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	<title>Comments on: Responses to &#8220;How to invest for 3-7 years out&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Ricemutt</title>
		<link>http://www.experiglot.com/2006/07/07/responses-to-how-to-invest-for-3-7-years-out/comment-page-1/#comment-971</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricemutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 19:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mark,

Thanks very much for your comments. I can&#039;t speak for others, but I suppose the most prevalent reasons people avoid a neutral (or hedge fund, if you will) approach is the perception that it&#039;s much riskier, and/or they don&#039;t know what one is or how to set one up. Perhaps this perception is wrong, and we&#039;ve been somewhat brainwashed by conventional wisdom sold to us by mainstream money managers, but that&#039;s the general consensus.

I visited your site, and the service your selling is very unusual in that, assuming it works as you say, your target audience would appear to be fairly wealthy individuals who are interested in actively managing their porftolio.

My guess is that if personal finance blogs out there are any good indication, most average Americans don&#039;t have the kind of money, discipline, or understanding to invest the way you recommend. I&#039;ve known many people who&#039;ve shorted or have used margin to buy stocks only to find themselves in deep trouble because they had no idea what they were doing. And the ones who do have money tend to either want something passive that &quot;costs&quot; nothing, or they&#039;re willing to pay someone to take care of it for them rather than take an active approach (or even learn about investing), like what you&#039;re offering. 

Although I admit I&#039;m still very much a student when it comes to investing, I&#039;ll give you my experience, for what it&#039;s worth. The key words in your question are &quot;a well-chosen portfolio&quot;. Such a thing is tough to find. It takes me forever to find any stocks in which to take simple, long positions, and I&#039;ve never shorted a stock with real money. In my experience, even theoretical neutral portfolios don&#039;t always perform well. For example, in April 2003, I took a class in which our group chose KKD at a price of ~34 as a candidate that was ripe for a fall: it was obviously overvalued, had questionable accounting, unsustainable implied growth that sell-side analysts were rah-rahhing expectantly to the market, etc. 

Yet KKD continued to surge to 50 before finally, a year later, desending back to 34 and continuing its fall. Maybe this is a reasonable time to wait for a market correction, but as an average individual investor, my understanding (perhaps incorrect) is that there are both time and financial limitations and difficulties to shorting a stock. 

Had I really shorted the stock with my own cash, wouldn&#039;t I have had to cover my short once KKD surged to 50? And that would have been quite costly to do. Finally, it&#039;s easy to look back now and see that KKD ended up being a decent short play, but at the time, and with real money, I&#039;m sure it would have been nervewracking, to say the least. To be sure, the toughest thing about developing a good portfolio (neutral or otherwise) is successfully analyzing and choosing the right stocks on a consistent basis.

I admit I was very skeptical of your method because I&#039;m always wary of anyone who claims that a strategy will work well regardless of how the market moves. On the other hand, I have no doubt you&#039;re much better at picking stocks than I am. I also read through your newsletter and appreciate that you highlight that your methodology isn&#039;t guaranteed to be successful all the time, and that you have  had a 3rd party, isfa, confirm your performance. I also agree with many of your statements and am a fan of techniques in general that eschew conventional thinking. As such, I&#039;m willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that your strategy has worked for you. Still, I have a bit of a hard time swallowing a $1495 per year fee for the advice. At the recommended $50K investment amount, that&#039;s nearly 3% in fees. I&#039;m not saying your advice isn&#039;t worth it, but I&#039;m just not yet convinced, having only read about your methods on a website.

(By the way, may I ask why do you choose to benchmark your portfolio&#039;s performance against the S&amp;P 500? If your case studies are a good indication, most of your picks are small-cap stocks. Why not benchmark against the Russell 2000, which you still outperformed?)

Thanks again for sharing your thoughts and questions!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark,</p>
<p>Thanks very much for your comments. I can&#8217;t speak for others, but I suppose the most prevalent reasons people avoid a neutral (or hedge fund, if you will) approach is the perception that it&#8217;s much riskier, and/or they don&#8217;t know what one is or how to set one up. Perhaps this perception is wrong, and we&#8217;ve been somewhat brainwashed by conventional wisdom sold to us by mainstream money managers, but that&#8217;s the general consensus.</p>
<p>I visited your site, and the service your selling is very unusual in that, assuming it works as you say, your target audience would appear to be fairly wealthy individuals who are interested in actively managing their porftolio.</p>
<p>My guess is that if personal finance blogs out there are any good indication, most average Americans don&#8217;t have the kind of money, discipline, or understanding to invest the way you recommend. I&#8217;ve known many people who&#8217;ve shorted or have used margin to buy stocks only to find themselves in deep trouble because they had no idea what they were doing. And the ones who do have money tend to either want something passive that &#8220;costs&#8221; nothing, or they&#8217;re willing to pay someone to take care of it for them rather than take an active approach (or even learn about investing), like what you&#8217;re offering. </p>
<p>Although I admit I&#8217;m still very much a student when it comes to investing, I&#8217;ll give you my experience, for what it&#8217;s worth. The key words in your question are &#8220;a well-chosen portfolio&#8221;. Such a thing is tough to find. It takes me forever to find any stocks in which to take simple, long positions, and I&#8217;ve never shorted a stock with real money. In my experience, even theoretical neutral portfolios don&#8217;t always perform well. For example, in April 2003, I took a class in which our group chose KKD at a price of ~34 as a candidate that was ripe for a fall: it was obviously overvalued, had questionable accounting, unsustainable implied growth that sell-side analysts were rah-rahhing expectantly to the market, etc. </p>
<p>Yet KKD continued to surge to 50 before finally, a year later, desending back to 34 and continuing its fall. Maybe this is a reasonable time to wait for a market correction, but as an average individual investor, my understanding (perhaps incorrect) is that there are both time and financial limitations and difficulties to shorting a stock. </p>
<p>Had I really shorted the stock with my own cash, wouldn&#8217;t I have had to cover my short once KKD surged to 50? And that would have been quite costly to do. Finally, it&#8217;s easy to look back now and see that KKD ended up being a decent short play, but at the time, and with real money, I&#8217;m sure it would have been nervewracking, to say the least. To be sure, the toughest thing about developing a good portfolio (neutral or otherwise) is successfully analyzing and choosing the right stocks on a consistent basis.</p>
<p>I admit I was very skeptical of your method because I&#8217;m always wary of anyone who claims that a strategy will work well regardless of how the market moves. On the other hand, I have no doubt you&#8217;re much better at picking stocks than I am. I also read through your newsletter and appreciate that you highlight that your methodology isn&#8217;t guaranteed to be successful all the time, and that you have  had a 3rd party, isfa, confirm your performance. I also agree with many of your statements and am a fan of techniques in general that eschew conventional thinking. As such, I&#8217;m willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that your strategy has worked for you. Still, I have a bit of a hard time swallowing a $1495 per year fee for the advice. At the recommended $50K investment amount, that&#8217;s nearly 3% in fees. I&#8217;m not saying your advice isn&#8217;t worth it, but I&#8217;m just not yet convinced, having only read about your methods on a website.</p>
<p>(By the way, may I ask why do you choose to benchmark your portfolio&#8217;s performance against the S&#038;P 500? If your case studies are a good indication, most of your picks are small-cap stocks. Why not benchmark against the Russell 2000, which you still outperformed?)</p>
<p>Thanks again for sharing your thoughts and questions!</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Mayor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Mayor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 15:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not neutral investing? 

I have found that a well-chosen portfolio, with half long good stocks and the other half short awful stocks, is even less volatile than most bonds. 

The average annual performance is 15-20% per year (for me since &#039;99).

What&#039;s better, the performance comes whatever the stock market does. Whether it crashes, goes sideways or up is no concern.

Why do so few people take a similar approach?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not neutral investing? </p>
<p>I have found that a well-chosen portfolio, with half long good stocks and the other half short awful stocks, is even less volatile than most bonds. </p>
<p>The average annual performance is 15-20% per year (for me since &#8217;99).</p>
<p>What&#8217;s better, the performance comes whatever the stock market does. Whether it crashes, goes sideways or up is no concern.</p>
<p>Why do so few people take a similar approach?</p>
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