at the same time they receive your I-751. Include a copy of your NOA and a copy of your permanent card. And also include a request to be reimbursed, if possible.

About applying for naturalization, you will have to wait another 3 years. Don’t worry, time flies. I think the most important thing is that you are now a permanent resident with NO conditions. :)

Hope that helps and safe traveling across the country!

Copi



Copi

Jerry,

yes, we are still waiting for the approval. It’s been barely a month since we submitted. We just had the biometrics taken this past Monday. So, probably another 2-4 weeks.

-Copi



JERRY

COPI
I will do that then as soon i get home. At this time is that necessary both of us to sign it? I assume i have to send this withdraw letter to Vermont (I-751 sent).
Just got in NM. Weather is nice seem winter is over. Enjoy the rest of the weekend.
Have a blessed weekend everyone.

Jerry



JERRY

COPI
I am not sure if i mention that we got the NOA 2 days after we got the card. I’m not sure what they said in it. My wife didn’t open it yet. Thanks for all the help and happy waiting to you.
EVERYONE
Good luck, hope the process won’t be complicated.

Jerry



Copi

Jerry,

I don’t think they would care so much if it signed by one or both of you. But, just to be safe, you might want to sign together. The NOA is just a standard form stating that your conditional residence has been extended for 1 more year, etc..

Take care, safe driving, and God bless you, too.

-Copi



marco

Copi,
I appreciate your input and thank you on behalf of the “on the same boat” community.
Yes I am over 26years old and I have the proof from selective services that I entered the country as international student and did not have to register with them.
I guess it is not gonna be a problem….
best wishes,

Marco



marco

Copi
One thing is this particular question applies to me? should I put yes or no? I did not really get it.
are you male who lives in US any time between 18 and 26 year birthday under any status except as lawful non immigrant?????
I entered the country as international student when i was 25 years old but got a proof from the selective services in 2008 that i did not register cause I was nonimmigrant at that time…
so in the above question should I answer NO cause i was lawful nonimmigrant or YES cause i didnot register………
pretty confusing….



Copi

Marco,

that sentece seems pretty bad worded. I take it is now because we can’t break it into two:

1. are you male who lives in US any time between 18 and 26 year birthday under any status ….the answer would have been YES.

However, it has 2. “except as lawful non immigrant?” which you meet, so, I think the answer is No.

Maybe someone else can give you their interpretation.

Hope that helps!

-Copi



Copi

Marco,

I meant that we can break the sentence into two phrases…and the answer seems to be no.

Hope that helps!

-Copi



Jerry

COPI
Hi, how’s your weekend? I just learned from my wife one of the letter USCIS sent is advising us to apply for I-751. So the 10GC they sent nothing to do with the application we sent to them (GC Based on I-485). Is that mean that 10 GC still conditionally? Kind of awkward for them to do that since the check already cashed :). Check cashed for I-751 does it mean application received? Or even processed by now? What condition on it anyway when they said conditional GC? Thanks, sorry i throw so much question at once. I still work on my way back. The business have been so slow in trucking industry make it harder for us to get a load. This my 3rd weeks out and still 5 days away from home. Ok…wish every one good luck and enjoy the rest of the week.

Jerry



Cha

Copi,

Is there a website that my Fiance can track his case? He called USCIS and they told him he has to wait 30days before they can tell him anything. His package was delivered on 3/8/2010. We sent a money order, so we have no way of knowing if it was deposited or cash unless we call western union directly and give them the money order numbers.. Please



Sonia

Copi,

Since you seem to know a lot about Immigration I have questions to you and to everyone that it is in this blog.

When my husband and I filled the I-485 in may of 2007, on the part 1 – Information about you – where the ask the family name, I put my dad’s last name when was supposed to be my husband’s last name (I added his last name when we got married).

My 2 years Permanent Resident Card expires in July 23, 2010, but I am already preparing the documents that I will submit to USCIS by the end of April 2010.

My questions is: Can I request the USCIS to add my husband’s last name, so I can have my 10 years “green card” under his last name when they approve my I-751 form?

I know that I could have used the I-90 form to request the USCIS to correct my name, but I didn’t do that because I want to travel to Brazil to see my family and didn’t want to return my “Green Card” to them in order to have my name changed. I was afraid that this process could take longer and I would not be able to travel overseas to see my family, so I decided that I would request the change when filling the I-751 form.

Do you think if I request it now I will hurt my case and the USCIS can delay to process my case or even deny it?

I called them and the representative told me that I can ask the USCIS to change/add my last name, but I don’t know if should trust on her. I don’t want to hurt my case or even cause confusion to the Immigration process. What should I do? What is the most correct thing to do in my case?

Another thing, I only have affidavits from family and friends from my church, checking and savings accounts in our both names, health insurance, Taxes filled jointly, IRS Tax Revenue correspondence in our both names, cards received from family on the last 3 years and photos of us and photos with family members here and in Brazil indicating that our marriage was entered in “good faith”. I also have alot of correspondence from doctor’s offices and from credicard companies offering me credit cards.

I don’t have tone of documents in both names, but I have some that are important.

Do you think those documents are enough to prove our marriage?

Please help me!!!

Thank you,
Sonia



Copi

Jerry,

weekend was nice. Thanks!

There is no conditional 10-year GC that I have heard of. I think what happened in your case is that several communications from the USCIS were sent that were not coordinated. Prior to applying for the I-751, we also got a reminder in the mail that we needed to apply to remove conditions.

I would recommend you call them on Friday when you get home and explain your situation and what you are planning on doing it. For example, you can explain to them that:
• “We just received a 10-year GC for my I-485 application that was still in review. A few days prior to that I had sent a I-751 given that we had not received a conditional green card at all since the judge approved our case about two year ago. We also received a reminder to file the I-751. However, we don’t think that is needed. Can I just withdraw my I-751 petition over the phone or in writing given that I have my 10-year card (with no conditions) or what do you recommend?” That should help clarify what to do.

If the check cashed, then the I-751 form was received and is being processed. I noticed Vermont is having some delays again and it’s taking longer for people to receive their NOAs. If you have access to your checks online, on the back of the check they wrote the receipt number. You can reference that number when you write to them.

Hope that helps and a couple of more days for you to be home! :)

-Copi



Copi

Cha,

unfortunately, until you don’t get your ASC appointment for the biometrics, you can’t track the case. I’ve been noticing that Vermont is having some delays and other people who have sent their I-751 have not received their NOA yet. I’d recommend you wait another week.

-Copi



Copi

Sonia,

I am not an immigration lawyer. I know some because research I’ve done while we also filed the I-485 and now I-751. So, the advice I provide is suggestions on how to proceed and I always tell people that if they would like a more formal answer to consult with an immigration lawyer.

About your question, the ideal thing would have been you had filed the I-90 to take into account the name change. At this point in time, even if you were to file it, it would take a couple of months to get processed. (I know this because when we got our conditional green card we noticed they used the maiden name as opposed to the married name. They asked us to file the I-90 and it took from May till July to get it done.) I think what you can do is when you file your I-751 in Part 1 to include your married name. In part 3, there is a section where you can list other names (including maiden names) you have used). I would also recommend that in the cover letter you include a note that you are filing now with your married name (and not the maiden name as shown in the GC). I think what also will help is if your name in your driver’s license has already been changed or any of your other correspondence.

I think the information you are planning on sending is fine. We also didn’t have much information. I think what is key is to being able to demonstrate you live together and that you have combined much of your assets/liabilities as what they would expect a normal couple to do.

Hope that helps!

-Copi



Sonia

Copi,

Thank you for your help. I will do that. I was reading another blog where I saw a case that a person asked Immigration to change her last name using the I-751 form and te USCIS granted her request and changed her name without causing her any problem at all.

Like I said I talked with a USCIS representative and she said me that I can do this now If I want.

I am putting together every piece of document we have on both names and I will also send tone of photos of us and with family etc.

I will send my package out to Vermont Service center.

What should I use or do to hold all the papers together in a way that they don’t fall apart and I don’t miss any of them?

I also want to make the Immigration work a little easy, so they cand find any information they need from us quickly.

I will send around 400 or more pages to make my case strong and even doing that we never know what to expect from USCIS.

Thanks again for your help and keep helping me. :)

Sonia



Jerry

COPI
I hope you enjoy your weekend. I got home this morning after nearly a month out. but have to get going tonight to Bronx,NY make my delivery but will go back straight toward the house from there :)
Here the update with USCIS letters.
02/25 I-751 form and documents sent
02/26 received
03/02 I-485 Approved by Texas field office (after over 3 years delay and no GC)
03/02 Card ordered
03/05 NOA I-797C received (from texas for I-485 approved)
03/05 Card mailed
03/06 Check cashed for I-751 (per bank record)
03/08 Card received (Resident dated since 12/13/07 and card expires 03/02/20). Basically 13 years GC :)
03/12 NOA I-797C received from Vermont stated I-751 receipt notice
03/18 NOA I-797 Biometric request
It’s confusing, seem the field offices even though the same government agency they are not link to each other. I hope this give an idea to some people out there where their case might still in limbo. My advice don’t give up especially do not take negative step/solution to solve it. Keep ask the USCIS or your attorney (if you hired one) where and how far your case progress. Also documented every calls or visit you made. It will give you an idea if they gave you the right answer and show it that you have been trying to follow up your case.
Good luck everyone and enjoy the rest of the weekend.
Copi, i will update when i call monday.

Jerry



Jerry

SONIA
we used those big paper clip which held our 200 pages documents, and those tiny plastic thing you can stick at the end of your file and write a little note at the outer side to separate between one file and the others.We bought it from wal-mart. ex, taxes, utility bills, insurance, etc. Sorry, i wish i could explained it better :) i hope that help. Good luck!

Jerry



robert

i-751 sent on 3rd Jan 2010 (priority overnight)
Check cased on 5th Jan
Received receipt (NOA) + 1 year extension two weeks later.
Biometrics set for 9th Feb 2010
received Approval letter on 6th March
Received G.C 9th March.

Good luck to y’all still in the process.



Sonia

Jerry,

Thanks for your sugestion. I need as many suggestion possible in order to make my case very organized and easy to find informations.

I would like to attach every piece of paper in a way that the USCIS’s representative doesn’t miss any of my document.

Can I make 2 or 3 hole punch and use a binder hole punch in order to have all my documents organized and attached?

If I do that I don’t think Immigration will miss any of my papers when cheking them.

Do you have any ideia If I can do that?

Other people on this blog are also welcome to discuss this with me.

Thanks Jerry and I will be waiting for you answer.

Sonia



cynthia

Hi All,

Anyone filed in CA ( Feb 16th 2010 or later) received their biometrics or any other notices? I wanted to know CA timeframe …It looks like VT is much faster approving cases. Any comments much appreciated. Thanks.



cynthia

Has anyone been able to successfully create a case status online to track their I-751? I have been trying to do that ever since I received my I-797C NOA Receipt four weeks ago. USCIS website says that it is invalid…



JERRY

SONIA
It should not be a problem if you think that way more convenience for you. That was our first plan but then we changes to that clip. I heard a friend use binder before to hold their documents. I think it’s also important the way you lay your documents In another word put first what you think they should looking for. Example, after copy of the I-551, our married license, our son birth certificate, health insurance then we put our tax (3 years), copies of tickets when we travel together, and so on. Personally, i have doubt they go thru each page of this documents. The pictures we sent them also as our silent witnesses. Reading this 200-400 pages it’s just like reading a fine print from a credit company :), something i never really pay attention to.
Good luck and happy waiting.

Jerry



JERRY

CHYNTIA
Seem luck play on this. I am not saying people filed in California less luck. A friend filed I-751 in CA and sent limited evidence got their G C within 6 weeks total. Ours have been in a limbo for a while due to the I-485 been in processed for over 3 years, thanks God it didn’t turn to disaster. We filed in Vermont.
I created the account 2 months ago. Somehow i can’t get in. I used the same ID and PIN for everything. Seem we got the same problem. It did ask my security question, then it said it didn’t match with their record. I use my own son name as an answer…it can’t be missed :) Maybe it just the system having problems.

Jerry



Copi

Sonia,

I organized the information by separating them with a colored paper and stapling the information per sections (as per their instructions). Some people choose to send binders and folders, but I think when they received them, they remove all the documents from the binders/folders. They two-hole punched them and inserted a metal clip. I guess that is how they are processed for the reviewer. I know of that because they had returned my package back and they had removed the folder where I had included my photos. By the way, if you send photos, make sure you glue them or print them on the paper. Also, I included a summarized list of all documents sent which was attached to the cover letter.

Hope that helps!

-Copi



Copi

Cynthia,

We filed during the week of Feb 8th. We received the first I-797-C Notice of Action (NOA) on Feb 16th, and the second one for the Biometrics at the ASC on March 5th.

The receipt number you received in the first I-797-C (NOA) is not for good for online tracking purposes. That’s why it is not found and when you entered it in the website it indicates is invalid. Unfortunately, you need to wait for the second I-797-C notice for your biometrics. That is the number you can use to track your case. It could take up to 3 weeks from the time you receive your first NOA. By the way, you don’t need to create an account. You can just enter the receipt number and it will show you the status. The ID is needed if you would like to get email or text messages reminders.

By the way, California Service Center (CSC) is still faster than Vermont Service Center (VSC). Vermont seemed to have picked up a little, but they are still processing December cases, whereas CSC is already doing January at a much faster rate. In general, if you don’t hear from them in a 30-day period, you should give them a call….but overall it takes time.

Hope that helps!

-Copi



Copi

Robert: Congratulations on getting your case approved! Where did you send your I-751, California or Vermont Service Center?

Thanks!

-Copi



Copi

Jerry,

welcome back home! I hope you can spend a few days there before you head out again.

Unfortunately, they don’t seem to have their systems all synchronized. This might be also because each form might be processed at different locations. Same thing seems to happen with banks.

The good news is that they are counting your permanent residence since the judge approved it in 2007. That’s good news because you can apply for naturalization starting 9/13/2010 (90-days before you 3rd year as a permanent resident). :)

I think a quick call to USCIS tomorrow might help how to proceed to stop the I-751. You now have both receipt numbers for I-485 and the one for the I-745 (second notice for biometrics). Give them to them on the call so they can see what you are referring to and ask them if sending a written request to withdraw your I-745 is necessary given that you have a permanent card (I-551) with no restriction and that doesn’t expire until 2020. If you end up sending the written withdrawal, include a copy of your I-551 green card an copies of your two NOAs.

By the way, on the USCIS page, you can check your cases just by entering the receipt numbers. You don’t need to have an account. That’s only if you would like to receive emails and/or text messages. If your old account doesn’t work, have you tried creating a new one?

Again, welcome back home!

-Copi



JERRY

COPI
Good morning, Thank you. I am planning to take a week off. I surely will enjoy time with family. Sadly my son a little bit shy on me when i got home. Probably because i was out to long.
I try to called the USCIS but can’t get thru. They said they are open 8AM-8PM. Not sure if they use daytime saving. I will give a try again today.
If they say it’s not necessary to send written withdraw, do you think i should send it anyway. Just make sure they have written evidence? Just a thought.
How it looks G C with restriction? Doesn’t it said permanent resident on top? Or just go by the length of the card it self (expiration date).
Here the receipt number i got from Vermont EAC1010750246. The first one i gave you must be from Texas. And this time seem going back to Initial Review mode.
I will let you know what they said as soon i get thru.
Have a blessed day!

Jerry



Sonia

Jerry and Copi,

Thanks for your help. I personally find this blog so helpeful.

You guys especially are very helpful.

I have more two questions that has occured me.

On part 7. Signature of I-751 form, should I put my signature and name and then on the second space in blanck I should put my husband name and his signature (he is american citizen and I got my Conditional GR trought him by mariage)?

I have cards, photos, tickets plane that we collected since we met each other in 2005. Should I also send these things or should I just send the documents from the time we got married to now?

The reason I asked this is because we were living in differents countries during the time we dated and got engaged. He and I made several trips to each other countries in order to spend more time together and also learn more about each other. We also wanted by taking these trips to meet each other families and friends.

I came to USA with a fiance visa because we wanted to do everything legally. Before I got my fiance visa I had already held couple of tourist visa which were renewed each time before the expiration date. I got my fiance visa from Vermont Service Center and the final process was completed in my country by the American Consulate.

This is the reason I wonder If I should also include this documents and evidences to make my case stronger or it is not necessary to send them.

Do you guys have any opinion about that?

Thanks and have a good week.

Sonia



Copi

Sonia,

since you are filing jointly, both your and husband’s names and signatures need to be included in part 7.

I, personally, didn’t send information before our marriage. We concentrated on gathering as much information that demonstrated we lived together. They seem to be more interested what has happened since the wedding. If you think sending the pre-marriage information would make your case stronger, you can always send it.

Hope that helps!

-Copi



Copi

Jerry,

I would still send something in writing so that you can prove you contacted them. (A phone call is not the best way to demonstrate.) Once you mail it, I think as soon as they see your card is for 10 years, they will tell you right away that you are not eligible for a I-751 and that should close your case. Send them the approval letter of the I-584, and your NOAs.

The status of your I-751 petition is the same for me: in initial review and with the same verbage. When is (was) your biometrics appointment scheduled for?

The conditional green card looks the same as your 10-year card. The only thing I see that might be different is that under Category it has a code CR6 (I think it stands for conditional resident). And then the card is only valid for 2 years when it expires.

About your son, a month it’s a long time for a baby to remember. Have you thought of having a webcamera with you and connect it to see both your wife and baby while you are on the road? I do that with my parents to keep in touch…and my son does recognize them when he seems them since our trip during Christmas. Just a thought.

Likewise, have a blessed day!

-Copi



JERRY

COPI
I just notice on the card i received it show category IR6.
I will post below what i found about USCIS codes for those who might need it. Seem SR6 & IR6 both stand for spouse of a U.S citizen except SR6 is conditional.
I appreciated with the advised, i have thought about it. Since i use the airtime card, I only have limited plan for it which i need for work purposes. Beside my son only good on banging on the computer at this moment (probably a baby boy thing). But we will give a try, seem skype will work.
I spoke with the representative, she said i can withdraw it in writing only. And they should send us a letter when the withdrawn granted as an evidence for us. Also she said, i don’t need to go to the biometric appointment since i already permanent resident. I hope this situation can help others who are in a similar case.
I wish you the best always. I hope you will get your card as schedule (fast). We all here surely appreciated your input about the case we were on. I will let you know what the lay out or time frame to withdraw this case.
To everyone i wish best of luck, hopefully you guys get process fast.

Jerry

C20
Child of an alien classified as C24 or C29 – conditional.

C21
Spouse of a lawful permanent resident alien (subject to country
limitations) – conditional.

C22
Stepchild (under 21 years of age) of a lawful permanent resident
alien (subject to country limitations) – conditional.

C23
Child of an alien classified as C21, C22, C26, or C27 (subject to
country limitations) – conditional.

C24
Unmarried son or daughter (21 years of age or older) who is a
stepchild of a lawful permanent resident alien (subject to country
limitations) – conditional.

C25
Child of an alien classified as C24 or C29 – conditional.

C26
Spouse of a lawful permanent resident alien (subject to country
limitations) – conditional.

C27
Stepchild (under 21 years of age) of a lawful permanent resident
alien (subject to country limitations) – conditional.

C28
Child of an alien classified as C21, C22, C26, or C27 (subject to
country limitations) – conditional.

C29
Unmarried son or daughter (21 years of age or older) who is a
stepchild of a lawful permanent resident alien (subject to country
limitations) – conditional.

C31
Married son or daughter who is a stepchild of a U.S. citizen – conditional.

C32
Spouse of an alien classified as C31 or C36 – conditional.

C33
Child of an alien classified as C31 or C36 – conditional.

C36
Married son or daughter who is a stepchild of a U.S. citizen – conditional.

C37
Spouse of an alien classified as C31 or C36 – conditional.

C38
Child of an alien classified as C31 or C36 – conditional.

CF1
Alien whose record of admission is created upon the conclusion of a
valid marriage contract after entering as a fiance or fiancee of a
U.S. citizen – conditional.

CF2
Minor stepchild of an alien classified as CF1 – conditional.

CR1
Spouse of a U.S. citizen – conditional.

CR2
Stepchild of a U.S. citizen – conditional.

CR6
Spouse of a U.S. citizen – conditional.

CR7
Stepchild of a U.S. citizen – conditional.

CX1
Spouse of a lawful permanent resident alien (exempt from country
limitations)- conditional.

CX2
Stepchild (under 21 years of age) of a lawful permanent resident
alien (exempt from country limitations) – conditional.

CX3
Child of an alien classified as CX2 or CX7 (exempt from country
limitations) – conditional.

CX6
Spouse of a lawful permanent resident alien (exempt from country
limitations)- conditional.

CX7
Stepchild (under 21 years of age) of a lawful permanent resident
alien (exempt from country limitations) – conditional.

CX8
Child of an alien classified as CX2 or CX7 (exempt from country
limitations) – conditional.

E10
Child of a priority worker classified as E11, E16, E12, E17, E13, or E18.

E11
Priority worker – alien with extraordinary ability.

E12
Priority worker – outstanding professor or researcher.

E13
Priority worker – certain multinational executive or manager.

E14
Spouse of a priority worker classified as E11, E16, E12, E17, E13, or E18.

E15
Child of a priority worker classified as E11, E16, E12, E17, E13, or E18.

E16
Priority worker – alien with extraordinary ability.

E17
Priority worker – outstanding professor or researcher.

E18
Priority worker – certain multinational executive or manager.

E19
Spouse of a priority worker classified as E11, E16, E12, E17, E13, or E18.

E21
Professional holding an advanced degree or of exceptional ability.

E22
Spouse of an alien classified as E21 or E26.

E23
Child of an alien classified as E21 or E26.

E26
Professional holding an advanced degree or of exceptional ability.

E27
Spouse of an alien classified as E21 or E26.

E28
Child of an alien classified as E21 or E26.

E30
Child of a skilled worker or professional classified as E31, E36, E32, or E37.

E31
Alien who is a skilled worker.

E32
Professional who holds a baccalaureate degree or who is a member of a profession.

E34
Spouse of a skilled worker or professional classified as E31, E36, E32, or E37.

E35
Child of a skilled worker or professional classified as E31, E36, E32, or E37.

E36
Alien who is a skilled worker.

E37
Professional who holds a baccalaureate degree or who is a member of a profession.

E39
Spouse of a skilled worker or professional classified as E31, E36, E32, or E37.

EW0
Child of an alien classified as EW3 or EW8.

EW3
Other worker performing unskilled labor, not of a temporary or
seasonal nature, for which qualified workers are not available in the
United States.

EW4
Spouse of an alien classified as EW3 or EW8.

EW5
Child of an alien classified as EW3 or EW8.

EW8
Other worker performing unskilled labor, not of a temporary or
seasonal nature, for which qualified workers are not available in the
United States.

EW9
Spouse of an alien classified as EW3 or EW8.

F11
Unmarried son or daughter of a U.S. citizen.

F12
Child of an alien classified as F11 or F16.

F16
Unmarried son or daughter of a U.S. citizen.

F17
Child of an alien classified as F11 or F16.

F20
Child of an alien classified as F24 or F29 (subject to country limitations).

F21
Spouse of a lawful permanent resident alien (subject to country limitations).

F22
Child (under 21 years of age) of a lawful permanent resident alien
(subject to country limitations).

F23
Child of an alien classified as F21 or F26 (subject to country limitations).

F24
Unmarried son or daughter (21 years of age or older) of a lawful
permanent resident alien (subject to country limitations).

F25
Child of an alien classified as F24 or F29 (subject to country limitations).

F26
Spouse of a lawful permanent resident alien (subject to country limitations).

F27
Child (under 21 years of age) of a lawful permanent resident alien
(subject to country limitations).

F28
Child of an alien classified as F21 or F26 (subject to country limitations).

F29
Unmarried son or daughter (21 years of age or older) of a lawful
permanent resident alien (subject to country limitations).

F31
Married son or daughter of a U.S. citizen.

F32
Spouse of an alien classified as F31 or F36.

F33
Child of an alien classified as F31 or F36.

F36
Married son or daughter of a U.S. citizen.

F37
Spouse of an alien classified as F31 or F36.

F38
Child of an alien classified as F31 or F36.

F41
Brother or sister of a U.S. citizen.

F42
Spouse of an alien classified as F41 or F46.

F43
Child of an alien classified as F41 or F46.

F46
Brother or sister of a U.S. citizen.

F47
Spouse of an alien classified as F41 or F46.

F48
Child of an alien classified as F41 or F46.

FX1
Spouse of a lawful permanent resident alien (exempt from country limitations).

FX2
Child (under 21 years of age) of a lawful permanent resident alien
(exempt from country limitations).

FX3
Child of an alien classified as FX1, FX2, FX7, or FX8 (exempt from
country limitations).

FX6
Spouse of a lawful permanent resident alien (exempt from country limitations).

FX7
Child (under 21 years of age) of a lawful permanent resident alien
(exempt from country limitations).

FX8
Child of an alien classified as FX1, FX2, FX7, or FX8 (exempt from
country limitations).

IF1
Alien whose record of admission is created upon the conclusion of a
valid marriage contract after entering as a fiance or fiancee of a
U.S. citizen.

IF2
Minor child of an alien classified as IF1.

IR0
Parent of a U.S. citizen.

IR1
Spouse of a U.S. citizen.

IR2
Child of a U.S. citizen.

IR3
Orphan adopted abroad by a U.S. citizen.

IR4
Orphan to be adopted by a U.S. citizen.

IR5
Parent of a U.S. citizen.

IR6
Spouse of a U.S. citizen.

IR7
Child of a U.S. citizen.

IR8
Orphan adopted abroad by a U.S. citizen.

IR9
Orphan to be adopted by a U.S. citizen.

NA3
Child born during the temporary visit abroad of a mother who is a
lawful permanent resident alien or national of the United States.

XE3
Child born subsequent to the issuance of a visa. Parent is
employment-based preference immigrant.

XF3
Child born subsequent to the issuance of a visa. Parent is a
family-based preference immigrant.

XR3
Child born subsequent to the issuance of a visa. Parent is an
immediate relative immigrant.



Copi

Jerry,

I read on another place that the number 6 (in CR6, SR6 IR6) indicates that the status was adjusted within the US (as opposed to outside). Since you are now a permanent resident with NO conditions, you are assigned IR6 since you are the spouse of US citizen and your status took place within the US.

I’m glad the USCIS representative gave your the same information that you need to withdraw the I-751 in writing. Just send in that information and you’re basically done. Also, don’t forget to add a request if they can reimburse you the I-751 fees. It doesn’t hurt to ask. :) I would suggest sending the following:
• cover letter to withdraw I-751 (reference the receipt number of your ASC appointment):
• Supporting information:
– copy of your I-551 (permanent card) both sides
– approval letter of your I-485
– NOAs for I-751 and ASC appointment

You might want to pay the $2 certified mail receipt so you can have proof someone signed for it. Also, make a copy for your records.

I’ll be still here on this blog until we hear from USCIS. Hopefully something within the next month or so.

Again, congratulations and start studying for the naturalization test! :)

-Copi



Copi

Jerry,

skype works well. I’ve tried that. I prefer using iChat on a mac/apple computer, but both applications serve the same purpose. My son also bangs on the computer…

If you have other questions, let me know.

-Copi



JERRY

COPI
I have a little bad luck. I do a favor for my broker to do some short run (3 hours) away to the east side of DC (Maryland area). It suppose to be round trip run but they were close when i got here. First they said 24 hours warehouse but when i got here they closed at 5PM. So i won’t be out of here until tomorrow morning. Most likely we won’t be able to mail it until Wed AM since my wife gonna be at work the time i got home tomorrow.
I forgot to mention, the lady earlier told me i can file N-400 within 3 years of my residency under my wife condition (spouse is a us citizen) but i need to wait for 5 years without that condition.
What’s the different anyway? Is that make me less Citizen if i filed it within 3 year time frame? I don’t think there is a Citizen conditionally, isn’t it? :)
Thanks for the input. I am gonna let my wife do the writing since my grammar usually messed up :) and will ask this $545 refunded. The lady told me earlier, since the time I-485 and I-751 application received so close to each other that’s why they go head process the application. The USCIS should refund the money. I hope they will give me a respond before my biometric appointment on April 1st.
Good night for now!

Jerry



Copi

Jerry,

that’s a shame you are stuck there when they told you the warehouse was open 24-hrs. (Maybe it’s a marketing thing.)

About your question, there is not such thing as conditional citizenship. Being married to a US citizen for at least 3 years as well as being permanent resident for at least 3 years accelerates the naturalization process. I actually think it’s good they have that exception. Otherwise you have to wait 2 additional years. :)

Once you send the information, you can track your case and see if they have taken action….hopefully, they will process the status there. If not, like the USCIS representative told you, they need to send you a notice. It’s part of their procedures.

Have a goodnite!

-Copi



Cha

Copi or Anyone who may know,

My fiance recieved I-797, Notice of Action but it only states that he needs to appear for his biometrics appointment on 4/9/2010. What does this mean? I thought he would have gotten a NOA stating that he would have gotten a one year extentsion and then biometrics appt will follow. Please let me know your input.–



Cha

Actually it says ASC Appointment Notice



Cha

anyone know much it will cost to do the biometric?



Copi

Cha,

There in no additional charge for the biometrics. You already paid for that when you mailed your I-745. It’s included in the $545 fees ($465 for form I-751 and $80 for biometric services).

Somehow the first notice got lost or might be delayed. You usually get the first NOA stating that they received your petition and to demonstrate you have up tp 1-year extension while your case is processed. You can call them and ask them if they can send you a copy, or they might tell you to come to a field office to get your passport stamped.

With the ASC receipt number you can track your case online and see what day it was received so you can provide that information.

Hope that helps!

-Copi



Copi

Hello everyone!

Our case status just got approved. We just received a text message and an email indicating that:

“On March 23, 2010, we ordered production of your new card. Please allow 30 days for your card to be mailed to you. If we need something from you we will contact you. If you move before you receive the card, call customer service at 1-800-375-5283.”

Here is our timeline:
• 02/08/2010 I-751 package mailed to CSC
• 02/09/2010 I-751 package received (entered into their system 02/10)
• 02/12/2010 check cleared (deposited 02/10)
• 02/16/2010 I-797C Notice of Action (NOA) received (prepared 02/10; mailed 02/11)
• 03/05/2010 2nd I-797C ASC Biometrics appointment received (prepared 02/26; mailed 03/02)
• 03/08/2010 Biometrics taken/done (appointment for 03/16, walk-in: 03/08)
• 03/09/2010 Date on case updated
• 03/23/2010 Case approved (card ordered)

Best wishes to all of you who are still waiting.

Goodnite!

-Copi



JERRY

COPI
First, Congratulation to you. It’s official now :)
I sent the withdrawn paper today with priority. I think it’s automatically have to be sign upon delivery. I also hope they will post it in the internet when they approve the withdrawn. Maybe you can tell me :) The package should get there by 3pm tomorrow.
Speaking of yesterday bad day, i complete the delivery and as soon i got out of the facility the truck broke down. Took me 3 hours to do emergency fixed on the side of the road to get me to the shop (to avoid road service which can cost my leg and neck lol). Now, all the extra run i did will go to the mechanic, not even include the time i spend nearly 2 days. Well, at least i was trying to make something it’s just not turn out the way i was expecting.
Ok, take a good care your self and hope you will get this card sometime this week or at least next week.
Good luck to every one.

Jerry



Copi

Jerry,

thank you! It was fast. I wasn’t expecting until end of March or in April. It took 6 weeks (42 days) since we mailed the I-751. CSC is moving way faster than VSC.

Sorry about the unfortunate mechanical problems you had. On the bright side you’ve been approved :) Now you can travel anywhere without worrying about your status.

Sure, I’ll keep on eye on your case and let you know if they post an update. They should at least change the status. But, they still need to send you something in writing.

Have a nice evening!

-Copi



Jacky

Hi Tara Willliams,

My name is Jacky, I have a question to you. Since your I-751 has been pending all this time so that means your green card is concurrently terminated after 2 years right? How were you able to work? If you read my comment here my case is very complicated and hopefully we can share information.

Thanks



Jacky

Hi Copi,

Can you please explain to me about Tara Williams situation? As what I understood her green card is been expired since her I-751 is pending all this time. The reason I am asking is that I do not want to stop working. I want to be able to go back to work after my baby’s delivery…We plan to get married but we dont know if its a good idea this time..

Thanks



Copi

Jacky,

We don’t know much about Tara’s case. You’ll need to see if she replies to your question. It could be that she continued getting stamps on her passport extending her conditional permanent residency or simply not working at all. As per your case, you are not authorized to work given that your extension got terminated the day USCIS denied your I-751. For your case, you really need to discuss/consult with a lawyer to make sure you don’t jeopardize any chances of becoming a permanent resident. I wish you the best to you and your baby, but it’s up to you to seek professional advice on your case.

Hope that helps and have a nice weekend.

-Copi



Sonia

Copi,

Congratulations for your 10 years “green card”.

I hope to see you still in this blog.

Sonia



Copi

Sonia,

thank you!

I’ll visit this blog as time permits.

-Copi



JERRY

COPI
I’m not sure you still visiting this site. I am planning to go back on the road tomorrow, but i was wondering if i still have to go for the biometric app which fall on the 1st. Per our conversation with the help line, she said i don’t need too since i already become a PR, but then i got no evidence to what she said. Just don’t want to screw this one up :) I thought maybe you have an advice for peace of mind :)
Anyway, i hope you enjoy your week… as i will going to travel across the states…again :(
Good luck to everyone who still waiting for their case still in process.

Jerry



Copi

Jerry,

yes, I’m still visiting this blog once in while. :)

You are no longer a conditional permanent resident. So proceeding with the I-751 to become a permanent resident is no longer logical. If you go for the biometrics could end up confusing the reviewers of your I-751 given that you wrote to have it withdrawn. At this point in time, my advice will be to wait until you hear back from USCIS. I’ll keep an eye on your case to see if they change the status. I’d advise that if your wife receives something from USCIS while you are on the road to open it right away because most likely it will be a decision of how USCIS decided to withdraw this case. Drive safely. :)

-Copi



JERRY

COPI
Thanks, That’s what i thought, now i have peace in mind :) Glad still have a job but sadly have to leave. Seem the I-485 & I-751 have different receipt number, i am not sure this is base on the field office (Texas & Vermont) This is the receipt number i got from Vermont EAC1010750246. Still in initial review of the I-751 we sent.
Thank you, i surely will drive safely

Jerry



Tara Hess

Jacky

My case was pending not denied therefore, I was able to legally work and support my self.

If you case is denied then you can’t work. If you do then you are breaking the law and the immigration service will find out. Also having a baby or getting married will not help you in you remaining in the USA. As suggested before it is best to leave the US and come back with a valid visa.

many people on this bolg have years of experence learning from each other. the best solution for you is to leave the US as soon as possible. remaining here will only add unauthorized time and will bar you from returning for 10 years. I don’t think it is worth satying here when you can return legally with a visa.

I wish you the best of luck



Copi

Jerry,

yes, the receipts numbers are receipts because they are processed in different locations. I’ll let you know if I see any updates.

Have a nice day!

-Copi



cynthia

Jerry and Copi,

Thanks for your responses. And congratulations to Copi :)

I got my ASC fingerprinting appointment letter last week, it took them exactly four weeks to mail it to me. And thank you for the correct info on checking case status online. No wonder it wasn’t showing anything.



Vicki

Hi,

My husband and I are gathering everything we need to send his I-751. Our question is about the instructions on the USCIS website. It says that 2 fingerprint cards should be sent and 2 passport photos. Are these still required or does the biometrics take the place of this.



Copi

Vicky,

if you are mailing within the US, you no longer need to send photos. The photo, signature, and fingerprints will be taken during your biometric appointment.

Hope that helps!

-Copi



Copi

Cynthia,

thank you!

When is your appointment? Also, if you have the time, you can call the ASC office and see if they let you do an early walk-in.

Have a nice afternoon/evening!

-Copi



Vicki

Thanks Copi,
I just finally found that in the instructions….i was reading it all wrong…..One more question….my husband has a US born son who is now living in PERU do we need to list him on our i-751? or is that just for children who are needing permanent residency.



Copi

Vicky,

I had the same question when we were completing the I-751 because we have a baby boy (US citizen). I read the instructions and found that section 5 is for children who are also conditional permanent residents. So, we didn’t include him. You can see in the section “Who May File Form I-751:
“…If you have dependent children who acquired conditional resident status concurrently with you and entered the United States within 90 days of your arrival, then include the names and A-Numbers of these children in Part 5 of this form in order to have their conditional status removed.”

By the way, when are you sending your I-751? Make sure it’s within 90 days prior to your 2-year anniversary as a conditional permanent resident. I sent it about two weeks earlier than that, and USCIS returned it back to me! Also, do you have a list of the evidence you are submitting? You can see mine posted on January 21st above.

Have a goodnite!

-Copi



Copi

Hi everyone!

today we received a text message and email that USCIS mailed the approval letter on March 27th. I just checked the mailbox and we received two letters: (1) approval letter, and (2) the permanent green card is for 10 years with a new category IR6 (Spouse of a US Citizen).

Don’t lose hope, you will receive yours…it just take some time.

Goodnite! :)

-COpi



Copi

Here is our timeline:
• 02/08/2010 I-751 package mailed to CSC
• 02/09/2010 I-751 package received (entered into their system 02/10)
• 02/12/2010 check cleared (deposited 02/10)
• 02/16/2010 1st I-797C – Notice of Action (NOA): I-751 received (prepared 02/10; mailed 02/11)
• 03/05/2010 2nd I-797C – NOA: ASC Biometrics appointment received (prepared 02/26; mailed 03/02)
• 03/08/2010 Biometrics taken/done (appointment for 03/16, walk-in: 03/08)
• 03/09/2010 Date on case updated
• 03/23/2010 Case approved (card ordered)
• 03/29/2010 3rd I-797C – NOA: Approval letter received (prepared: 03/23; mailed: 03/25)
• 03/29/2010 I-797D – Mailer: Card received (prepared: 03/24; mailed 03/26)

-Copi



JERRY

COPI
Congratulation copi!!!
I’m on my way to AZ. Will celebrate my birthday tomorrow somewhere in OK :)
I checked the tracking number it said delivered on 03/25 11:15. I hope they will give an answer soon.
I wish everyone good luck!

Jerry



Copi

Jerry,

Thank you!

Hopefully you will hear something officially by end of this week. I’ll let you know if you case status changes.

Have a happy birthday tomorrow!

-Copi



Vicki

Copi,

Congrats! Thanks for your information. We are sending everything next week. We are inside the 90 day period. We have all of our evidence of marriage and relationship ready to go. I only need to get our sworn affidavits and photos printed out and put onto paper so they are not loose. We are sending 2.5 yrs of bank statements joint of course, joint car and renters insurance, beneficiary papers with him listed as beneficiary. 3 yrs of bills, leases for same condo and monthly letters sent to us by our landlord in both of our names. Also 3 years of taxes filed jointly and 2.5 years of paystubs showing the same address information. Also i will send cards letters etc that have been sent to us by family friends etc. I have copied front and back of his green card and our marriage license also. My stack of papers is so large it will cost a fortune to send…I will keep you updated…hopefully it will go as smoothly as our uscis interview 2 yrs ago…..Can you believe it took all of 5 minutes and the IO was saying to my husband before we ever sat down that his green card would arrive in less than a month….We were really lucky to have such a nice IO and in South Florida at that…. If you think of anything else that i could send please let me know.



Copi

Vicki,

First of all, let me say you can send as much information as you would like to send. There are no limits. :) However, let me make some observations that can help make your case stronger.

As for bank and credit card statements, we just sent two statements (6 months apart). Honestly, I don’t know how much it really helps to send a big pile of the same piece of evidence. I think you can make the same point by sending statements every six months. (But, that is a decision you can make…it will just cost you a few more dollars to mail them.)

Overall, you information you are sending is fine. Just think if you have other types of information that can demonstrate you have been living together. We choose the strategy of sending small amounts of different types of information. For instance:
• Do you have health insurance? Have you taken any trips together? If you do, then you can print those email itineraries for a few trips.
• Do you have your cars registered under both names?
• Does your driver’s license and your husband’s show the same address? If yes, you can send that as another piece of evidence.

Hope that helps!

-Copi



Jacky

Hi Wendy,

I was wondering if your still in the blog. I just wanted to let you know that I am not working now. Hopefully it would help me. I am still praying I have a good chance of staying here in america for good. Knowing that you have the same case as me, it gives me hope that USCIS will give me another chance to refile or stay in the US like what happened to you. I have talked to an immigration lawyer and showed them the letter that immigration sent me saying I have provided enough evidences that the marriage was entered in good faith, however, it was a wrong waiver I filed since circumstances changed. He had passed away. The lawyer had told me that the most important thing is you entered the marriage in good faith based on the evidences I submitted to the immigration. I hope his right.

Thanks for your help and advices. I will try to keep in touch here in the blog.

Have a good day.



Wendy Tossal

I’m glad that you stopped working!!!

I don’t think that your lawyer has given you correct advice. There is no such thing as a wrong waiver. Your I-751 was denied due to the fact that the bono fide of the marriage was not legitimate. This means that with the evidence that you provided the USCIS determined that you failed to meet the requirements of the law.

I think that you should go to a few lawyers and see if they give you the same advice because it seems that your present lawyer is just looking to take some $$$$$ from you. This is quite common as most lawyers know they can make money in denied cases as these cases are very difficult to prove.

I don’t wish upset you but I know that you will not be successful with the USCIS as they don’t give you a second chance. Also once you are deported you can’t return back to the USA so your chances of staying is the USA are none. As I explained before, it much easier and simpler to return to your home country and then apply for visa and return to the USA. I know that this is probably a very difficult decision for you but it is the best solution. Also these types of visa don’t take long to process, the cost is much less and the best part is that you can be back in the USA on a legal basis i.e. you can work, travel etc..

Remaining in the US longer will only show cause that this was your main motive and will also add unauthorized time to your stay here. Even if your case goes to the immigration it is not likely that it will be granted. If you are deported then you can’t return on any other visa not even as a visitor, so why ruin your chances now, simply return back to your home country and return with a valid visa.



Vicki

Thanks Copi,

Yes i see your point…and yes i forgot to add that we have insurance together,same address on drivers license and many trips together with all of that info included! Will keep you informed.



Ricky

Hello everyone, i am back here again to share some of my experiences with the USCIS. As i posted last year sometimes around August/September my application was denied because we failed to appear for an interview that was scheduled, however we never received appointment letter…stress, stress, stress for months..i thought i was going to die, couldn’t stop reading the 2-3 letters of denial with the court date and everything was just overwhelming. So i decided to get a lawyer. He said that everything is fine, he can help me. On Jan 26 2010, i went to the IMM. Court..judge was ok, some old guy..lol, he terminated all the charges against me. Feb 22 we filled new I-751, they received it on March 2..The USCIS rejected it saying “you do not have to re-file because your case is pending”, and my lawyer is like how is this possible? Do they not know that we were on court, that they have never send appointment letter and never send out the BIOMETRICS appointment. Omg, i wanted to die again. So, he wrote them a letter saying that they are making a mistake and my first application was denied, court..and we want to file a new I-751. I guess they finally realized they messed up, accepted the new I-751, extended my status for one year on March 9, what a relief..on March 30 i did my biometrics..and now i am praying to God almighty to save me from the interview because i am already damaged from all the stress and i am just hopping for approval W/O interview. I submitted:photos, banks statements for 3 yrs, lease because we moved, electricity bills, gas bills, phone bills, everything with both our names, 3 yrs taxes..IDs and Drivers Licence’s with new address..and now for this year we did tax for 2009 and we got a cable on our name too..i am just hoping for the best. I believe that we should not go trough hardships and extremes they are putting us trough. May God help everybody here and don’t lose faith, that is the only thing that kept me up, this is just a life test and only the strongest ones will pass as long as you go with the requirements of the law. For my next visit i hope i will have the best news. God bless all of you..



mr_polite

Ricky, I’m SURE ur case will be approved this time!

God bless!



JERRY

RICKY
I like the positive attitude. Keep it up, I wish next time you will get the good news you are waiting for. I think the evidences you sent it’s good enough. Unfortunately sometimes we have to pay the price from unfortunate things even that not necessary our fault. Especially when the system is not in our favor.
Have a blessed weekend.

Jerry



Jacky

Hi Wendy,

Here is what the letter is saying:

This decision in reference of Form I-751, Petition o Remove the Conditions on Residence, filed by th conditional resident on November 13, 2009. The California Service Center has reviewed the petition and determined that the status of conditional permanent resident was attained on December 4, 2007.

In accordance with the provisions of 8 C.F.R. 216.5(a)(1), a conditional alien who is unable to meet the requirements under section 216 of the Immigration and Nationality Acto for a joint petition for removal of the conditional basis of his or her permanent resident status may file a Form I-751 if the alien request a waiver and was not at fault in failing t meet the filing requirements. A waiver was requested based on the termination of a good faith marriage through divorce or annulment.

Section 216(c)(4)(B) of the Act states, in part, that a waiver of the joint filing requirement may be granted if the alien spouse can establish that:

….the qualifying marriage was entered into in good faith by the alien spouse, but the qualifying marriage has been terminated (other than through death of the spouse) and the alien was not at fault in failing to meet the requirements of paragraph (1)….

Further, in Matter of Anderson, 20 I&N Dec. 888, it was determined that an alien spouse:

… was ineligible to apply for a waiver under section 216(c)(4)(B)[of the Act] because she remained married to her husband… if te respondent had become statutorily eligible to apply for the section 216 (c)(4)(B) waiver by virtue of changed circumstances, i.e, through the termination of her marriage…she could have sought a continuance from the immigration judge to pursue her alternative application with the Service.

There is a statutory requirement that the qualifying marriage be terminated prior to the filing of a waiver request under section 216(c)(4)(B) of the Act, in order to meet the prerequisites for the waiver filing. However, this requirement has been amended to give the conditional permanen resident an opportunity to qualify for the waiver. Under the current guidelines, if USCIS determines that the CPR failed to qualifry for the waiver request under section 216 (C)(4)(B) of the Act, a request of evidence will be issued giving the conditional permanent resident 84 days in which to qualify for the waiver. If the CPR does not respond to the request, or if the CPR’s response does not establish eligibiligy for the waiver, the petition will be denied.

The record indicates that the applicant did not submit evidence with the Form I-751 petition to establish that he or she qualifies for the waiver request under section 216(c)(4)(B) of the Act. As such, a request for evidence was issued on January 12, 2010, giving the applicant 84 days in which to submit evidence that the qualifying marriage has been terminated. On Januar 2, 2010, the applicant responded the Service’s request by submitting evidenc of the petitioner’s death, a certified registered death certificate. The petitioner died on November 7, 2009. The applicant has not submitted evidence that indicates he or she qualifies for the waiver request under section 216(c)(4)(B) of the Act.

The applicant may qualify for a waiver request because her spouse is deceased.

Therefore, the petition is denied and the conditional residence status is concurrently terminated. This decision may not be appealed. However, the conditional resident may request a review of this decision before an Immigration Judge pursuant to 8 C.F.R. 216.5(f). At that time, the conditional resident may request continuance of the removal proceedings until the applicant is eligible to file a waiver of the joint filing requirementt. Please note that a Notice of Appear before an Immigration Judge will be issued and forwarded to the applicant.

The conditional resident is hereby directed to immediately surrender their Alien Registration Card to their loal USCIS office

This letter shows that even the USCIS have said that the marriage was entered in good faith and I was not at fault in failing to meet the requirements.

Thanks



Jacky

Hi Ricky,

This is Jacky, I just posted about the letter I received from the USCIS. My case was denied since I could not provide a divorce decree because my spouse passed away due to respiratory failure. We have been separated but the divorce proceeding had stopped. I got the court dismissal but still they denied me although the marriage entered in good faith. Anyway, in addition to that I was wondering, after your visa expired….Did you continue working? I wish you the best in your case. I like how uplifting your positive attitude is.



Jacky

To Jerry and Copi,

Both of you guys have been so trying hard responding to this forum. I really appreciate it and thanks so much for your time. I keep praying everyday about my case that they would approve me. I really appreciate the support of this forum. It gives me hope on times that I get worry and sad about my situation. Congratulations to both of you. Hope you both still in this forum

Happy Easter to All!!!



JERRY

JACKY
Happy easter to you too and surely i wish you best of luck. Unfortunately i am not familiar with your case since i never experience it, so i can’t give you that much input. But try to collect informations as much as you can. Follow the procedure and don’t break the laws & regulations for your long term benefit. Again, good luck!!!
EVERYONE
I wish happy easter to all of us who celebrated (and also who don’t but have fun with it :) ) Have a blessed weekend!

Jerry



Copi

Hope everyone had a nice Easter weekend!

-Copi



Copi

Jacky,

thanks and you’re welcome. Get a second opinion from another lawyer to see if two tell you the same thing. Also, consider the other option of being away from the US for a few months. It’s way much better than 10 years. That seems like a viable option. i know it’s very difficult, but look at the bright side…you are starting from scratch. Best wishes!

-Copi



Copi

Ricky,

your information looks fine. I think this time it will go much more smoothly. :) Jerry had to wait for over 2 years just to find out what had happened with the judge approval…but his persistence has paid off.

-Copi



Copi

Jerry,

has your wife received anything at home from USCIS? Your case status has not changed yet. Hopefully, by this week.

I hope you are fine. Did you feel the earthquake that hit Mexico and was felt in CA and Arizona?

-Copi



JERRY

COPI
Not yet, as i hope so. I wanna get over this nerve wreck processes :)
Thanks, i am fine. I’m blessed :) i left AZ on Saturday. Now i’m on my way to east coast. I feel sorry for those who have to experience the quake. Which state are you live in?
Take care…i have to get back on the road and roll the wheels

Jerry



Copi

Jerry,

I know what you mean…soon it will be over! :)

We are in northern California. It was felt in LA, but not in the bay area, but there was another little one north of us (4. something). We are expecting our big one any day.

Drive safely!

-Copi



Wendy Tossal

Hi Jacky

I spoke with my Lawyer yesterday and e-mailed him the denied response that you got from the USCIS. As I’m on very good terms with him and he’s a i-751 specialist that guided me thorough my denied i-751.

This is what my Lawyer said.

1.Your case is very difficult to prove to the immigration judge as the USCIS has adjudicated the case properly according to law.

2.You were denied on 4 grounds according to the letter.

a.the legitimacy of the marriage it self as it was conditional and although you submitted evidence of the marriage indicating that it was in good faith, the USCIS did not find this sufficient as at that time you had already separated and were in divorce proceedings.

b.your waiver was filed correctly and this was done correctly. The reason that the uscis rejected this is because the statuary requirement according to law was not applicable to you at that time that you applied for a waiver. “if USCIS determines that the CPR failed to qualify for the waiver request under section 216 (C)(4)(B) of the Act, a request of evidence will be issued giving the conditional permanent resident 84 days in which to qualify for the waiver”

c.Your application was denied correctly because you failed to establish that grounds for the waiver “if CPR’s response does not establish eligibility for the waiver, the petition will be denied”

d.You did submit the evidence i.e., the death certificate the uscis acknowledges this “record indicates that the applicant did submit evidence but failed to establish that he or she qualifies for the waiver request under section 216(c)(4)(B) of the Act” but you the uscis acknowledges that “The applicant may have qualified for a waiver request because her spouse is deceased” however the uscis correctly denied the waiver request under section 216(c)(4)(B) of the Act as you do qualify for the waiver.

3.You are in a very difficult situation and your case is further complicated because you are now pregnant. My lawyer explained to me that anyone who is a conditional resident and even a permanent resident has to show good moral character. This is a requirement also for US citizenship. As you were already pregnant during the time of you separation even the immigration judge will not look favorably at this as your husband a US citizen died during this time.

So what are your options????

1.you can still argue your case in front of a immigration judge but my lawyer does not recommend this options because firstly, it is very costly and the lawyers fees for a qualified and competent lawyer is about $7,500 for as a retainer fee alone regardless if you succeed or not. The cost of going to trail will be more. Also the probability of winning or persuading the immigration judge to overturn the uscis decision is almost none, as the case has too many issues and the uscis did everything correctly according to law.

2.you can withdraw your case and apply on some other grounds to remain in the US like being a student or a investor, applying for H1 b category by being sponsored by a us employer.

3.you can return to your home country voluntarily before you are issued with a notice to appear for deportation proceeding in front of the immigration judge and apply for a marriage or fiancée visa. You must leave before your are issued with this notice to appear as after this you will get deported you will not be able to come back to the USA for 10 years. Also the uscis may permanently bar you from the USA or put your name on a uscis watch list.

4.you can remain here illegally (not a option that my lawyer or I would recommend) and wait and see if you can get a amnesty on the immigration reform of presidents Obama presidential campaign promise if this gets approved by congress and becomes law.



Wendy Tossal

Hi Jacky

I spoke with my Lawyer yesterday and e-mailed him the denied response that you got from the USCIS. As I’m on very good terms with him and he’s a i-751 specialist that guided me thorough my denied i-751.

This is what my Lawyer said.

1. Your case is very difficult to prove to the immigration judge as the USCIS has adjudicated the case properly according to law.
2. You were denied on 4 grounds according to the letter.
a. the legitimacy of the marriage it self as it was conditional and although you submitted evidence of the marriage indicating that it was in good faith, the USCIS did not find this sufficient as at that time you had already separated and were in divorce proceedings.
b. your waiver was filed correctly and this was done correctly. The reason that the uscis rejected this is because the statuary requirement according to law was not applicable to you at that time that you applied for a waiver. “if USCIS determines that the CPR failed to qualify for the waiver request under section 216 (C)(4)(B) of the Act, a request of evidence will be issued giving the conditional permanent resident 84 days in which to qualify for the waiver”
c. Your application was denied correctly because you failed to establish that grounds for the waiver “if CPR’s response does not establish eligibility for the waiver, the petition will be denied”
d. You did submit the evidence i.e., the death certificate the uscis acknowledges this “record indicates that the applicant did submit evidence but failed to establish that he or she qualifies for the waiver request under section 216(c)(4)(B) of the Act” but you the uscis acknowledges that “The applicant may have qualified for a waiver request because her spouse is deceased” however the uscis correctly denied the waiver request under section 216(c)(4)(B) of the Act as you do qualify for the waiver but did not meet the eligibility for the requirements.
3. You are in a very difficult situation and your case is further complicated because you are now pregnant. My lawyer explained to me that anyone who is a conditional resident and even a permanent resident has to show good moral character. This is a requirement also for US citizenship. As you were already pregnant during the time of you separation even the immigration judge will not look favorably at this as your husband a US citizen died during this time.

So what are your options????

1. you can still argue your case in front of a immigration judge but my lawyer does not recommend this options because firstly, it is very costly and the lawyers fees for a qualified and competent lawyer is about $7,500 for a retainer fee alone regardless if you succeed or not. The cost of going to trail will be more. Also the probability of winning or persuading the immigration judge to overturn the uscis decision is almost none, as the case has too many issues and the uscis did everything correctly according to law.
2. you can withdraw your case and apply on some other grounds to remain in the US like being a student or a investor, applying for H1 b category by being sponsored by a us employer.
3. you can return to your home country voluntarily before you are issued with a notice to appear for deportation proceeding in front of the immigration judge and apply for a marriage or fiancée visa. You must leave before your are issued with this notice to appear as after this you will get deported you will not be able to come back to the USA for 10 years. Also the uscis may permanently bar you from the USA or put your name on a uscis watch list.
4. you can remain here illegally (not a option that my lawyer or I would recommend) and wait and see if you can get a amnesty on the immigration reform of presidents Obama presidential campaign promise if this gets approved by congress and becomes law.



Jacky

Dear Wendy,

Thank you so much for the responds. I have some questions:

How to withdraw my case?

How to apply for a student visa or for an investor and how much money will I have to put to be an investor (estimate required amount)? I do have an investment at my job and it will remain in there. Its a 401K, I dont know if its related.

Is it still possible to withdraw my case although USCIS had denied me?

If i get a student visa, can I still work?

Thanks



JERRY

COPI
Wow, is that bad all the way to SF Area? I heard about the big one but i hope the news turn out wrong. So you guys plan to move to another state then? I have seen so many disaster since i usually transported FEMA orders when disaster struck, definitely don’t want to remember any of them. Well, stay safe and keep in touch if you can.
JACKY
I think when the case denied it mean it’s their final decision. Final decision can’t be withdraw but probably appeal able in higher court.
Adjustment status base on your status as an Investor usually need chunk of money. That’s prove you that you will bring revenue to the country and provide job to the community. I think almost like entrepreneur. Someone i know of he present somewhere around $200K (he own a mechanic shop)
401K is a retirement investment,individual investment with your employer help by matching your fund (i think). Except if you have amount of assets in the company probably you can use that as a good case.
I hope that helps!
Have a good night everyone.

Jerry



JERRY

JACKY
I think student it’s consider as a foreign student. Not eligible to work in the country he/she is studying legally (maybe under-table job,yes) I think they will allow you to work at campus in amount of hours allowed by law (rules and regulations)
If you ever over stayed in US your request for student visa will be deny. You can apply for student visa if your I-94 still valid. (changing status from visitor to student)
I know this very frustrated for you, probably you should use your best judgment base on the facts not feelings. That way you won’t loose further benefit down the road.
Hope that helps!

Jerry



kewlbeemer

Hello Guys,
Let me first say, this website is so helpful in getting the information.
The question I’m about to post is different in nature. I missed my deadline to apply for I-751, removal of conditions.
When I did apply 30 days later, VSC sent my materials back with another letter, saying I should petition or write explanining why I missed the deadline.

Can anyone shed some light on this please. Should I hire a lawyer or do it myself?

Thanks



Copi

Jacky,

unfortunately I agree with Jerry. I don’t think you would qualify for option 2 – as an investor or student visa, and it be difficult to find a employer to sponsored you for a H1B visa.

All the other options Wendy listed have risks as well and you need to decide which one to pursue. In my opinion, the one that is more painful seems to be the most viable, and that is option 3 – leave the US and apply for a fiance visa and you will be back in a few months and re-start the process again. Your case got more complicated because you were involved with someone else besides your spouse who passed away and the fact that you are expecting a child. So, option 1 – seems that it will be difficult to convince the judge that your marriage was entered in good faith and that you would like him/her to allow you to file for a waiver based on death. It’s not impossible, but it’s risky given your current situation. Option 4 – remaining illegally in the US doesn’t help you much because you can’t work and you run the risk of deportation.

I know it’s a very difficult decision you have to make…but you are running out of time… you could receive the notice to appear in front of the immigration judge any day now (or it could take a few more months…who knows). I’m afraid that your current strategy of remaining in the US might end up hurting you in the long run, and you will not be able to live and work in this country legally for a very long time or if not for ever.

I wish you the best….but keep in mind that you are the only one who has the power to decide what to do in your best interest. Please talk to your significant other and decide together the next step soon.

Have a goodnite!

-Copi



Copi

Kewlbeemer,

the USCIS director where you file has the discretion to allow you to file late if you have a convincing reason why you didn’t file on time. These are the instructions of what you need to do:

“3. Effect of not filing. If this petition is not filed, you will automatically lose your permanent resident status as of the second anniversary of the date on which you were granted conditional status.

You will then become removable from the United States. If your failure to file was through no fault of your own, you may file your petition late with a written explanation and request that USCIS excuse the late filing. Failure to file before the expiration date may be excused if you demonstrate when you submit the application that the delay was due to extraordinary circumstances beyond your control, and that the length of the delay was reasonable.”

I’ve seen some people in this cases hiring a lawyer. They have more experience how to prepare the explanation, but there are no guarantees…so, you might decide to write yourself and save some money.

Again, it really depends on the reason why you didn’t file when required. What happened? Did you forget? You didn’t receive the USCIS reminder?

Hope that helps!

-Copi



Copi

Jerry,

California is in earthquake territory. You know pretty much any area has something risky. The East coast get hit with hurricanes, the midwest with tornado, and the west coast with earthquakes. So, for now, we are not planning on moving, just be prepared.

Goodnite!

-Copi



help plz

Hi, we filed the I-751, got the 1 yr extension receipt, and in oct of 09, we took the biometrics, which will now expire in 2 weeks!!! we called, and they said keep waiting. originally, we sent the I-751 to remove conditions about 2 weeks before we were supposed to, and they sent everything back, so we submitted it again on time. they said the case was not denied cause it was only a matter of 2 weeks b4 the 90 day thing, but with the biometrics expiring now and all, we dont know what to think. any advice??? good luck to all :) and does anyone know what happens after the biometrics expire while waiting for the interview or the card in the mail or whatever?



Wendy Tossal

Hi Jacky,

You can withdraw your denied i-751 from the USA or from abroad this doesn’t really matter that much as there are no time restrictions. What is most important is that you either leave USA or apply under a different status before you get the notice to appear for deportation preceding. You can receive the notice at anytime and then it is too late. This means that the uscis has already initiated proceeding against you and your name will then be permanently on the their system for removal. This will prevent you from re-applying for any visa, change of status or returning to the USA for 10 years.

If you want to change the status and meet the eligibility requirement for that category then you must do so very quickly. Time is very important here and the clock has already started clicking. Please bear in mind that if you qualify for and change status and it is still pending with the uscis during which time you receive your notice to appear before the immigration judge, when the uscis is either making a decision or approves the application then all pending or approved application will also be terminated or revoked at the same time. Any approved application will also be terminated and revoked because your deportation proceeding comes first before any other consideration. In all change of status forms you have to write you’re “A-file number” and this how the uscis keeps track of all application that a individual makes.

Also regarding withdrawing your denied i-751 you can do this by sending a formal letter withdrawing your case but you can only withdraw if you are going to leave the USA. By withdrawing you will stop the uscis preparing a case against you with their legal department. Also the benefit of this is that once you withdraw your case you are voluntarily declaring to leave the USA. Legally the uscis then can’t stop you from re-applying for a visa or from returning to the USA at a later time. Most people with complicated denied application leave voluntarily so that they can apply from abroad to return to the USA without any restrictions.

If you decide to change status then these are your options:-

For a student status, you would have to enroll in college or any accredited academic institution that the uscis recognizes and approves (the uscis does not approve all academic institutions for foreign nationals who wish to study in the USA). You must be accepted and enrolled and have paid the tuition fees, application fees, course fess etc.. you also need a letter from the institution describing the course, length of study and your acceptability on the course in addition to which you will also have to prove to the uscis why you wish to study or be a student i.e., you reasons for taking these classes?? Also you would need to apply for a work permit to work legally but the uscis only approves this for economic hardship and limits the type of jobs you can do and number of hours you can work.

For investor status you need to invest in the USA up to $1,000,000 (one million us dollars) that will benefit the US economy and create us jobs in a under developed area or locality. Most people simply don’t have this kind of money to even consider this option.

H1B status is when a USA employer sponsors a foreign worker to temporally carryout work in a field that he/she is not able to fill with qualified us citizens. The types of work in this status are for holders of advanced degrees and labor shortages, such as doctors, nurses, nuclear scientist, computer programmers etc..the us employer would first need to prove to the uscis that no qualified us citizen are available to take this job before giving it to a foreign worker. There are very strict rule and regulation for this category.

Return to your country of origin and apply for marriage or fiancée visa (or any other visa like visitor, student, etc). Probably the best option given your situation but only if you decided to leave the USA before you are issued with a notice to appear before an immigration judge. If you receive the notice to appear for hearing letter and you are still in the USA then it is too late, you will get deported and this carries a automatic bar from re-entering the USA for 10years. There are no appeals from this decision.

I truly wish that there was a better way for you to remain in the USA that is why I asked my own lawyer for his professional legal advice. I hope you will make the best decision that you feel is right for you. I wish you and your baby the best for future, may god bless you with happiness and prosperity for the future.



Ricky

Thank you everyone for your support, today is 8 days since i did my biometrics. Since that day i went every day on USCIS.GOV to check if my status is updated, i know its still early but at this point i am getting nervous.. I cannot wait for this nightmare to be over..good luck to everybody, God will provide for us, i very much believe so!!!!



Monica

Hello everyone- We have filed our join I-751 to remove the conditions from my GC:
02/05/2010 I-751 sent to VT
02/08/2010 packed received
02/09/2010 check cleared
02/13/210 received NOA (I-797C)
03/01/2010 ASC Appointment Notice (dated 2/26/2010)
03/15/2010 ASC Appointment

Two weeks ago (Saturday) I’ve received a strange phone call from someone (with a Jamaican accent) claiming to call from ‘immigration department’ – the person was asking if I’m such and such but it wasn’t my name. Then asked if I’m a wife of -my husband’s name- and I said ‘yes’ and introduced myself- He just said ‘aha aha’ and hung up on me. My husband and his brother received missed calls from the same number around the same time (no messages left).. it was (800)375-5283. The same (caller and time) ‘Immigration department’ called my husband’s cousin and asked about hubby and ‘another person’ (we never heard of).
We were all thinking that it might be some kind of scheme:
- we never provided in our applications my husband’s brother and cousin info.
-the phone call was on Saturday??
- caller didn’t ask about me (I’m the one who is applying for GC)
-(800)375-5283 National Customer Service Center – is closed on Sat and I don’t think they are able to make outgoing calls from toll free number – plus today anyone can call from internet and mask its caller ID – at least that what my husband is saying.
I don’t know what to think? Anyone experienced something like this?



Copi

Helo Plz,

The USCIS will let you know if you need to get new biometrics taken again. However, given the delays they had in the past and that they are having again especially in Vermont, most likely they will not ask you for that. Just wait for them to tell you anything…otherwise, I wouldn’t worry right now.

-Copi



Copi

Ricky,

Where did you file at Vermont (VSC) or California (CSC)? Anyway, it’s still too early. They need to get the results from the FBI and all those places they are checking to see if there is something in your background. For us, we filed in CSC, and it still took more than two weeks to find out something. For Vermont, it’s taking way much longer. You have already waited a long time…so, don’t put too much stress on yourself. You’ll be fine this time.

Hope that helps!

-Copi



Copi

Monica,

I highly doubt that it was someone from USCIS. It seems more of a scheme…someone trying to get more information out of you maybe for identity theft purposes. The USCIS is a serious organization and their employees need to identify themselves professionally. Also if you noticed, they do most things in writing, and given their backload with so many applications, I’m sure they have no time to play investigator on the phone. That’s why they will ask you to come in for an interview in person. I’d recommend not to give out personal information unless the person identifies himself/herself and clearly states why they are calling you.

Hope that helps!

-Copi



Monica

Thanks Copi- I hope that what it was- I also didn’t have any LUD’s on my case since 3/16 (day after biometrics)



Copi

Monica,

yes, the last LUD we had on our case was the day after the biometrics, too. After that it didn’t change until it was approved. We also noticed that our previous I-485 had a LUD about a week later. I think they were probably referencing that case before approval.

Best of luck and soon you will be done!

-Copi



JERRY

COPI
I am leaving east coast, schedule to be in west coast by Monday. I hope any bad news still on hold :) You are right, seem ain’t no safe place really. I just try to have peace of mind at all the time if i can.
There is no news from USCIS yet, planning to send another letter when i get home next weekend.

KEWLBEEMER
Seem lawyer not necessary, most likely he/she just write what you about to say which you can write your self. But, job security still important in this country…directly/indirectly they (judge,immigration official) prepared if we use the attorney services (this is only personal opinion base on personal experience (don’t want to get detail with this)). If you can effort one maybe it will be wise to use one also looking at your case late filing very much because you don’t pay attention to it. I told someone before where have similar issues with you,reason because didn’t bring/carry the card around(technically you have too) and didn’t pay attention to the expiration date until you realize when…….on ….date. Button line give your best excuse which make sense and plea for chance to correcting your mistake and follow the procedure to file I-751. If you end up hire a lawyer make sure he send you paper work in express so you can a quick respond.
Hope that helps!

Good luck everyone and Good night!!!

Jerry



Ricky

Copi,

Thanks a lot for your support, i know its still early..but i know it takes from 2-4 weeks to hear from them after you submit the BIOs, anyway i filed with California cuz i am from Chicago, so lets hope they contact me soon. I am kinda worried cuz my lawyer said that there might be an interview because they denied my first application, do you know how big are chances that we might have to go in for another interview, Thank you Copi, you are awesome!!



Copi

Jerry,

Wow, you for from one coast to another coast in a matter of days! I keep monitoring your case. Hopefully this will be all over.

Drive safely!

-Copi



Copi

Ricky,

you’re fine. It just take time. Your go another 1-year extension on March 9th, so, you are more of a March filer. CSC is still working on the February cases from other blogs I have been tracking where I haven’t seen yet someone who got their first NOA in March been approved. The fact that you had your biometrics doesn’t always they are ready to make a decision on your case.

About the interview, in theory, everybody who files an I-751 is supposed to have an interview. The USCIS director upon reviewing the initial review information decides whether or not to waive the interview. In the case seems to have no problems, most of the time they do that. However, even some of those folks get selected for an interview. In your case, since it has been denied, it has been assigned a fraud risk level which means that it might be selected for an interview. I’d advise not to be too stress out too much about being selected for an interview. If they do, it’s basically to get a sense if your marriage was enter in good faith. Instead, start preparing your information as if there were going to call you. That way you would be much better prepared and thus feel more comfortable about the interview.

Hope that helps!

-Copi



Copi

Hello everyone!

Have a nice weekend! If any of you is getting approved, please post updates.

-Copi



Monica

Cope,
there is no LUD on our I-485 – did you have it after biometrics appt?



Copi

Monica,

yes, I logged on to our account in USCIS and noticed that the I-751 had a LUD the day after the biometrics, and then the previous I-485 (status adjustment) and I-765 (employment authorization) had a LUD on 3/13, 5 days after the biometrics. Then, there were no more updates on the I-751 until the approval on 3/23, and then when the card and approval letter were mailed on 3/30.

Hope that helps!

-Copi



Vicki

Hi Copi,

I hear people saying make sure you are sending a complete set to USCIS. What does that mean? I am sending everything the intructions asked for and then some.



Copi